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re: Bret Hart's WCW run if Hart would have been brought in as an actual babyface, not a depressed 'maybe he's nWo' mopey guy, that would have worked. if the Starrcade '97 main event had been more definitive... if Hart would have staved off copious nWo interference.... if there was an actual fast count that he stopped.... if Hart would have been given something to do besides an old-timer's feud with Flair ("i'm the best ever. no, i'm the best ever.") then that would have helped. if Hart would have been brought in as an actual heel, instead of being a second rate nWo hanger-on, that would have worked. if he would have screwed Sting (or Zbyszko. or DDP. or Luger...) then he could have played that 'too evil for WWF' angle and it would have helped. That's a lot of IFs. But neither of those are what happened. Hart is a good enough performer that either one could have been successful. But the wishy-washy presentation, along with no meaningful angles or feuds, really doomed him early. And that's not even counting that his personal interest in wrestling was at an all-time low (and his disdain for WCW only continued to grow). And also discounts that the established WCW Main Event Mafia crew did not want him there, as it potentially lessened their spot. WCW took a surefire win and did everything possible to turn it into a loss.

my favorite player growing up was Ryne Sandberg. i was enamored with his 2B playing. later, he became a coach for the AAA Iowa Cubs. I got to see them play during this time. i don't remember the reason, but he came out and argued with the home plate umpire. Threw his cap on the ground, wild arm gestures, kicked dirt, all that noise. It was my highlight of the game.

whoever changes the name back to the "Devil Rays" gets my vote.

i thought that Kingpin had to stay TV-only due to the movie rights being elsewhere.

they should introduce cincos titles, just to piss everyone off

HEMME – Where Are You Don't Give Up (3:31) Footprints (4:03) I Am (4:21) Enough (4:07) https://open.spotify.com/album/5In7t1wWWLymHdNI4sVGjg https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Cdxk_ICVhWA&list=OLAK5uy_lPvv8ISKX4TPDTBheFhUZUk71402WhCDQ Ring Introduction: Released in 2009, This is Christy Hemme's 2nd attempt at a band under this name. The first posted five original songs on their MySpace page. An official release never materialized, and three years later this EP shows up with an entirely different lineup. The Match: “Don't Give Up” feels empty. Hemme tries to give off a Gwen Stefani (post-No Doubt) sound, but falls flat. The backing band is competent, but they're playing a simplistic pop-punk sound, so it is what it is. Feels pretty repetitive, rather than catchy to me. I don't hate this, but it's very average. “Footprints” veers more into soft '90s alternative sounds. I think the song is better for it. Hemme has decent range and a pretty good control of her voice. “I Am” goes another range again, this one led by Christy doing more traditional singing, with a pop-influenced classical sound behind her. I guess what i'm saying is a fairly bland soft rock song. It wasn't bad, but not really my cup of tea. “Enough” is another, you guessed it, soft rock song. It again sounds fine. The Finish: If you're after an inoffensive soft rock album with one track that tries to be a hit single, then I guess this is as good as the next one. Christy always presented herself as a hard rocker, so I was expecting more out of this. More tempo, more rock, more attitude. So i'm going to top this one out at two ringbells out of five. Bonus Track: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uFlJu2R0Ur4&list=RDuFlJu2R0Ur4&start_radio=1 this is “Dirty” from the original lineup. This is a pretty rough sounding recording, but the music sounds tight enough. Christy's vocals aren't as good as they are with the actual released material.

this is the kind of info i am here for. and the end result was indeed surprising.

when would Mistico vs Dean Malenko even have happened? EDITED TO ADD: my dream footage they could find/upload would be anything from the WCW Pay-Per-Listens back in '98/'99. Would love to see video footage matched up with the internet broadcast audio.

i don't know that i'd put Mase along with any of those 3 guys. i remember him being pretty decent (with the caveat that i haven't listened to him in probably 20 years) but yeah, in that Hot Ones appearance DJ Khaled was bitch made. edit: i've been listening to Mase's 1997 album "Harlem World" this morning. it's less good than i remember. Mase has a pretty unremarkable flow. He's definitely not as bad as Master P or Khaled tho.

i'd rather see them in separate matches. Give Athena a high profile win (Bayne?) and put Rosa in some sort of gaga match.

they're saving that first set for when they bring Kerry Morton in.

he only has a handful of matches on TV as Graffiti (and one under the name "Jim Richland" for some reason) but they were all pretty fun.

it sounds like they DID ask, and Fox said he was taking care of it. Now, should they have done their own check? Yeah, maybe, but I'd guess Fox believed there were no issues (or minor enough that he could clear them), but the issues turned out to be bigger.

this Dynamite was fucking awesome.

IT'S NOT THE SAME! (p.s. i have this audio clip on my mp3 player because i love it so much) https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6TLo4Z_LWu4&pp=ygUYdmFuaWxsYSBpY2Ugbm90IHRoZSBzYW1l was out karaokeing with some friends a number of years ago. they put in Ignition, but the people play the original (non-remix) version. it sounds absolutely nothing alike, and the words were coming up on screen somewhat off-time. Luckily, said friends knew every word and weren't deterred, as the sang the entire song with no issues.

we've seen heel authority figures strip popular faces of their theme music before. i don't recall specifics, because it's usually a one-off (or extremely short term) but i don't see the benefits really. you want that audience pop.

you might get lucky and find some of them on the wayback machine (https://web.archive.org/web/20230921103431/https://www.blogtalkradio.com/segunda-caida). i randomly tried a couple and they wouldn't load, but maybe? i tried looking at a few other places and came up empty.

The Starrcade match vs. Piper is the most egregious of this. there was EXACTLY ONE mention that the match was non-title. i don't remember for sure, but i believe it wasn't even on Nitro, but a throwaway line on Saturday Night. also relevant to note that Luger's title win was on the 100th episode of Nitro, which was also the first 3 hour edition. Only to undo it at the next PPV.

my two favorites: from the Big Lebowski, "this is what happens when you find a stranger in the Alps!" from Mallrats, "all it took was a fat chronic blunt karate punch!"

re: F13 i'm with @Technico. Fuck #5 because it has no Jason. although it feels like they tried really hard to still make it good. i wish they had brought that level to the other films. i know it's not popular, but i really enjoy #7. maybe it's my predisposition to superpowers, but i love this one. i also really like Manhattan, but maybe that's because he punches dude's head clean off. Goes to Hell makes no goddamn sense and i refuse to count it. also FUCK JASON X. saw it in theaters. hated it. saw it a few years later doing a big F13 watch. hated it. saw it a couple years ago on another F13 watch. still hate it, although not as passionately as before.

i can't lie, i'm actually very excited for tonight's show. Won't be able to watch live, but can't wait to check it out. AEW in Arena Mexico is such a cool moment.

wild that TMZ just won a credibility contest. same. i'm sure it won't take long and we'll get into a rousing convo about something soon. this thread will find its level. i'm good with this thread with or without the WWE content. In the short term, i'll probably check out that other thread, but over time it will lead me to knowing even less about modern day WWE than i do now (and i don't know much now!)

Love: Andrei Arlovski, Fedor Emelianenko, Max Holloway, Rampage Jackson, Jiri Prochazka, Kazushi Sakuraba, Ken Shamrock, Wanderlei Silva, Babalu Sobral, Oleg Taktarov, Miesha Tate Guys that i really loved, but only for a short period of time: Renan Barao, Karo Parisyan, Bigfoot Silva Hate: Frankie Edgar (sorry Natural!), Josh Koscheck, Conor McGregor, Tito Ortiz, Luke Rockhold, Ronda Rousey there's lots of other strongly dislikes: Colby Covington (his gimmick is so transparent that i find it cringe as opposed to hating it), Germaine de Randamie (after the WFW title debacle), Matt Hughes (his outside the cage antics are disgusting but i respect what he accomplished), and Rousimar Palhares (for obvious leglock reasons), and of course the guys like War Machine.

goddamn it. you are correct, of course.

Garbrandt has the absolute lowest fight IQ i have ever seen at the top level. Dude had bricks in his gloves, but also bricks in his head. If he got baited into a brawl, he lost every time. yeah, i agree that it should be legal. but i think a lot of things should be legal- soccer kicks, stomps, knees, 12-6 elbows, hell i would hear an argument for headbutts.