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I, too, was born on a date! So, uh...does anyone know what Evan Bourne has been doing this whole time? Why he hasn't returned? Why he hasn't been released if they aren't going to do anything with him? What about Big Zeke, JTG, and Yoshi? Are they all just sitting at home? Where's Layla? Did anyone else notice Teddy Long disappearing? Or how about this: Does Curtis Axel have a finishing maneuver? Can you prove it?

...you know McLovin as the guy from Kick-Ass?

Considering how it turned out last time, it's probably off the table. It was Hennig, Austin, Angle, and HHH, probably my favorite final four of all time, but Hennig's been my favorite wrestler since childhood and I was there live, so I might be biased. Regal would be perfect for that spot.

Has Rey even worked a match in the last 3 years that wasn't with Del Rio? How is it that Rey is essentially a part timer at this point and they've made every one of his appearances forgettable by pairing him with a somehow less interesting Randy Orton?

Looked more like a Michinoku Driver to me.

I haven't watched any of his stuff in years, but Apollo was pretty much universally shit on when compared to his predecessor. I can't imagine he was able to do anything with the terrible face Doink promos.

Virgil was called "Soul Train Jones" at the time, I believe.

Hey, here's a discussion Victator and Gonzalez can ruin for us: Is "top rope" really necessary to say when the "super" part of "superplex" already implies that it's from the top rope?

Oh, go back to the time warp you crawled out of. Kane's unmasking led to a renewed monster push that positioned him as a top heel before they started the Shane McMahon nonsense.

Man, that sucks.I could see it being Dr Death. I can't imagine anyone inducting him but Ross.

And even if it were clear what was happening, it doesn't explain why a tombstone piledriver from the apron to the floor needs a spike at all, let alone a double foot stomp as a spike when it's through a table. I mean...come on? A guy taking a spot like that should be kayfabe dead and never wrestle again, but was that even the finish of this match?

If that guy took any indy dates for two months after that (and if he didn't, please correct me for being wrong), it's business exposing: it's a goddamn tombstone piledriver through a table on the floor. Treating moves like that like headlocks is the reason people that get signed to WWE have to "re"learn how to work in NXT. It's confusing because several posters commented that they had to watch it multiple times to understand what was even happening. I'm still trying to understand why the spiking dude was even there, like whatever he was doing to add to a *tombstone through a table to a floor* was worth what it likely did to his knees. The suggestion that these guys somehow need to do this particular spot to earn a living is ridiculous.

Why are people still defending this move like it's not terrible looking, business exposing, excessive, and confusing in general? Even if you didn't care about the health of wrestlers it would still look awful.

First Against Me! album in four years, Transgender Dysphoria Blues, is streaming over at NPR, and is awesome: http://www.npr.org/2014/01/12/261095666/first-listen-against-me-transgender-dysphoria-blues

This is also a great reason to hold off for some time on the NWO - Savage, Nash, Hall, Bubba, Rude, Liz, Rotundo, and Steiner all warrant their own inductions, probably among others.

Talk Is Jericho has its own thread: http://deathvalleydriver.com/forum/index.php?/topic/1165-talk-is-jericho/

I'm not clicking on that video and spoiling the mental image of either Hall in Shield gear or Reigns with gold chains and a toothpick.

Yeah, I don't remember the last time I saw a promo that didn't look scripted on WWE TV. Glad they finally gave the Usos some mic time and they ran with it. Really good buildup for the match on Raw.

I think you're on to something here. My point (which obviously flew over FSW's head, not really surprising, but still...) was that even to the target demographic for WWE (20-somethings with disposable income), Too Cool was hardly the phenom he seems to remember. The argument of "It's on tv every week" is about as stupid as one can get when you factor in editing and WWE employees exhorting people to stand up, dance, hold up signs, shit on themselves, or whatever Pavlovian reaction is called for. I'd actually argue that a loyal audience that can be seen to react week after week is a much better barometer. Granted, the 200 or so folks that were at the bar every Monday might be too small to be considered a decent sampling, but I'd put a lot more credence in an eyewitness than in the false nostalgia of someone who was likely throwing their pacifier at the screen during most of the 1990s. So...you're really saying that how the crowd responds to a wrestler shouldn't be a measure of how popular they are?

I'd argue that Goldust is one of the few with a motivation that just hasn't been explained very well - as a veteran that earned himself one last run and wants to prove that he's still got it.

Well, there was ultimodank up there with the "matches are good so product cannot be improved upon!" deal.

U wrong tho

Not going to pretend to understand how this thread is almost entirely rap and nobody has gotten around to this yet: Pusha T - What Dreams Are Made Of

Yeah but I didn't get into that whole thing until later, when the superworkers and the luchadores (and Jericho) were in WCW, Austin and Foley were in WWF, and what was left was just this cheap-looking super-indy with a lot of hardcore clusterfucks and the mutants talking it up like it was the best ever. Basically this. I never really got into anything ECW had to offer after Raven left for WCW.