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As George Carlin would say who better to know whats needed? Re: the Codyverse; to me it felt like a thing. He had that long Factory feud where the Factor never seemed to get a meaningful win and then the Black/Andrea stuff where they kept rematching despite being in a company that rarely does them so it did feel like he was on an island

I remember when The Angleslam was The Oplympic Slam. And did he rename the anklelock the anglelock? my ears have always heard the former

Recap of various books I've read somewhat recently. Hardcore History: The Extremely Unauthorized Story of ECW. A little on the short side at only 245 pages but a fun read. A lot of stories you probably know but some very interesting stuff about the end of the promotion and what they where owed vs what they owed people. Basically even if Paul Heyman got his money form PPV it wouldn't have kept the company afloat. Nitro: The Incredible Rise and Inevitable Collapse of Ted Turner's WCW. Really good in-depth coverage of WCW side of the MNW. You've heard the "death of wcw" type of stories before but the inside baseball stuff on turners front offices make it worth the read. Accepted: How the first gay superstar changed WWE by Pat Patterson. Really enjoyed this one. Talks about being gay in a very macho straight world (read Rob Halfords bio back to back with this). Started wrestling in the 60's which is an era we don't hear a lot about. Also talks about working for Roy Shire in San Francisco and Don Owen in Portland two territory's that seem to get over looked. Denies ever using his position to sleep with anyone. (also claims him and Louie where exclusive in the 80's due to the aid pandemic). Uses the phrase "even superstars need to be produces" sees him self as more of a producer than a star. The Cowboy and the Cross: The Bill Watts Story, Rebellion, Wrestling, and Redemption. Talks about the territories in the 60s and 70s which is interesting. talks ALOT about finding Jesus (to the point where as the reader Im like we get it don't need it every chapter). Also apparently he was toughest man on earth. The WCW stuff is interesting in that much like Eric Bishoff's book while I don't agree with ever decision he made I now understand where he's coming from on those choices. This also reads like a reference manual to Good Ole JR. So much stuff I could hear coming out of JRs mouth and so much of JR AEW commentary sounds like this books. (Bill Watts loves guys who played football and/or had amateur credentials. really explains JRs love of Josh Woods) The Hardcore Truth: The Bob Holly Story. Interesting because he was kind of an underneath guy for pretty much his whole career. Someone vince saw as a mechanic or a carpenter. Talks about being a racecar driver (which lead to the Sparky Plugg gimmick) , working as mechanic and a welder, and doing toughman (and talks about brawl for all). Thoughts on his concepts of wrestling (says womens wrestling doesn't draw, I would agree that shitty sable matches didn't, why he prefers to loose clean in a hard fought bout than screw jobs, liking to work stiff especially against bradshaw) Actually talks a lot about The Benoit Tragedy which makes me think that a lot of people want to dismisses the CTE due to the fact that it could happen again. He blames it more on alcohol and says that alcohol kills more people than steroids which is true but there is way more alcohol using in general society. Very forth coming on his thoughts on both Vince and HHH. talks a lot about steroid using in WWE (says he was never told to get on them but he looked around the locker room and knew what was expected physique wise) and testing (guys got prescriptions for testosterone and no GH testing). Says when Booker T came in he kept his head down and didn't act like a big shot compared to Buff who acted like he was hot shit. Also spends half the book talking about how tough he is (talks about how he was tougher than Daniel Puder) yet was worried old man patterson was gonna try to fuck him Masked Decision's: The Triangular Life of Dick "The Destroyer" "Doctor X" Beyer From American Athlete to International Icon. Dick Byer is the guy who wrestler Rizidozan with 70 million people watching on TV in Japan. Started in the 50's Worked in the 60s and in the LA (last Gorgeous George matches), Portland, and Hawaii territories. Also new Zealand, Australia and Germany in addition to being a big star in Japan. Enjoyed hearing about eras and territories that historically get overlooked don't look for mudslinging as its probably the most positive wrestling book I've ever read. Seems to have had a great one of a kind life. ChokeHold: Pro Wrestling's Real Mayhem Outside the Ring , untold stories of Greed, Abuse and Betrayal. By Jim Wilson. Over 500 pages so cover quite a bit of ground. Started wrestling in the 60's while playing pro football realized the boys where getting screwed (and Jim Barnett tried to screw him in Australia) so tried to unionize and ended up getting blackballed. Then him and T-Bolt Patterson tried run opposition in Georgia (he also worked opposition for Anne Gunkle) ended up suing the NWA for illegal business practices and being a monopoly. Reading it I kinda wonder why he kept banging his head against the wall when he couldn't get the boys to go along with him. Was college educated and could have made a good living in real estate. Good look into the NWA's business practices. used the FOI to get a look the 1956 consent decree by the justice department that the NWA was a monopoly, and how the NWA simply didn't abide by that. Discuses the various scandals of the 90's (sex abuse, steroids, Ventura lawsuit, Sable lawsuit) and actually uses the documents from the cases. Also claims The NWA changed the title three times to kill his opposition business Harley Race/Tommy Rich/ Dusty Rhodes (Ed Farhat told him the Tommy Rich fucked Jim Barnett to get the belt) all in three months in 81. Lot of history of Georgia wrestling (GCW/Championship wrestling from Georgia/JCP/ WCW). Lot of NWA politics and and Wrestling TV Politics. In many ways a history of the NWA from a different vantage point, talks alot about dealing with Jim Barnett who was kinda the man behind the curtain for much of wrestling since the 60's (including working for Vince)

I like when a wrestler slightly renames a move to match their character/gimmick. Mia Yima calling a Code Red a Code Blue or Guido/Nunzio calling a Side Russian Leg Sweep a Side Italian Leg Sweep

@Curt McGirt@JLowe

I like the idea of "count outs and DQs are at a referees discretion" makes sense that the ref would want the main event to end on a double count out just cause Austin and the Rock decided to brawl all over the building

Wasn't he just called Swole? I remember thinking "with a physique like that if he can do anything in ring..." problem is he couldn't

I'd prefer they call it the Alpha bomb considering Monty Brown would sometimes use it as a finisher after he hit the pounce

Tonight was the night of the angry Samoans! In Wilmington at PCW Ultra! As usual some line switheroos last minute opening fourway had Lucas Riley, Danny Limelight, Lince Dorado, and Matt Vandagriff. Huge heat on Danny Limelight as the mostly mexican-american crowd cants "fuck New York" anytime he goes on offence. not a fan of fourways but was excited to see the first three. Lince wins with something off the top Shane Haste loses to Puma King Toa Liona wins via DQ over Bad Dude Tito after Shane Haste comes back hits Toa with a low blow. Toa doesn't appreciate being double teamed and says he has a "partner" GOA in PCW? I hope so! Toa really comes off as a star and seemed happy with being mobbed by fans on the way to his car Viva Van (recently featured on AEW) won over Sumi Sakai match was a little clunky at times but nice story with Sumi going for the victory roll three times with Viva finally countering for the win! Viva looks really good considering she's had to make due during a pandemic. I saw some of her very first matches pre everything going to hell Main event was a fourman weapons filled cage match. Hammerstone v Schaff v Bodie Sinn v Our second angry samoan of the night Jacob Fatu. Sinn light off a bunch of firecrackers on Hammerstone but Hammerstone hulks up only for Samuel to close the door in his face! Allowing for Fatu to hit a TOP OF THE CAGE MOONSAULT ON TO HAMMERSTONE!! if only Afa and Sika had thought to try that against Hogan back in the day! that's how you stop a hulk up! Fatu escapes the cage! New Champ!

Between Jade sitting in a chair in the middle of the ring and that press release talking about Jericho being "a master of innovation" and "having a career year" tell me Tony is not on this board

Jim Cornette talked about this on his pod once. Apparently there was a riot back in the Bruno days that got wrestling kicked out of MSG for a bit. So when they came back they would put the main on in the middle of the card so the if the fans where upset they wouldn't riot cause they knew they where still getting Ander or what ever. Other possible reasons are letting Hogan get out of the building before the fans and putting the Hogan match before intermission to goose merch sales

Seems to be the formula of the time A show got Hogan and the B show was a stronger undercard

He had a very short but sweet match against Yoko. Few power moves, samoan drop by Yoko misses the butt splash Nash gets a cover. A bit o slobber knocking its fun and you really dont want those guys going 20 minutes

I've always felt that Bobby Heenans Stu Hart jokes felt out of place in the Owen Hart tribute match on Nitro. In some ways I felt he was more suited for the 80s/early 90s cartoon WWF than the more reality based late 90s

Yes although I now realize that the match ends in a double DQ

I need Dax the Ax to start doing that bald hair pulled spot

So would be end up with Dark/Elevation on Monday and Tuesday, Dynamite on Wednesday, ROH on Thursday, Rampage on Friday and weekends for PPVS.?

Hook v The COntinetal Lover JD Drake? from your lips to Lemmys ears @DEANPretty Pete puts in perspective how large wrestlers are, having seen him up close and in person he a fairly musclar man yet hes one of the smallest guys on the roster