John from Cincinnati

I don't recall whether or not she's retained memories from the copies of herself dropped throughout the time stream. Damn. Now I'm going to have to watch that episode again. That's... absolutely awful. Just the sort of paradoxical manure I'd expect from Moffat. Really shitty stuff. I'll prepare myself for the likelihood that we end up seeing this played out on screen.

You were saying? One night doesn't break a guy. Besides, it's blessing that Wyatt is perceived to be credible enough to put Cena over like that. That wasn't a de-push.

Depends. Jericho going from Undisputed Champion in the main event of WrestleMania to missing Backlash to losing to a rookie at Vengeance and tapping to an elderly Ric Flair at SummerSlam seems pretty glaring. Booker coming in strong with a SummerSlam main event against Rock and then falling off the face of the earth after the Alliance is also worth consideration. Do we consider people who never passed the "test?" Surely DDP's sharp fall after his angle with Taker enters into the discussion.

I was starting to get pissed at Moffat's existence. Then he mentioned Gatiss, and it occurred to me that the Moff probably only keeps that bastion of mediocrity around to make himself look better. Brilliant!

Full disclose, seeing as I'm new here: I've gotten myself less and less invested in WWE's booking foibles over the last few years, taking the stance that very little of what they do matters or moves the needle. I suspect my apathy simply makes me look more positive in the face of the constant negativity. If I cared enough to really take an interest in WWE's booking and examined it like the perfectionist I can be in other areas of my life, I'd probably lose my mind. For me, it's the CM Punk problem: No reason caring about WWE if they don't care. Nothing wrong with hashing things out, obviously. Wrestling discussions can be fun. I simply know I enjoy wrestling more if I keep myself from travelling down certain rabbit holes. You're just fine. This is a me problem. I feel like I'll look at this post in the morning and feel like Kurt Angle after a night of vigorous tweeting...

Why is the story that WWE's hand got forced? They listened to the audience which is what we all wanted. They stuck the landing at Mania. Forget their record. Why do you need to frame the issue in a way that takes that victory away from them? They got that one right. And have been getting it right with the Shield. And in spite of how much the Wyatt's have cooled off, the amount of time they get and their placement on the card suggests that the Powers That Be still see great things for them. Cesaro petered out (a result of miscasting or a lower ceiling than most smarks see for him) and they continue to see nothing in Ziggler (a point of view I tend to share), but they've still been handling their business a lot better recently than you're giving them credit for here. They'll never win them all. But they're not as bad as you're making them out to be. The story is that WWE's hand got forced because typically, getting over with the crowd doesn't seem to matter if the office isn't interested in strongly pushing you. This has happened multiple times with guys in the past decade or so beginning with RVD in 2001. We can list a number of guys that they didn't really push very strongly when the crowd was ready for it (or worse, de-pushed when they got hot). Their odd de-pushes of hot wrestlers as some weird test for their wrestlers isn't made up by fans that just love to hate. They also tend to go in their own pre-conceived direction rather than paying attention to the audience, which is why the audience being particularly vocal by the beginning of January was so striking - this time, I guess fans weren't going to put up with a de-push for Bryan. In the end, do I care how WWE gets it right? Not particularly. However, the original conversation was sparked by Gregg, whose optimism I love but whose sometimes blind belief in WWE's approach to building wrestlers and feuds I find confusing, saying that fans just love to hate on WWE and that many fans think they could do better. Well, yeah, but that's only because fans actually pay attention to what other fans seem to want. You bring up Ziggler right now. I don't particularly like Ziggler either, but it's pretty clear that the guy should at least be in the Edge role of "upper-midcarder that works as a transitional champ in a handful of instances" because the crowd buys him as that and clearly wants to see him do well. I won't be interested in it, but a bunch of other people will. I also don't think WWE is getting it right with the Wyatts. In January, they were very clearly ready for primetime according to the crowd's response to them. What sense does it make to then have Bray lose a feud to John Cena and have the Usos kill Harper and Rowan each week? That sort of booking is just objectively awful no matter what one thinks of the Wyatts. We'll see how The Shield's singles booking turns out. They want to force Reigns as the future champ when the crowd seems to want Ambrose. If in February, they're pushing Reigns into the main event, but the crowd gets vocal again about wanting to see Ambrose in that spot, we'll see if they change course again. It might take the crowd getting ugly at multiple shows to do it, but even if that works in this hypothetical situation, it shouldn't have to get that far. It likewise shouldn't have had to get that far for them to clearly set Bryan up to stand alone at WM. I'm not a WWE-hater at all. The only reason I said anything is that Gregg got over-the-top in his defense of WWE booking, though I should have ignored it because that's what Gregg does occasionally and he's simply a good guy with a lively fandom 99.9% of the time. While Gregg might get OTT in his defence of WWE at times, I find you're still being a little too harsh. It's still a bit too soon to indict the push of Reigns. Nothing about the booking of Wyatt suggestions they're de-pushing him. This Jericho detour has been poorly handled and Jericho's nowhere near as hot as they'd like him to be. But it's still indicative of the Powers That Be's commitment to the act. They should push Ziggler (barf), but as I said they won't ever win them all (yay!). I also think your being too harsh in decrying Bryan original direction as a de-push when he was still getting as much airtime as anyone in the fed. If Gregg is too forgiving, I think you represent those who are too hasty to judge. Of course I'm not sure why I'm speaking up. This conversation has been going on forever, and I've largely resigned myself to keeping out of it. My voice makes no real difference. I'm going to back away from my keyboard now. Otherwise, I know I'll let myself lose a few hours of my life over pointless wrestling discussions I've had countless times already.

Why is the story that WWE's hand got forced? They listened to the audience which is what we all wanted. They stuck the landing at Mania. Forget their record. Why do you need to frame the issue in a way that takes that victory away from them? They got that one right. And have been getting it right with the Shield. And in spite of how much the Wyatt's have cooled off, the amount of time they get and their placement on the card suggests that the Powers That Be still see great things for them. Cesaro petered out (a result of miscasting or a lower ceiling than most smarks see for him) and they continue to see nothing in Ziggler (a point of view I tend to share), but they've still been handling their business a lot better recently than you're giving them credit for here. They'll never win them all. But they're not as bad as you're making them out to be.

Is there any way I can express my hope for back-to-back wins for Jeff Daniels without coming off like an asshole?

Yep. He takes often-emotionally-fragile humans (who're only a small fraction of his age) on dangerous space adventures because walking in eternity can be lonely. Then some become weapons as an unintended consequence of his recklessness with other people. Rinse and repeat, because walking in eternity can be lonely. The Doctor ain't your boyfriend.

I feel the same way. Rewatched Asylum of the Daleks last night because I was in a Who mood. Self-destructing Dalek? Better push him into a room full of other Daleks. Daleks want to cleanse a planet with fire? Sure. "Everybody lives" can wait for another day. People seem confused about who the Doctor is.

I will take Trenzalre over the David Tennant visits every companion before he regenerates travelogue. I'm torn. Each was overwrought. I never did have the patience for classic Who. But based on my experience with NuWho, I'd say Eccleston-Tennant was my sort of regeneration. There's certainly something to be said for exiting the stage with (relative) grace.

Enjoyed Capaldi (because duh). Liked Jenna Coleman's character for the first time ever. Enjoyed the episode overall in spite of how over Moffat I am. Of course after Matt Smith's hour-long regeneration, I was going to consider ANYTHING a step up.

Adjusted for inflation, that spot goes to Superman: The Movie. As odessasteps said, box office shouldn't be the sole criteria under consideration. Still, I couldn't just sit on the sidelines while someone suggested a system which would exclude the greatest comic book movie of all the times.

Coming back for Mania did nothing for me. But I have nothing but good things to say about the Orton match, the ONS tag, and his SummerSlam match against Flair. I also enjoyed his Mania match with Edge, but not on the same level as the matches I just mentioned.

I got this confrontational lesson for the first time on a different board back at the beginning of 2006. I'm pretty sure DVDR was leaking. In '05 I was all about Angle vs Michaels until someone opened my mind regarding what a great run Rey and Eddie were having. Pretty sure that was DVDR leaking as well.

I understood that it was dropped because Foley's health problems were more extensive than he realized. Hmm. Still, I'm referring to the period between when that was dropped and Survivor Series 2012. Ambrose fell off the face of the earth for what felt like forever, occasionally emerging from the ether just long enough to go over Alex Riley in a dark match.

Unless one of you bought the APA "Always Pounding Ass" shirt, I doubt anyone tops my biggest wrestling t-shirt fashion faux pas. It's a real mystery why girls never paid attention to me in grade school.

I somehow tied Chris Jericho's Undisputed Championship reign into my final project in a high school sociology class. Remington Steele was also a focal point in that piece. I forget the finer points, otherwise I'd feel compelled to elaborate. Thank goodness. I've received better grades...

Is it just my imagination or does Colin Cassady lose a tonne of short, meaningless matches? You'd figure WWE would be all over a tall guy like him with above-average charisma.

I know I've mentioned it on here before, but this thread necessitates me repeating that I love 2014 RVD. And I also loved RVD in TNA.

I've participated in more exciting I quit matches whist seated on my porcelain throne. My gritting teeth have had some intense battles with my nearly-debilitating constipation. Why have those guys wrestle when we'd all be more entertained by time spent on repeat visits to Ms Shaw's house?

They never followed up on the favour Booker owed Orton for winning the best of seven series against Benoit. Since Orton would be involved with Angle at Mania, he should have arranged to lay pipe on Sharmell in order to throw Angle off his game and into a jealous rage. This would look almost dignified next to the exploitation of Eddie's death from around the same time.

http://www.wwe.com/inside/polls/where-is-dean-ambrose-poll Does piranesi work for WWE.com?