Unnatural

Way behind on viewing but I'm catching up on night 2 right now. Holy fucking hell, the flying teabag from Edge to a seated Randy had me fall off my couch laughing my ass off about as hard as I laughed at Nak missing the double clothesline on Best Friends and being compared to Charlie Brown ? At first watch I wasnt that sure but then the replay with the alternate angle confirms Edge with the flying ? and oh my Gotch I lost it? Then in the Smackdowns womens match Bayley and Sasha each get pinfall attempts from the other women and Cole says something about Bayley was nearly eliminated, so we cut to Bayley rolling out of the ring after kicking out and as she hits the ground she's defending herself about No she didn't, like shes arguing with Coles commentary in the middle of the match??? it was the look on her face and how she grit it out to counter argue with Cole that just killed me. I'm enjoying Night 2 just as much as I loved Night 1. It's the little things but hahahaha I love them

Brodie Lee as Tyler Durden? I wouldn't be surprised. While they've cut a few angles and stables that they felt didn't have direction, per all the news about dismantling the Nightmare group run by Brandi, they've stuck with Dark Order which gots me thinking it'll be something huge when we get to the reveal. I could be way off and will admit as much once we get to that point. It's funny, for all the vitriol that some feds get for rushing through storylines and not letting them breathe, I do at times get antsy wishing we could get bigger nuggets of the direction they're going rather than the appetizers we've gotten. That's just me being impatient hahahaha but I'm also glad they're letting it simmer and build, which ? I hope gets us to a huge payoff?

Jericho slaying Tony on commentary with the jokes had me laughing my own ass off so hard. Calling Nak Charlie Brown for that diving double clothesline had me dying! Holy CROM I'm looking forward to more Jericho/Tony match calling

Speculation was saying Charly is the one, but that's based on her being absent from social media for about a week now so grain of salt The Ronda thing, going by Lana and Alexas tweets, I'm not sure if this more Ronda/Becky "working the fans" mode like the wrestlemania buildup or if this is something real and they're legit heated with her. I'd be on board for a modern brawl for all in the sense of open weight division just to see who the real tough guys are. Finally kill this whole obsession with pushes being based on size and look. Just as an example, toss in D-Bry with Jinder and I almost expect Bryan to stretch him a million ways. Give Elias to someone like let's say Gable and let them loose on each other. Stupid idea on my part, 100%, agreed up front, but I just feel, and the numbers can prove me wrong, that pushes based on look/size are wasted versus pushes based on actual talent. (This ignores promo ability and is strictly a shitty talking point about look vs talent)

I would absolutely give anything for footage of Styles cleaning Bradshaws clock! Bradshaw showing up the next night with a cowboy hat to conceal his shiner is one of those moments burned into my brain. I forgot who all dismissed it as just a sucker punch that JBL didn't see coming but considering that one time JBL jumped Blue Meanie from behind I'm not concerned with the semantics on Styles knocking him loopy.

Speaking of HBO filler does anyone remember The Immortals with Pantoliano, Tia Carrerre and Eric Roberts? Holy fuck I loved that movie back then and would give up another toe to see it now just to see if it still holds up. Like Things to do in Denver this was one of those 90s flicks I'd stay up for just hoping to record it if I saw it listed on the tv guide. Three of Hearts with the Baldwin is another, Specialist with Stallone. So many I loved back then that I probably haven't seen in 20 years.

Gargano/Ciampa Owens/Zayn Bayley/Sasha If I never see them tie up again it'll be too soon. Since I tend to skip Dark except for highly pimped matches I'm not sure if AEW has any rivalry that's been run into the ground yet but given time, with their roster size, I think we'll get there eventually. Might help I only watch super pimped matches from Impact/MLW so a very good chunk of the roster isn't that known to me outside of Lucha Underground and maybe some NJPW matches.

My main takeaway from the BFA episode was, "Wait a goddamn minute, is Bart Gunn John Morrisons dad?" They had a still shot of Bart Gunn by Adam Bomb backstage at one point and I would swear Gunn looks just like Morrison. On the topic of... Was it ever mentioned if Chris Voldermort and Edge were cousins or relatives? Having seen the Voldemort episodes weeks back and the Second Mountain episode last night it struck me how much Edges mom and Voldemorts dad almost could be brother and sister just off their eyes. Like how weird within a month seeing a pair of documentaries and theres something about their eyes where to my stupid buffoon mind they looked to be related. Last idiot minded piece about relatives. Is there any way of proving Adam Cole isn't the son of HBK? I hate to come off like some yokel jumping to conclusions about who is related to who but going through the Angle/HBK episode it's almost standing out to me that Adam Cole looks like a reborn, shorter HBK. Taking it back on topic, I'm about ready to just skip the remainder of the episodes if we get more Cornette/Russo stupidity highlighted on the show. Last season it was enough that it almost took up half an episode, but to see them rekindle it with something about a voicemail and all that and it just veers away from the topic to their feud because it cracks up the producers? One moment Bradshaw gets ko'd and Bart wins then theres a cut about Russo saying he got a voicemail (this is after JR mentions the steak and sizzle part) from Cornette and they dont see eye to eye and I'm lost because I can't tell if this voicemail is after the BFA or years later? That's the part where I go, okay forget the subject matter, this is what everyone wants to watch? These two going after each other again, like at this point why not give them their own episode or something and just let them have their own segment away from the stuff we're actually here for?

@Six String Orchestra thanks! They bring a hatred and intensity out of each other, just what I was hoping for. Appreciate you.

Loved Owens/Rollins. Did Steenerico ever mix it up with AotF? I think these two have a hatred that just comes naturally to them when squaring off and while I don't want the feud run into the ground I would like to see the feud escalated to maybe a cage match where they take turns ping ponging each other off the cage.

100% agreed, I wish they'd had better lighting on that big reveal scene, I'd give it more stars than a Young Bucks match in Japan with Kenny Omega involved hahaha. It was a nice shot but I kept looking for the signature details to confirm (before reading the director's interview) and liked it enough that I'm going to be let down if they can't follow through with another one.

I heard that the shit monster works greener than goose shit!?

I like the MOTU/WWE mashups but for that signature MOTU look I've been customizing the Loyal Subjects line up swapping WWE heads with MOTU heads. Loyal Subjects making Teela /Evil Lynn and Sorceress made it super easy for giving Sasha Banks and any other women wrestlers released some MOTU options. Having said all that I'm still hoping to get the MotuWwe Greyskull ring.?

Street hockey minions to AEW confirmed! Hahaha

Saw Underwater, and I guess for its budget it's a movie. The set pieces at times reminded me of Cloverfield, where the environment is as much a threat as any monsters or what have you. Great tense moments absolutely, triggered my claustrophobia a few times (though thankfully nowhere near as bad as Turistas or the Descent). Also saw Ghostbusters the original, and The Fly remake with Goldblum. Goddamn, but Fly really is one fine piece of filmmaking. Never saw these as a kid cause my pops wasn't even letting me anywhere near movies like this. Something like Robocop or Terminator, with Cyborgs he was fine with. Monsters and ghosts and supernatural, nope! And to his way of thinking back then The Fly may as well be Leatherface or Pinhead lol, he wasn't letting me watch no matter how much a fan I was of Goldblum as a kid.

If it's Jason Lee from Dogma, Azrael I think, then yes please! Those skate boarding minions of his knew to lay their strikes in, not like the one Creeper who went viral for his "strikes" on Dustin.

Can I use the Alex Shelly/Kevin Nash line here please? Alex-Do they even go that high (outside ofJapan)? Nash-They did that night. Lmao

Hahahaha, now I'm picturing that gif of Richards and Edwards with the superplex off the top into a suplex over the top rope to the outside only it's Davey vs Rona in my head. Good shit pal.

All the New Jack discussion and this last episode has me wondering if Jack and Necro Butcher ever had a match? Just that the idea of Jack trying to mess with a legit tough guy got me wondering what Jack vs Samoa Joe might look like, which then got me remembering the Joe vs Necro matches, which was how I started thinking about a Jack/Necro brawl/match.

For feline gimmicks, anyone mention Ortiz, master of Tiger Style?

One thing with Brodie, I'm not that sure he's completely mocking Vince each time out. He's a control freak. All the masks and hidden faces, maybe it's some weird Zed and the Gimp situation where he has to be the domineering one all of the time? I'm reaching, sure. I'm almost sure I read in this forum once or twice that DO came off like a weird sex cult or something. If that is the vibe, could Brodie be taking it to the next level and he just wants to control everyone around him all the time because he gets a kick out of having that power? Just saying, Dark Order has been a slow burn all this time. While there's been missteps and growing pains, I think I'm fine giving them some leeway for a month or three to see where they go with Brodie. I'd like to remember Matt Hardy at the start of his broken phase, when the board had a dumpster fire thread about him. It almost feels like another slow burn where everything in the present looks ridiculous but we get to the big picture and suddenly it makes sense. Not saying that it's the same situation and all, just thinking aloud that as this plays out over months maybe we see what they wanted to do with the Dark Order and Lee all along, especially with how they shifted gears and cut some acts like Brandi's group but they've kept DO going and growing. And like Broken Matt, just maybe, fingers crossed, it pays off big time creatively.

What I'd like to see, and I know I'm way in the wrong on on this take, but it would be funny to see a MST3K version of grapplers clapping back at the folks putting the wrestlers through the wringer. So as an example, instead of wrestlers jumping on social media with the "if you never stepped foot in the ring who are you to judge my work/look/physique/etc" reponse, why not just gather a couple of other wrestlers/talent and sit there making a video clapping back at the critics. "Oh so this guy wants to comment on my (promo/physique/match) well look at their (clothes/hair/background setting where they're filming/etc)" and then the wrestlers/talent all jump in and laugh at the critic(s) and then post that reply instead. They all jump in and go after whoever rounded up their friends to have a laugh at them. Because if we're being honest, the majority of the fans filming their reactions and posting their clips criticizing wrestlers looks/physique/talent have no dog in the fight. I mean, if they did, wouldn't they be on TV putting butts in seats (completely rhetorical) and not commenting from the peanut gallery. I know this won't happen because the critics being mocked would probably try to sue for damages for being bullied by celebs or being mocked and humiliated, that kind of thing, but I think it would be funny (which is how I know that's the wrong take hahaha)

Longtime lurker, first time posting. I got diagnosed with diabetes 4 years ago, and lost the big toe on my right foot at the same time. (big surprise, 35 years of junk food and being a couch potato will give one high blood pressure, diabetes, and a whole bunch of mess). Tldr there's a host of medical issues tied into this, fine. Four years on, they've got my meds at the right dosage so there's less anxiety, and I've had enough surgeries on my feet taking care of ulcers that I know to find creative ways to spend my time when I'm on medical leave to stay off my feet and let my surgeries heal. So that's me, and I understand why it happened and I can live with it. Heart issues, blood pressure, sugar levels, etc. Been managing it and came to terms a long time ago had I taken better care of myself, I could have stopped this. What I can't live with is my cousin Jesse, who's a year younger than me and "claims" to be going through some of the same issues yet when you press him for details he goes all ghost town and vanishes. For example. He seems to be constantly seeking everyone else's pity every other week for one thing or another. Claimed to tear his achilles off the bone, then pops up at some live event on tv in the front row without crutches, a walker, any kind of support. Claims to have had all kinds of surgeries on his back and pops up within weeks at this cookout or at that event and he's standing around just fine without any walking/standing aids. What grinds on my nerves is, here I'm going through real things, but I don't seek pity parties, I'm not grieving and down in the dumps looking for someone to cheer me up, I'm not group texting my close circle of friends baiting someone to take me out and lift my spirts. I don't do any of that, because like I was saying, I've come to terms on a lot of things going on in my life and accepted responsibility for what my actions back then led to in the present. Jesse can't help but always find something negative to harp on like its weighing him down heavy. He's stuck at home for months because doctors worked on his back. He's bedridden and needs to go to rehab because of the torn achilles. He'll say something and I see it as obvious bait that he's just on his latest kick of "whoa is me" but for how long this has been going on my family and our friends seem to take the bait every time and they rush to his side, taking him out to the movies, bringing food over and movies so they can cheer him up. As mentioned he'll mention he's on medical orders to stay in, and then send the group pics at cookouts or live events and nobody seems to notice what he's whining about he turns around and "miraculously" bounces back so fast each time. And this has been going on for years, since we were in our teens. Pity parties how he wouldn't get a girlfriend because of his obesity. Pity parties about not having a close relationship with one of his parents over language barrier (instead of just, you know, taking classes to learn the language which were offered at our middle school and high school also, as electives). There's always some reason he's down in the dumps, theres always another tunnel he has to dig his way out of. And the answer is half the group rushes to his side, let's take him his favorite foods. Let's bring over some movie he hasn't seen yet. Let's get him a subscription to this service or that service so that he has something to fill his time when he's at home. He finds a way to milk them for their time and money, then goes right back to being depressed all over again about something else, and basically its like nobody's caught on yet. I think potentially there is some depression there sincerely, but he's not ready to see a professional about it because he hasn't held a steady job in forever. He doesn't have the money, and while he has friends and loved ones willing to put their money down for him, he'd rather soak up their finances on pick me ups like collectibles that'll brighten his day, or food. Like I said, it's getting on my last nerve to the point I want to just cut him out of my life completely. He mentions torn tendons and surgery then not even a month later he's at some game snapping pics and posting them on snapchat or something, no walking aids in sight. He had this surgery to correct some issues with the discs in his back, then he sends us videos of this 5 hour trip he took to the coast to celebrate someone's birthday. As someone who has had the surgeries and issues with tendons and blood pressure and heart related things, it pisses me off that I'll press him for details (to see if it might be something I can recommend or help with since I'm legit going through those things) and he just vanishes into thin air when I try to ask him something he should have the answer to in seconds. He's crying wolf, from my vantage point, but nobody picks up how he goes all ghost when I try to put him in the spotlight and ask for specific info. I mean I'm upfront about my issues and what my doc said, what they explained and treatment and how treatment will affect my condition. I'm forthcoming because I get asked time to time how my checkup went, how did this medication affect me versus previous medication. I've been open about it when asked but this guy, nobody calls him on any of it. If they follow up and ask how things are going, he typically ignores texts or replies with more "whoa is me" which triggers more spoiling him with gifts/food. I could be in the wrong for feeling angry about how he uses everyone. He could legit have some issues that he needs help with. I just wish everyone would open their eyes and see the distinctions between my documented issues and his "i just looked up some quick stuff online but I couldn't go into any detail about it so I'll just ignore the queries" issues. Do they just shrug it off as "That's Jesse," and go back with their lives because they've already gotten used to it and don't even care anymore? ETA - I did have a discussion about this with another cousin of ours, and he shared with me how he has started to suspect the weirdness of Jesse also. He sees things Jesse mentions that will be contradicted, and is left wondering if maybe Jesse is full of sh-t like I suspect. So that was somewhat relieving to hear, but then I look at everyone else and wonder, okay who suspects something is off, and how many, if any of them do, are there? I almost wish we could sit down together and come to an agreement of sorts about what steps as a group we maybe should take on this issue. If any of you have had something similar to this, one person in the group constantly seeks out attention and "spoiling them" from everyone else, what did you do/how do you deal with something like this? I'm willing to just cut ties and happy to explain to our close circle why, but maybe that's not the right step or the correct way to go about it? Appreciate any feedback if any, or a reality check if I need it.