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  1. https://twitter.com/WWE/status/512976420247961600 "You've waited long enough... Prepare yourself for the next generation. 9/22/2014" So, what's the skinny on this? My hypotheses: 1) Something to do with the new video game 2) NXT call-ups/half-baked invasion angle 3) WWE trying to generate interest with no clear idea of anything they're actually going to do come Monday. What say y'all?
  2. I agree-- which is why he'll follow the Bryan blueprint of being an upper-midcard heel for two years before they roll the dice, of course.
  3. Get the fuckin' fuck outta here. That's... come on, man.
  4. I tuned into Impact just because, why not, nothing's on and it's wrestling. I know I am one of the most critical people here when it comes to TNA, but I have to say, I wish they stumbled on the Manhattan Center when they had more guys. I just really, really love the way the building looks on TV, and NYC is always a rabid, smart crowd. If I were TNA or even ROH, I'd be running here every chance I got. Hell, if I were WWE, I'd be doing NXT there every one in a while (maybe those quarterly shows like Arrival/Takeover) just to get the guys in front of a different crowd. I read earlier today on Cageside Seats that TNA booked a few dates there in January, as well, which is cool. All that being said, I do think the early Raws had a better setup in terms of putting bleachers on the stage, and that sort of thing. EDIT: Just read in the TNA news thread, courtesy of Rovert, that Mike Johnson cannot verify the reports that TNA is running there in January. Bummer.
  5. I'm not a big Masked Man guy, either. It's not necessarily that his shit is bad, but he writes one column a month, if that, and he gets all weird about comparing WWE to literature and talking about post-modern shoot promos and all this type of shit-- he overthinks everything IMO. Maybe I'm wrong, but I feel that guys working on national TV shouldn't be getting paid less than I do to sit at a desk and fuck around all day. Sure, it's not like they're making $30 a night to work for Continental, but there's no way it can be a positive thing that your Women's Champion is working at Sunglass Hut. NXT is understandable because it's developmental and has an hour of TV on the in-house Network. Those guys are, in essence, being 1) paid to learn and 2) getting paid to have an opportunity to work their way into the WWE machine. I was appalled when I read in that Grantland article that AJ Styles was being asked to take a 40% pay cut. To reiterate what I've said in this and other threads, I absolutely don't want to see TNA fail, but things like that just kind of make it difficult to root for them, ya dig?
  6. I was speaking yesterday or the day before with Greggulator in the Nitro thread in the Network folder about being just the perfect age to really eat up the entire NWO angle (I had turned 10 a week before Starrcade) and man, I remember everything about this day-- I remember the light snow falling, the pizza we were eating, I remember the apple-scented candle my mom was burning in the living room, I remember my NWO shirt feeling like more than just a shirt-- this, to me has gotta be (other than Montreal, Foley falling from the Cell, and Austin at WM XIV-- all (maybe not so) coincidentally WWF occurrences) what defined pro wrestling for my generation. Sure, it was a shit-balls finish, and probably helped turn the tide in the WWF's favor, but everything leading up to it was just so God damn pitch perfect. Goosebumps is an understatement. It was still decidedly real for 10 year old me, dammit. My body is ready.
  7. If the NWO never happens, then neither does WCW becoming a juggernaut from 1996-1999, and we don't get the WWF taking as many chances and rolling the dice on Austin, anti-USA Bret, Foley, Shawn/HHH together as DX, The Rock's heel turn, amongst a host of other things. No Montreal, no Mr. McMahon... I mean, we could really go crazy with the Butterfly Effect type stuff here (which might actually be a really fun thread to make at some point). So with that in mind, I think it certainly wouldn't be out of the realm of possibility to say that Hogan may have gone back to the WWF after the needle stops moving, and the heat from the steroid trial dies down. Had Hogan stayed in WCW without the NWO happening, then I think we would have gotten booking that looked like a hybrid of pre-NWO era Nitro, and like, summer of 1999 where you have babyface Hogan teaming with Sting and Goldberg against Flair, Sid and Steiner, and of course that crappy Nash feud (that, really, could have and should have been so, so much more). I hope this doesn't offend you, but I want to ask: how old are you? I'm like 27 now, so at the time, my friends and I (who, to that point, were total WWF New Generation kids) thought that Razor and Diesel (the guys from "our team" were the babyfaces, and thus, Hogan's "cool" factor really, really shot up with us. Watching it in retrospect, it's easy to see how corny and, as Nash said in a shoot, how "wrestling" it is, but we loved it. I'm 36. I was in college when the nWo debuted. I started my (ugh) online fandom via Prodigy when I was a teenager and went to ECW in person so I was at my most smarky at the time period. I liked the first stuff with Hall and Nash doing bat attacks and spray paint but Hogan got so stale so fast, with his awful evil laugh and the like. The nWo were supposed to be the coolest guys in the room and here's Hogan with his dumb look and trunks with lightning bolts on them talking about his nWo-ites bowing at his feet and the like really didn't fit. Mind you, I wasn't a Hulkamaniac even in grade school and always leaned towards rooting for heels. I also liked NWA/WCW more (despite living outside NYC), so Hogan coming in and seeing Flair and Arn and those guys get pushed aside and Hogan and the Booty Man and the awful Dungeon of Doom nonsense was really sickening to me. So, I never liked Hogan. I never will. He's always bored me to tears and/or aggravated me. I gotcha. Outside of what we rented from Blockbuster after we got into WCW (once The Outsiders showed up and other kids at school started talking about it) I didn't see a whole ton of pre-NWO WCW-- and you're about ten years older than me, so that definitely colors our respective perspectives (possible band name). My family also didn't get Internet until about late '97, and I wouldn't say I got smartened up until about mid-'98 when I saw ECW on MSG for the first time, and accidentally got linked to 1wrestling through a banner ad on their site. Before that, the only wrestling site I knew was AOL Keyword: WWF. So, as a '90s college guy, let me ask you this: were Nitro parties ever at any point an actual thing?
  8. If the NWO never happens, then neither does WCW becoming a juggernaut from 1996-1999, and we don't get the WWF taking as many chances and rolling the dice on Austin, anti-USA Bret, Foley, Shawn/HHH together as DX, The Rock's heel turn, amongst a host of other things. No Montreal, no Mr. McMahon... I mean, we could really go crazy with the Butterfly Effect type stuff here (which might actually be a really fun thread to make at some point). So with that in mind, I think it certainly wouldn't be out of the realm of possibility to say that Hogan may have gone back to the WWF after the needle stops moving, and the heat from the steroid trial dies down. Had Hogan stayed in WCW without the NWO happening, then I think we would have gotten booking that looked like a hybrid of pre-NWO era Nitro, and like, summer of 1999 where you have babyface Hogan teaming with Sting and Goldberg against Flair, Sid and Steiner, and of course that crappy Nash feud (that, really, could have and should have been so, so much more). I hope this doesn't offend you, but I want to ask: how old are you? I'm like 27 now, so at the time, my friends and I (who, to that point, were total WWF New Generation kids) thought that Razor and Diesel (the guys from "our team" were the babyfaces, and thus, Hogan's "cool" factor really, really shot up with us. Watching it in retrospect, it's easy to see how corny and, as Nash said in a shoot, how "wrestling" it is, but we loved it.
  9. I'm just speculating here, but I honestly wonder if 30 was the end of the road for Taker. I mean, WM is still six months away, but he looks to have dropped some muscle.
  10. Said RS feature if anyone is interested (I haven't read it since it originally ran): https://groups.google.com/forum/#!topic/alt.pro-wrestling.wolfpac/wDxP38Tkk9U
  11. Every time I see Michael Berryman in anything, all I can think is:
  12. Ugh this is probably going to come true. Brock should honestly just get the absurdly long Sammartino run with the belt. If this finish does occur, he pretty much has to murder Cena in the ring after, leaving Heyman to come out every week and be like "HA now you have NO champion"
  13. I think they reprinted the Hogan/Tyson dream match story in the '90s. I vividly remember It started with Hogan getting off an elevator somewhere, and being greeted by Vince saying "Monster!"
  14. I get that argument, but at the same time, I don't. We're gonna worry about pushing those prone to injury, but two pages ago, we're clamoring for Dolph (who's one overly stiff kick to the head away from entering the Welker-zone) to work with Brock?
  15. I KNOW the "just turn Cena!" thing has been absolutely DONE to DEATH, and to be honest, I'm sick of talking about it. But in the spirit of ODing on Nitro reruns (because Raw is gonna be worse than the damn Giants...) let me just say this: When Hulk was heading the NWO, he worked, what, 1-2 matches a month if that? They could still use Cena's name to draw even if he just came out and talked for 10 minutes every week about where the power lies, brother.
  16. What I do in the privacy of my own bedroom is no one's business but my own, thank you very much "You are pushing Tank Abbott too high up the card"
  17. I'm not a big college football guy, but whoever it is doing the announcing on this USC-Stanford game sounds a lot like Michael PS Hayes in the Dok Hendrix era
  18. I know I'm definitely in the minority on this one, but a lot of times when I watch Raw today, the thing I miss most about those days is the "crash TV" pacing of the show. There are some weeks where I feel like I'm in a time vortex and that three hours is somehow six months long.
  19. According to Wikipedia, it was "mid-2002" and Russo pitched bringing in Eric Bischoff as GM, so it had to have been before July I'm gonna roll the dice and say Mr. JL?
  20. 2002 was actually probably the last time I watched WWE and expected any sort of surprise or left turn in the storytelling. Undisputed Champion Chris Jericho, the tail end of Austin's run, arrival of the NWO leading into Rock/Hogan, brand split, rise of Brock, HBK returns, Scott Steiner debuts. Once the show started being HHH doing those long promos at the top of the show, I started mentally checking out, but most of 2002 was pretty cool.
  21. I thought he was re-hired around that time, and was sent packing after pitching an NWO reboot with Bret Hart and Goldberg or something wacky like that
  22. February 96: Belfast Bruiser vs. Brad Armstrong, fuck it why not? Both men have glorious mullets and Finlay is laying his shit in
  23. Crowds these days are more interested in getting themselves over than they are getting behind a babyface to triumph over the heels.Well, besides the Daniel Bryan run to Mania. That was the pinnacle of fans trying to get themselves over. It may have started out that way with that post WM crowd, but I believe that over time, it's become a good ol' fashioned babyface reaction. Like, I couldn't see Michigan State Basketball or fans at MLB games chanting "This is/we are awesome" or something like that. Sure, maybe mainstream appeal or pop culture sightings are a weird way to quantify the genuineness of a babyface reaction in this day and age, but I think it's fun, it's "genuine," and I'm already surprised at how long of a shelf life it's had so far. 2011 was, for all intents and purposes, forever ago. If Bryan, God willing, is healthy enough to come back at some point, then he might even give it new life upon his return. RandomAct: about the Sting/taking heat post, I believe tromataker said Ambrose on another page, and I have to agree there. His stuff with the Shield was right out of that Sting-school of really drawing that part of a match out (and I mean that in a good way), I feel like. This might be an oddball pick, especially given the up and down nature of his pushes, but I think Ziggler could be really good at it if he chilled out on the selling like HBK during the Hogan match.
  24. Dude you wanna talk about fucking random? February '96, I'm watching Konnan vs. DANGEROUS DEVON STORM.
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