Cowboy Wally

I have been a fan of every version of WOW. I’m thrilled they got a syndication deal, and I hope it’s successful. McLane always hammers every angle into the ground as it’s happening in the ring. I wonder if he does that because he thinks the audience needs him to do it or they won’t get it, or does he do it so the audience thinks “I get it, Dave”, subtly making the audience think they are smart for getting the point without the announcer telling them. This almost certainly isn’t the case, because I used the word “subtle” and McLane in the same sentence, but that is the only way I can turn that part of his announcing style from a bug into a feature. His references to past wrestling greats “This may date me, but that’s an eye poke straight from the playbook of the Big Cat, Ernie Ladd!” is 100% a feature. I am looking forward to seeing Tessa, Twana “The Beast” Ferguson, and whoever else is on the roster. It will be neat to see what angles AJ comes up with.

Only odd thing I saw was Silva's attack of Lumbago(severe back pain) that put him in the hospital (very short time) in November.

I'm sure there's a thread where Tebow's merits and faults have been thoroughly dissected. I am in the "can play QB at the NFL level" camp but even as a Tebow fan, I see that there is a point where the circus factor outweighs the skill factor for teams. That's going to figure in where Sam is drafted and/or signed. Talent assessment can be cold-blooded, and that's not going to change for Sam because people like his story.

Couldn't agree more. Clubhouse chemistry could be disrupted even if everybody is minding their own business in the face of massive, constant media coverage.

Does anyone have any thoughts or info on Overeem training in Thailand? Sometimes a new camp and trainer can pay dividends.

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Some thoughts, now that we are (with any luck) at the point where the dumpster fire will start to burn itself out. #1 - As the aggrieved party, Martin gets to handle this however he wants to. Caveat - if his allegations turn out to be true. The evidence so far is predominantly in his favor. However, there's a lot of he said, he said going on. NFL investigators are investigating, Incognito's filed an official grievance and NFLPA is backing him up. I am as interested as anybody in seeing what else gets dug up. #2 As Martin gets to handle this his way, it's too bad so sad for the Dolphins that they have lost (possibly permanently) two starting offensive linemen,and suffered massive disruption. Better control over the locker room would have avoided this. #3 Because of the way Martin handled this, his chances of getting another job in the NFL are lessened dramatically. Maybe he doesn't care about that. It's his decision, but it doesn't look like other NFL clubs are looking to bring him in. I could be wrong on this, of course, and welcome any evidence to the contrary. Incognito's chances of getting another job in the NFL because of this are probably a touch lower, but not more than that. Teams that don't and never wanted him (thinking specifically of the Colts and Dungy's statement that Incognito was on their do not draft because of character list) still don't want him. Teams that would sign him are still there (with the possible exception of Miami). #4 As mentioned, Martin gets to handle it however he wants. The fact remains that there were other ways to handle it, ways that might have solved the issue and kept him on the team. I am not saying necessarily that, if things were that bad, Martin popping Incognito in the snoot gets everybody a happy ending, but that's certainly a possible outcome. Maybe a personal conversation in which salty sailor talk was used early and often, or a public statement that Martin wasn't going to take it anymore, and the next guy who tried something was going to regret it would have worked. It's all speculation at this point, but what's absolutely true is that Martin's professional lively hood is in more jeopardy with his actual course of action than it might have been otherwise. #5 Final speculation - Given that Martin is as big as he is, it might well be that he never got picked on prior to going to Dolphins. I have no idea how I would have responded to being picked on for the first time at age 23, rather than at age 6, and continuing into my early-mid teens. I think the people who are asking the question "Why didn't he just hit him"? are those who had to figure out what to do at a much earlier age, and whether or not it worked out for them. Kudos to the gentleman who came up with the thread title. It's gold. Cowboy Wally

Top 10 and bottom 5 for me. #1 Nick Bockwinkel vs. Wahoo McDaniel (8/28/83) #2 Buddy Rose & Doug Somers vs. Midnight Rockers (Cage Match) (1/17/87) #3 Stan Hansen vs. Crusher Blackwell (6/28/86) #4 Buddy Rose & Doug Somers vs. Midnight Rockers (8/30/86) #5 Buddy Rose & Doug Somers vs. Midnight Rockers (Cage Match) (12/25/86) #6 Crusher Blackwell vs. Bruiser Brody (10/21/84) (No DQ) #7 Stan Hansen vs. Sgt. Slaughter (Bunkhouse Match) (3/9/86) #8 Crusher Blackwell vs. Bruiser Brody (9/30/84) #9 Crusher Blackwell & Sheik Adnan Kaissey vs. Verne Gagne & Mad Dog Vachon (4/24/83) #10 King Tonga, Masked Superstar, & Sheik Adnan Kaissey vs. Crusher Blackwell & Sgt. Slaughter (Cage Match) (4/21/85) Bottom 5 #146 Crusher Blackwell vs. Kamala (9/28/85)#147 Nick Bockwinkel vs. Pat O'Connor (3/22/81)#148 Greg Gagne vs. Super Destroyer Mark II (5/1/80)#149 Verne Gagne vs. Nick Bockwinkel (7/18/80)#150 Wahoo McDaniel vs. Manny Fernandez (7/6/88) Ballot is in! Hooray! Now I can order the Lucha set!

Mean Gene did commentary for a good chunk of the first disk. As great as he was an interviewer, he was that awful as a ringside announcer. He sucked the joy out of more than 1 match. Good commentary was hard to come by, to the point where on the Jumbo Tsuruta matches, when they had GIANT BABA ON COMMENTARY, I was much happier and it added to the match, despite me not being able to speak a word of Japanese. Hearing the main announce teams shill for how AWA was world wide got really old, really fast. When you actually do tours around the world, you announce those dates, so that the people know that you don't just drive up and down interstate 75, and that you are, in fact, a WORLD Wrestling Federation. Stole that I-75 line from Honky Tonk Man when he did some guest commentary on RAW in the 90's. As to Blears noting that the referee was actually getting paid to stand very close to Martel & the Killer Tomato as they got up close and personal, forgive him. He's a wrestler and an announcer, and he used the tools at his disposal to convey the scene as he saw it. I can tell you that if Louis Armstrong was watching that match, he would have broken into "Wonderful World". Because it is!

My apologies if this has been posted before, but if there's a better photo of Ernie Roth out there, I demand to see it!

Grimmas said: " If anybody knows which matches I should reconsider, let me know." If I may be so bold, I would offer the DeBeers/Zumhofe as one to take a second look at. Certainly no great shakes but at least competent work by both men until DeBeers busts out what is I think the ONLY ENZIGURI on the set, and it is an awesome one to behold. It DESTROYS Zumhofe to the point where he's a limp dishrag and DeBeers gets the win. I think the finish keeps it out of the bottom 10. Your mileage may vary, of course.

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WWE just released Legends of Mid-South on Blue Ray and DVD. Looks like 13 of the top 150 made the set, including 3 of top 4 (No Murdock-Windham). No Murdoch or Chavo Guerrero at all. http://www.amazon.com/Legends-Of-The-Mid-South-Wrestling/dp/B00DBPBOYM/ Disc listings for the set are in the reviews. Also, there are some matches listed on the sets that have dates close to, but not exactly the same. Are these the same matches, or different from the same series?