Zakk_Sabbath
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Just now, Craig H said:
So at AEW shows, they don't show backstage promos on their big screen?
Sometimes they do, not sure if there's any difference between pre-taped segments versus live or if it's just arbitrarily not shown sometimes for whatever reason.
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1 minute ago, Dog said:
Didn't Spears' contract expire? I assumed this Rampage appearance was a one-off "thank you" to him.
That's what I thought too, but Excalibur mentioned it as his return on commentary, so now I'm not too sure
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I thought this was a great one. Most every match delivered, and I was thrilled to be wrong about OC winning here. Was hoping Garcia was going to leave Jericho and 2.0 laying too in order to "be his own man" but maybe we'll get there yet.
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8 minutes ago, For Great Justice said:
OC has to finally win this one, right? He’s where Jungle Boy was before the tag title win…you can only lose the big one so many times, or lose to Pac a third time in a row
I think OC loses here again via ring bell hammer or whatever, but we get Death Triangle tension because Lucha Bros are uncomfortable with Pac's chicanery, which leads to an eventual Best Friends Trios title win as the 'actual' blowoff (and you'll keep DT looking somewhat strong in that one because they'll only lose there due to a miscommunication, or because the Bros are babyfacing it up begging Pac not to cheat). Then you can transition to Pac vs Fenix, or a three way DEATH TRIANGLE EXPLODES for the AA title or something, while OC and the BFs get their due with the six mans.
Editing to say that I agree that delaying an OC/BFs win any longer only serves/proves your 'can only lose the big one so many times' point further, but gun to my head, I think this might be where we're heading
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Hypothetical question time:
I was just talking in the Dynamite thread about how a couple of us have really been enjoying the women's tag matches lately, and it got me thinking: if the data shows that more viewers are retained during a multi-women match than a one on one, would it not be advantageous to simply unify the World & TBS titles and introduce women's tag titles? It would definitely solve Jade's "FTR problem" of 'how can a secondary titleholder be so dominant?'
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Have an awesome time @Infinit and @HarryArchieGus !!!
Great card on paper, and I agree with @Gordlow that these women's tags have absolutely been killing it lately (for the non-Dark/Elevation watchers, there have been a bunch of good ones on there lately, too. Even the squashes have been fun, and now that Willow finally got a main roster spot, I'm firmly on the 'Sign Trish Adora' train. And for the sake of both gender equality, and indulging the ADHD urge to include massive parentheticals in every post, I'll mention that the next man to be signed ought to be Action Andretti).
Main event will be a lot of fun, but I've gotta agree with @The Natural - I don't see Jericho/Danielson topping that last TV match. Both dudes' entire torsos were made of chop meat by the end of that thing.
Overall, I'm most looking forward to Pac/OC III stealing the show as usual, and then reading the online reactions of those who are desparately clinging to the idea of pretending they didn't - I guess it's the troll in me.
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8 minutes ago, L_W_P said:
I've been wondering about the specifics of AEWs deal with NJPW.
Obviously there's the Jay White - Adam Cole/Kenny Oemga connection but outside that?
I could absolutely see Hunter going to them with a proposal for much bigger US exposure and opening up NXT for guys on excursion in exchange for being able to book dream matches like Tana v Cena and Okada v Reigns.
I don't know much about the politics of the Japanese scene, so apologies in advance if I'm spewing nonsense, but is there any chance that NJPW working with WWE is in some way retaliation for AEW now working with NOAH?
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Trish Adora continues to impress. I hope she sticks around long-term and is one of the next ones up the Dark/Elevation-> Dynamite/Rampage pipeline like Anna, Skye, and now Willow before her.
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If they ever wanted to expand it to a trio, I think Spears would make a nice addition to the Tony Nese/Josh Woods team. I'd also like to see him catch a beating from The Firm to wrap up the MJF/Pinnacle stuff, kind of a Beefcake/NWO redux
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Well, that would certainly explain a lot.
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Fans of classic metal would do well to check out the new Sumerlands, just came out about a month ago. The guitarist/main guy Arthur is a friend of a friend from Philly, and he's slammin' - funny my last post was about the new Ozzy because he's bringing the Jake E Lee vibes here big
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HBD Gord, to many more!
AEW is really good about not hot-potatoing their titles, but I'm looking for a Trios title change tonight.
I think Willow loses here and gets 'one last shot' on a Wednesday or PPV to put a little more juice behind it (49-1 makes a lot more sense too) but if they're not getting the tag belts, I think eventually you have to give teams like DO and Best Friends their due with these trios titles.
Plus, the only title change on these BOTB specials so far has been Sammy's TNT title win over Cody, which I don't think one could necessarily categorize as "fondly remembered."
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On 10/6/2022 at 3:03 AM, Cobra Commander said:
yeah, just my impression that the Jersey Shore isn't quite as rednecky as some parts of the north (Pennsyltucky, etc). 97/98 DDP was a lot more relatable looking to fans from certain areas than 1995 DDP and 97/98 DDP had some fans who favored dudes that reminded them of someone they knew
DDP's look back then was like an amalgamation of every stepdad anyone's ever had
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18 minutes ago, Casey said:
Charlotte/Paige at TLC 2015 was pretty good from what I remember. IMO, this is when Charlotte was still putting it all together and wasn't fantastic or anything, so the match isn't entirely her doing.
Refresh me, was that the one where Charlotte pulled a falcon arrow to the outside out of nowhere?
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22 hours ago, SprintingFromAmerica said:
Just job him out on Dark every week as Fuego 3.
This would send the right message, honestly. I was thinking something sort of along these lines too: send him on excursion to Impact or NWA, and try to recoup a small percentage of his deal by essentially being his booking agent - basically, treat him the way Moolah treated her trainees (FINANCIALLY, I must stress).
14 minutes ago, For Great Justice said:She’s about to have a lights out match with Britt isn’t she
Sometimes those plunder matches can be safer than a regular bout, though, it really depends how much she wants to test it
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We are totally on the same page with Willow (hence the like) but could not be further apart on Hayter @AverageKong I think the "lightning" statement in your second paragraph could easily apply to Hayter - NY and Philly went banana for her! I guess it's kind of a good problem to have, in the end
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30 minutes ago, HarryArchieGus said:
too was bummed by the initial onsale, but this 'poor ticket sales' story seems true so far as the tickets have been dropping to reasonable prices over the last couple weeks
I'm beginning to feel like an idiot about this, by the way - I bought tickets for Grand Slam and the two dates up in Connecticut as soon as they went on sale and got screeeeeeewed. There are tickets in the same section slashed by almost half, if I'm reading this chart correctly
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6 hours ago, L_W_P said:
would honestly keep Jade going until Statlander is healthy again. If that's not for 12 months then so be it.
That's a tough one. I really like your idea in theory, and obviously dig Stat and am super bummed she was hurt for Grand Slam, but I feel like Jade holding it for a (hypothetical) year would put her in a similar situation to FTR, where they become so dominant as secondary champions that it begins to make no sense why they haven't challenged for the world title (though, on the flip side, AEW has never explicitly stated whether or not their on-screen rules indicate that Jade would have to vacate the TBS title should she become World champion, ala US champ Goldberg or IC champ Warrior).
I'll also say this: while I'm over the moon Willow is getting a shot, whether Jade drops it here or down the line, they *really* need to have a good plan in place for her post-streak/title. Hangman winning the title was arguably one of the most cathartic moments ever, but other than the awesome Lights Out matches with Archer and Cole, I wasn't in love with much of the reign/follow-up. Or more appropriately for this situation, let's think about what Miro's TV presence has been like since he lost the TNT title. I'd think they'd be wise to put in some extra effort with Jade to try and avoid something similar with her title loss.
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Looks like someone saw my post about Willow in the Rampage thread - they even referenced the first two matches they had (which I completely forgot about when I suggested a trilogy). Awesome!! Let's fuckin go!!
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4 minutes ago, Log said:
Yes. Hard time explaining that one.
He also just randomly shouts out, "THE OCHO!" because of Jericho.
Was your kid the one who called Money In The Bank "Pay The Dollars?" I know it was definitely someone here - it's been living rent-free in my head for years now.
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20 minutes ago, Log said:
No, that day is today. I'm intrigued.
Long, infuriating story short, Top Guy got in with the right people at a local indy, and talked his way into some pre-show ring time, but balked when he found out he would be training with a woman.
Unfortunately for him, that woman ended up being Mercedes Martinez, so now he works at the grocery store.
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20 hours ago, The Natural said:
AEW need this man.
It took a minute for your pic to load, and I was sitting here going "Its obviously Cody..." I said it before, but after all that shit I talked earlier in the year, it's looking more and more like that dude 1) may have had a feeling where we were heading with Punk, and 2) was a little more involved with keeping folks in line in the dressing room than we may have realized.
21 hours ago, Greggulator said:I think Sammy would be about 20,000 times better if he came up through NXT. There is a giant track record of people in NXT who learned how to perform as a character. Sami Zayn is probably the best in the world right now and until he signed with NXT he was under a mask pretending to be Mexican.
Sammy has the tools. He has a great pretty boy look. He's athletic as hell. But aside from public displays of affection with Tay is a crummy promo and doesn't know when to be vicious or when to be a cheap shot artist or when to look to the crowd for heat. That kind of stuff is really hard to learn. But he's in constant matches and the like with Chris Jericho, who is one of the best ever at the subtle timing needed in wrestling. But learning it once a week from Jericho (or if they train together at all elsewhere, which I doubt) isn't enough.
Sammy has also been really bad with cursing in promos or giving the finger or etc. All of that just tells me that he's never really worked on promos, or he doesn't know why a promo is a good promo, and he doesn't know how to work as a character. I think he'd be in a better situation where he'd have more guardrails.
I don't mean this pejoratively, because we all did it, but Sammy gives off the same energy as one of the best guys in our high school backyard fed, even down to his cadence when speaking (ironically, that guy probably blew his shot at a real wrestling career by being an asshole, to someone that's currently a champion no less, but that's a story for another day).
Edit: that is to say, that he's play wrestling and doing shit for the sake of it, and wildly overestimates at times, as though he's top yardie. Listen to the fake Rock voice.
In totality, I completely agree with the premise of your post, but I'm not sure NXT would be the place for it. I could completely see him getting the wrong message there and leaning more into the over the top facials and the 'shocked kick out face' and the 'hey, I'm loco' gesture and things like that.
On the other hand, if not there, where? Everyone's already covered the various issues with returning to AAA, NJPW seems like a weird fit and NWA/TNA/MLW are essentially non-factors. Maybe a year or two of humble pie in the new ROH?
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1 minute ago, Curt McGirt said:
Yeah, that TNT match is a biiiiig softball. Is Cage under contract with anyone right now? Maybe Tony is cutting brother a break and giving him a check and some TV time.
Everything else looks great.
I'm not certain on this, but I believe he was actually resigned by AEW (ostensibly for the ROHboot, but who knows)
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For anyone with terrible short term memory like myself:
Bryan Danielson & Daniel Garcia vs. Chris Jericho & Sammy Guevara
TNT title: Wardlow vs. Brian Cage
MJF vs. Wheeler Yuta
Hangman Page vs. Rush
Toni Storm, Athena & Willow Nightingale vs. Jamie Hayter, Serena Deeb & Penelope Ford
Darby Allin vs. Jay Lethal
Luchasaurus in action
National Scissoring Day” with The Acclaimed and Billy Gunn-
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Dynamite - 10/12/2022
in ALL ELITE WRESTLING
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GREAT summarization, @Matt D . I think you nailed exactly why Hangman's verbiage meant so much to so many. The interplay between the three was great (and shout to Hangman for handling the MJF chants like a pro).
If MJF's "I punch the mirror" line and Hangman literally punching himself in the face was unplanned and somehow just a serendipitous, happy accident, they've really stumbled onto a brilliant bit of storytelling in visually illustrating their similarities despite the fact that both characters to this point could not have been more different over the last three years. Unironically such good shit, pal.