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They're not talented?

You predicted a split decision? If you know how rogue judges are going to vote, you should be channeling your skills to monetary ends.

He may do, but that's not because of numbers, and you know better than to do that. In the last five years or so, he's lost to Gray Maynard (who he fucked up last fight), Josh Thomson and Bendo at LW. I love the scary former Soviets, but Trujillo and Healy are not championship calibre. Record schmecord.Nurmagomedov would probably beat Diaz, but that's more because he'd throw him around like Soulless Rory did at 170. Not because Diaz is 7-4 against the elite. His record is shite, and he probably isn't interested in fights that will make it worse. That was my point. If you insist. I doubt both that he's bothered about his record at lightweight and that he looks for fights that aren't challenging. Even dudes he immolates like Maynard and Cerrone are dangerous fighters.

He may do, but that's not because of numbers, and you know better than to do that. In the last five years or so, he's lost to Gray Maynard (who he fucked up last fight), Josh Thomson and Bendo at LW. I love the scary former Soviets, but Trujillo and Healy are not championship calibre. Record schmecord. Nurmagomedov would probably beat Diaz, but that's more because he'd throw him around like Soulless Rory did at 170. Not because Diaz is 7-4 against the elite.

Fair point, just curious, especially as Pitchfork had it in their 'Best of' list, but I totally understand. It's in Fact's list too.

Ah, Mis Teeq! I loved their pop-garage songs.

I'll be shocked and disappointed if Cruz doesn't get obliterated by Renan Barão.

I would agree, but they've been peddling that for four albums now, to diminishing returns. How does it compare to that first Glassjaw album?

That tune is pretty fucking cool. More Bloody Panda or Khanate to my ears than Neurosis, but that's not because of the vocals (have you heard Enemy of the Sun?). Unsure what “I don't like a lot of metal.” is supposed to mean in that context. I love the hell out of Enemy of the Sun, even though most of the time I'm in absolutely no mood to hear it. So maybe it has sections like that and I've forgotten. With the "don't like a lot of metal" comment, what I was implying is that I appreciate sound and compositional nuance (namely dynamics and the use of space as its own accent) more than musicianship. I've got no taste for the technical/melodic death sound which seems to be the bulk of the metal that's getting pimped around the here and places like rateyourmusic. I respect the musicianship, but it doesn't do anything for me emotionally or mentally. Although I like that new Carcass record alright. It's just not because of the musicianship. *nods* I hear you. Not convinced I agree, but I understand. For most of last decade, metal was about the dynamics over the virtuosity - Neurosis, Isis, Pelican, Mouth of the Architect, Kayo Dot, sunn(o))), Boris, Jesu, The Angelic Process, Nadja, Corrupted were all ruling the roost just below the mainstream. Maybe people here like the musicianship aspect of metal, but I've not noticed that in metal per se. Carcass are only about musicianship as far as you need to be really good to play those songs, but not in the sense of 'listen to how well we play!'. They're not Meshuggah or Cynic. But yeah, as we largely agree, I won't bang on any further. In terms of Neurosis, off the top of my head stuff like 'Cold Ascending' and 'The Time of Beasts' are that spacious and dirty. They're amazing and raw, and a million miles away from the polished blah-ness of their last decade. Back on topic, I finally listened to that Dillinger Escape Plan album. I may as well not have. Standard Greg-era shoutshoutshout-crooon stuff, with the standard unimpressively technical riffing (and we come full circle!). The noisy stuff hasn't moved on since 1999. The melodic stuff is still tacked on and gimmicky. Shit or get off the pot. They're the Pennywise of this generation.

Blimey, I didn't see it. To the [television set where I can watch it]!

He's pretty much the pick. I'm not sure how Mighty Mouse could even qualify, given that he started the year as champion, and just kept winning. Are you suggesting he has come back from a bad reputation?

I think DREAM 18 was a last hurrah, though Glory had a (kickboxing) show in late Dec 2013 in Tokyo. And it had (and didn't broadcast) Sergei Kharitonov vs Jerome LeBanner! So not too far off.

That tune is pretty fucking cool. More Bloody Panda or Khanate to my ears than Neurosis, but that's not because of the vocals (have you heard Enemy of the Sun?). Unsure what “I don't like a lot of metal.” is supposed to mean in that context.

'AMAGOV!'

Man alive, Waitresses didn't come til post 20? That's sad. Am I allowed Prokofiev?

I see myself watching that about 1000 times. Amazing stuff.

No! He's my current favourite former soviet terror.

Procuring the Flaming Lips and Deafheaven now. I got the Dillinger album when it came out, but I still haven't listened to it. It's funny how SturmCRF and I both love that band, but differ so massively on them. How an album can be pimped as 'best since Miss Machine', while I think the two they did after that were way better. That said, 'Setting Fire to Sleeping Giants' is probably the best thing they will ever do. What did El-P do last year? I used to love him when Def Jux was new, but he seemed to stop existing for me about a decade ago. The Chicago place, or have you found a new haunt?

Ooh, I liked that a lot! Try this, ya fucks. I'm back!

I'm good for a 20-25. When I was younger, and doing music message boards/slsk, I could do 100, but honestly how much can you care about number 73 of a given year?

Not only 20 seasons, but that many in such a short space of time. The show only started about eight and a half years ago. They've well and truly raked over those coals.

He does have that ability to swarm without getting too reckless. It's quite something. Anderson is definitely good for that, and Erick Silva. Donald Cerrone, when he wins, tends to do it impressively. Cain, in non-JDS matches, tends to dot the 'i's and cross the 't's, too.

Indeed. Were you to watch the Bonnar and Weidman fights without prior knowledge of each man's power/danger, I wonder if you'd react any differently while doing so. We know Bonnar was outclassed, and we know Weidman can knock people out. But, until the very final seconds of the fights, they are quite similar. That's all I'm getting at in terms of Silva's reactions. In terms of Silva's 'lack of success early', that first round was eerily similar to R1 of Sonnen II. Silva came out for R2 in that match ready to put his opponent away. I doubt he'd have been all that shaken up by the fact that Weidman was harder to hold close and neutralise. Or maybe you're right. Maybe that's exactly what it was: Silva used that first round to test Weidman's strength. He didn't like what he felt, so he got back up ASAP (footlock escape). Maybe Weidman's top game is stronger than Sonnen's, and so Silva didn't feel as in control. I'm just not convinced how upset he'd have been about that fact, given that he got back to the feet where he's comfortable anyway.

The first three minutes of that fight were worrying. The easy takedown (in hindsight reminiscent of Chael's round 1 in their rematch), the ground and pound (hardly Vovchanchyn, but you never know what will get through), and the sub attempt.The last two minutes of that round were Anderson clowning Weidman on the feet, and Weidman oddly not going for another takedown. Start of round two. Anderson is comfortable. Weidman goes for a takedown, which gets nothinged. I think the KO was the first time Weidman hit him with strikes in R2. Until that point, it was looking like Chael 2 or the Bonnar match. Weidman actually looked a little befuddled at the end of the first. I imagine Weidman will be better yet for the rematch, but it's hard to see Anderson losing if he takes it seriously, and uses a similar strategy to the Marquardt or Okami fights. We saw completely different fights. See, to say a guy is "clowning" someone he kind of needs to actually be doing something and not just looking like a dumbass. To say Anderson was comfortable is the opposite of how it looked to me. Anderson landed virtually no strikes the entire fight and was completely frustrated by the start of the second round. I think you're right. We did see different fights. Looking at Silva's external behaviour, if he was frustrated, then he must also have been frustrated in the Bonnar fight. His actions (moving himself against the cage, gently outgrappling his opponent, acting disoriented) were the same in both fights. Silva didn't really land anything of note against Bonnar before going in for the kill, or the fight would have been over sooner. I'm unsurprised by the 'virtually no strikes' for the first few minutes (especially when he's on his back for half a round), because that's how he always plays it before going in for a very quick kill. Against Weidman, he just clowned a bit too long, played himself, and got killed.

The first three minutes of that fight were worrying. The easy takedown (in hindsight reminiscent of Chael's round 1 in their rematch), the ground and pound (hardly Vovchanchyn, but you never know what will get through), and the sub attempt. The last two minutes of that round were Anderson clowning Weidman on the feet, and Weidman oddly not going for another takedown. Start of round two. Anderson is comfortable. Weidman goes for a takedown, which gets nothinged. I think the KO was the first time Weidman hit him with strikes in R2. Until that point, it was looking like Chael 2 or the Bonnar match. Weidman actually looked a little befuddled at the end of the first. I imagine Weidman will be better yet for the rematch, but it's hard to see Anderson losing if he takes it seriously, and uses a similar strategy to the Marquardt or Okami fights.