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I recall it takes a minute for Lucha Underground to really find its footing. Also I'm totally "what a maneuver!" Vince Macmahon with the actual names of moves these days myself

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NzhL49ODNZM Jericho v Bruv

I want to see Danhausen put the curse on the stuffed iguana

Marty The Moth I heard had a bad back injury but did work Cage on AEW Dark

Spike Lee has talked about Do The Right Thing Being about people putting property above human life. One thing I didn't notice first time is after the cops kill Radio Raheem (with a choke hold which they are not supposed to do cause its considered lethal force) the public announcement mentions a commission to investigate the arson but not about the police killing a young black man. The love hate thing is interesting in the LOVE is on the RIGHT hand. and most of the characters show elements of both, Sal has a temper, Buggin Out may have a point but goes about it in the most obtuse way possible (I always find myself thinking this would be like going into a Soul Food place and getting worked up about say a picture of Barrak Obama on the wall and being like Where are the white people?) , Radio is a bit of an ass toward the koreans and Sal, ect. Now some people have interpreted the ending as Mookie did the right thing that by throwing the trash can he redirects the crowds anger away from Sal and towards the pizzeria potentially saving his life.

I agree with your assessment on the quality of those early ladder matches. For me they feel like athletic contests where both men are trying to win not just a bunch of stunts as thats what those sort of matches have turned into. Also I was able to get the DVDs of WSX on Netflix some years back and its interesting how much DNA it seems to share with LU. From Mil Muertes/Judas Messiah being the big bad, Vampiro making a reference to the ladder match (and at one point calling Mr Cisco "a little cholo") and the over all aesthetic. Certainly feels like LU creators watched it for reference.

The Janell Grant/Vince thing sounded like she though she was signing up to be his mistress (which is like why not just have a mistress?). I was always under the impression that money, fame and power got you women. what's with all the raping

Between this and like the Vince stuff I'm always kinda like "you have all this money and fame and influence, you can get women. what's with the rape?". I wonder does the money turn these people depraved or are they depraved from the get go and when they get the money they feel they can act on it? Chicken and the egg.

Lou Thesz vs. Ray Gunkel 2/3 falls for the NWA World Heavyweight Championship. MAY. 30, 1951. - YouTube

Some people say Dusty stole his act from Siki but they likely would have never been in the same place at the same time. (He more likely "borrowed from Thunderbolt Patterson)

I really don't follow hip hop so all the deviant stuff was kinda news to me. I mean I can imagine that a rap star would have sex and drugs at parties but I would have assumed you normal rap/rock star stuff

as I catch up on these reports. 1 yes the announcers can't see the backstage stuff. and 2 they not only taped multiple episodes at once but apparently taped stuff out of order

Son of Havoc is known outside of LU as Matt Cross Also forewarning to anyone watching this for the first time but a certain high profile speaking out character shows up in season 4 I've felt with all the streaming services today, someone should certainly try something similar (doesn't have to be sp00ky luchadores) but build a set on a sound stage and do some taping with a live audience. Your new take on studio wrestling, there's enough indy talent out there especailly with everytime AEW and WWE release people

Was thinking about doing a watch along but don't know if I'd be able to keep up. As for bookers Christopher DeJoseph is listed as "writer" and Chavo and Vamprio (under his legal name) are listed as "producers. So I'd assume they are doing something like agenting

Did you find the French interference to be a tad overbooked?

Verne Gagne v Lou Thesz | NWA World Title 01/25/1952 - YouTube

Always amazed how dominate Jones was with all the chaos constantly swirling around him outside the cage

I'm on record as feeling 80's Beefcake is underrated

Great WWE tag match or Greatest WWE tag match?

I personally think S4 gets bit of a bad rap. Sure its a come down from the heights of Mil Muertes and Prince Puma and feels like "who we got that can make the show?" but I felt it was leagues better the endless Hogan promos and Russo booked crap of late period WCW, or the Kiss my ass club and horrible creative of mid-aughts WWE Re Chavo: is his story basically Hamlet in Wrestling? Fakes going mad to mess with his Uncle (Such as the Eddy trap consisting of a box with a string and a burrito) only to actually lose it?

https://www.espn.com/boxing/story/_/id/45607153/jake-paul-tops-julio-cesar-chavez-jr-improves-12-1 Jake Paul picked up a win over JCC Jr, in a fight I was unaware of even though it was maybe 15 miles from my house

I'm excited for this. I watches about 2.5 seasons of LU on Netflix and then all of it on TUBI during the pandemic so it will be fin to go through again. Lucha Underground is made by wrestling fans from Hollywood. So they "Wrestling Larry Sanders show" works cause they actually know how to make a tv show. This is like what Vince was going for with his "room full of tv writers" forgetting that they needed to be wrestling fans first! Its also why this show is shot so so well compared to the ADHD cutting of Kevin Dunn. Also hiring an actual trained actor to play Dario was a stroke of genius. Funny watching SuperBrawl Revenge when Chavo smacked Rey with the chair I was like "Shades of Amigo!" The announcing; At this point in my life I've become so anti-Jerry Lawler that anything sounds good. (food for a starving man), If you've ever had a public speaking job you know its easy to feel like "Silence in the enemy" when in actuality its really good to let a comment breath sometimes. This is the problem in my opinion, Strike tends to talk things to death, try to make too many points. Women's wrestling; I'm on record as not being a fan of intergender wrestling. I'd much rather watch a well booked women's division (I'm actually a big fan of women's wrestling and thought for a period of time when the men's main events in WWE where all Suplex City and finisher spam the women's matches where much more enjoyable do to layout and execution). To my point LU has Io Sky, Kari Sane, Chelsea Green, Sexy Star, Ivelisse , Mayu Iwatani (it can be kinda fun to play who's under the make with LU) but by my recollection none of them wrestler each other! finally one hour wrestling shows. To butcher a quote from Lou Reed, One Hour is all you need, Two is pushing it, and with three now you've got Jazz (not the wrestler sadly)

I do think not having similar interference finishes in a row helps

Finally saw the new Wes Anderson film and I can't decide if I liked it or not. Not much of a plot, and what is there just seems to provide a reason for the performances. Certainly his most experimental film yet. (Like when Douglas Adams wrote Dirk Gently' Holistic detective service as a novel with out a plot, or The Big Lebowski as a character study where the plot doesn't matter)

So I found the Sting v Vader match on Facebook of all places. Remember when you said Scott Hall was a large man who was great at working small? I'd say the same thing about Sting. Some of his best matches are working underneath against Vader and The Giant.