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Best for me is probably the Christian VS Yoshi Tatsu ECW title match that was on TV. Nothing stands out as particularly bad.

When the board was down, there was a website that lasted about 2 days (then they pussied out) called exvegans.com that was designed to public ally shame vegans who went back to eating meat. Bryan was on it. Pretty damn hilarious.www.animalliberationfrontline.com/how-i-baited-the-media-into-showing-slaughterhouse-footage-to-over-200000-people/A guy involved with the site says it was a publicity stunt.

Nope.It's usually the case. Most of the time the ref makes sure the champion is on his feet before ringing the bell. There have been exceptions.Other than that, it's like a regular title match, so the champ could theoretically escape with a count-out or DQ loss.

If you buy it or get it off NetFlix, make sure you have almost a whole day to watch it. The main doc is 4 hours, and the bonus disc has a ton of stuff, including interview pieces that got cut out of the main portion. The drama on the set of DREAM MASTER is the best part of the cut stuff.

I almost want to see Cena suffer a long-term or career-ending injury. Not because I hate him, but seeing what WWE would do without him as a crutch would be interesting.

I particularly like SCOTLAND YARD & KILLER BUNNIES.

Have you ever seen the NOES doc NEVER SLEEP AGAIN? I know I've pimped it recently (and even started another thread because of it), but I seriously cannot recommend it highly enough to you if you haven't.

Also, thinking about you iconagraphy point, it is very valid, and I think there's two main reasons for it. 1.) Freddy, Jason, Michael, and the like are visually more memorable than John Kramer. Freddy is a crispy-fried motherfucker with a claw glove. Jason & Michael are generally physically imposing dudes that are indestructable and have a signature mask. John Kramer is a shriveled-up cancer patient who is rarely physically present during the kills. I would think, for people who aren't fans of the movies, that the garbled voice on the tapes and possibly the "Billy" doll are more easily identifiable than Jigsaw himself. 2.) For our generation, watching some of these was part of our transition from childhood to being a teenager. If you're like me, you had older relatives that loved putting one of these on and seeing how bad little you would get fucked up. As our generation gets older and introduces their children to the genre, I can see parents getting talked into letting their pre-teen try out one of the slasher flicks we grew up on. No sane parent is letting their kid watch SAW until probably at least their mid-teens. EDIT: 3.) There's also marketing. Those 80s slasher series, as much as the studios tried to deny it, definitely were marketed towards children (there were Freddy pajamas for fuck's sake). If Lion's Gate tried putting out a Jigsaw lunch box, they'd get ripped to shreds by parents groups and unsympathetic media outlets. Point being, I knew who Freddy, Jason, Michael, & Chucky were long before actually watching one of their movies.

For me, the best parts of watching a SAW movie are 1.) trying to put the pieces together not just for that invidiual movie, but where everything fits in the overall story (this is especially true for the later ones) and 2.) trying to put myself in the characters' place and think about how/what I'd do (anwer: most of the time, I'd be completely fucked). I like the NOES series myself for the most part, but after DREAM WARRIORS they stopped even pretending to try to be scary until Craven came back for the horrifically underrated NEW NIGHTMARE.

That was the rumor going around at the time. I like the idea they went with, if not the execution.

Since there's been quite a bit of FRIDAY THE 13TH & HALLOWEEN talk in other threads plus I am a total franchise whore, I figured I'd give these types of films their own thread. CONTROVERSIAL STATEMENT: IMO, the SAW franchise is the best top-to-bottom of all the major franchises. The only low-light is V, and is doesn't hit the lows that sequels in other franchises did. I like that they took steps to make it all a single, follow-able (although non-linear) narrative, and were smart enough to realize that a feeble cancer patient couldn't do it all on his own. What I didn't like was the lack of any semblance of a happy ending in any of the movies, not enough people calling "bullshit" on Jigsaw (Amanda goes on a rant before she dies, Hoffman is more direct during a flashback in VI to the setting up of "The Rack" from III) and I would have liked more exploration of his network being a lot bigger than originally shown, which was teased a bit, especially before the release of THE FINAL CHAPTER. I've been going through the HELLRAISER series via netflix, and most of them haven't been particularly memorable. Same with the RESIDENT EVIL series. I'm usually good at remembering plotlines and what takes place in what movie, but I couldn't tell you which RE movie was which since they're so interchangable. I've heard good things about the PHANTASM series, but was bored by the original. I haven't checked out any of the CANDYMANs yet. I think there's a lot to be mined here, like best & worst series, scenes, & sequels.

Adam Schefter @AdamSchefter 16s Broncos CB Dominique Rodgers-Cromartie carted off field with leg injury.

Sandow can't cash in for a WWE title match. It has to be for the World title.

NFL is reportedly changing the Pro Bowl from AFC VS NFC to two captains essentially drafting fantasy teams that then play each other. This year's captains will be Jerry Rice & Deion Sanders.

I would say by this point, the only reason anyone hasn't seen THE DARK KNIGHT is because they don't want to.

This board used to love RoH. There were individual threads for each show for quite a while.

I was stunned to actually see some Bills coverage today. Aside from Heath Evans obviously not knowing anything about the team, it was surprisingly decent.

I had completely forgotten about SIBERIA until seeing I had it on my DVR. This week's episode was interesting. and I wonder what former WWE writers are on the staff, given the direction the show is going in. I'm also wondering when Joss Wheedon took over as show runner.

Yes, RoH as Kevin Kelly still. He's decent, but feels the need to work certain catch phrases (the obvious being SOARING...ANNNND SCORING) into seemingly every show. Cole has slightly improved (one would hope so after what, 15 years?) and is far better than when he was a heel, but he can still make a great match almost seem boring because he's a terrible actor and can't feign enthusiasm at all. The less "jokes" Lawler tells, usually the better off he is. JBL is best when he's reacting to something stupid Cole said. I am glad they've moved away from the constantly bickering team, because they haven't had the right guys since JR & Lawler were in their prime (the PPV where bitter JR keeps getting his mic cut and the '99 Survivor Series after Austin gets run over are hilarious to listen to as Lawler keeps needling JR and pushing his buttons perfectly).

It would appear all the SCUM guys are gone...for now.

I don't know if I'd put IDENTITY in the category of "great". but it had me pretty rivited until that shit ending. While we're on that topic, might as well pose the "shitty movies" with great endings question. The first thing that comes to mind for that is BLAIR WITCH PROJECT.

Dolfan has alerted me of both the passing of Eileen Brennan and the fact that I'm not the only one who loves CLUE: THE MOVIE. Seriously, if we re-do the Best of the 80's, don't be surprised if that's #1 on my list.

Better than the Drew Carrey version, but still miles behind the original.

THE LAST BROADCAST. Perfectly serviceable low-budget mystery (that inspired BLAIR WITCH) but that ending...OH THAT FUCKING ENDING!

Ugh, if the NFL Network can only fill their training camp coverage time by recycling the same thing over and over, why do it? You have a ridiculous backlog of classic games you could throw on.