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DECEMBER 2020 WRESTLING TALK.
NoFistsJustFlips replied to The Natural's topic in The PROFESSIONAL WRESTLING
But like, is current day WWE "the next level"? How come he can't have that same aura? NXT gets 50% of Raw's viewers. Do you think those people don't also watch Raw? Or that the half that don't watch NXT would automatically hate any presentation created by NXT? It's a weird disconnect. You have the minor leagues to get people ready for the major leagues, but then you make them completely start over in the major leagues and take away everything you taught them to rely on. The only true answer for the system to work is put the same vision at the head of both tables. If Vince hates NXT wrestlers' work / aura / presentation, then put someone there that creates the work / aura / presentation that Vince likes. (I mean I would rather vice versa, keep NXT how it is and give Triple H the head of creative on the main roster too but I digress). WWE is bleeding viewers. This isn't me shitting on anyone who likes it. There's still plenty of positives to get enjoyment out of it. The top of the women's roster kills it all the time. Reigns new character work is awesome. But this is eerily similar to 1994 / 1995 to me. Yeah there's some good shit like Bret Hart & Shawn Michaels on the shows, but you gotta sit through so much dumb TL Hopper / Aldo Montoya / The Sultan shit to get to it. They need a creative shake up that totally re imagines the product like the attitude era did. Like the rock and wrestling era did. Something so stark and different that it jumps interest. And I just don't think Vince has it in him. -
UPCOMING VIDEO GAME RELEASES (2020 & Beyond)
NoFistsJustFlips replied to RIPPA's topic in COMPUTERS & GAMES & TECH
??? I had no idea a Left 4 Dead sequel (kinda) was in the works. Hell fucking yes. Looks really fun. Now let's just hope I get a Series X by June lol. -
DECEMBER 2020 WRESTLING TALK.
NoFistsJustFlips replied to The Natural's topic in The PROFESSIONAL WRESTLING
Albert is the head of the whole system, he's got way too many responsibilities. They have like 100 people training at the PC at a time. Like 8 rings full of different classes. He's got to be able to be up to speed on all 100 workers' progresses and make sure everything is running smoothly. But the point is moot because you don't have to be a big guy to explain how to work like a big guy. I'm sure experience big men workers have a few more tricks in their bag, but any performer that understands ring work at a high level, like a Gulak or Pearce, can definitely explain the psychology of why a big man works how he should. Just like most big men could probably explain how to work like a small guy to green small guys. Working a match isn't a one person job. There's always at least two involved. You get a lot of experience and knowledge of styles that aren't your own just by planning a match. And picking the person's brain asking why they do it that way, ect. I bet Shawn Michaels could explain the ins and outs of why Undertaker does a lot of what he does during a match. I'm sure Undertaker could explain the ins and outs if why Shawn Michaels does a lot of what he does during a match. Regardless, this is fucking dumb. Keith Lee is a high end worker. Otis is acceptable for his spot on the card. Dabbo-kato & Dio have both been in the system for YEARS. If YEARS of classes haven't gotten it in their heads, I don't think one more is gonna do it. But whatever, Vince gonna Vince. They are all still main roster guys. They work Monday or Friday. But on Tuesdays & Thursdays they are also now required to show up at the PC and do classes. Which everyone not on the main roster already does Monday-Friday. It's less of a demotion and more of an insult. -
Richie could go. He was green but he had 'it'. I have no idea why they threw shade at him in the FCW doc, but he was def a hard worker. He just came through the system at a shitty time where they didn't want fire, they wanted 100 monotonous Randy Orton clones. If he came through the system any time other than when he did, and his body held up, his ceiling was at least high end Dolph Ziggler level on the main roster. Flirting with the main event, probably not THE guy, but consistent upper card.
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DECEMBER 2020 WRESTLING TALK.
NoFistsJustFlips replied to The Natural's topic in The PROFESSIONAL WRESTLING
There's def more than one time the office forced Cena into some media appearance or commercial campaign, but I'm fairly sure the specific example Punk was referring to was already mentioned. Under Armor wanted Shelton Benjamin for a commercial. WWE said no take Cena. Under Armor said nah we good and went on without a wrestler. -
@Andy in Kansashad the partial quote. But the full quote explains it more. Tony said he's never seen the show but it's one of his mom's favorites. And he went to Warner Media to ask for permission to use the name since they own the IP through HBO. So it actually was specifically based on GOT, and they got the proper permission to use it. Which already puts Kahn in the top 5% of the most intelligent promoters, since the other 95% would just use the name without getting the actual legal rights to do so lol.
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Loved the Sting debut. I too thought they were teasing Hobbs hitting Taz with the belt for how long the setup was taking lol. But pretty cool moment. The opening riff of his new music sounded familiar but it wasn't till Sting came out that I realized the first two notes are the same of his WCW theme. Slick. Not sure why there was fake snow falling tho lol. Maybe this is night king sting, and not crow sting. I'm not a fan of the Impact crossover stuff. Impact is a failed brand with nothing but stink on it, and I think the chances that stink rubs off on the AEW brand are high. Impact's women's roster is great. Their tag stuff is pretty good. But their main event scene is horrendous. And while D'Amore & Callis have done their best in righting the ship, it's just a waste of time. If the extent of the crossover is Callis as Keny's manager & Gallows & Anderson as his heavies, okay I'm cool with that. But AEW guys showing up on Impact brings the AEW guys down, not the Impact brand up.
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I'm pulling for an RG3 victory. The undefeated Steelers beaten by a washed up injury prone former Washington "franchise" turned multi year backup quarterback 6 days after the game was originally scheduled to be played is a 2020 story I can get behind.
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Cowboys vs Football Team is for a share of 1st Place in The NFC East. How dare you discriminate against them. First place is first place, 3 wins or not ?
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I can shed a little light on this, I've wrestled in WCW rings, TNA rings, WWE ring, & ECW rings (not the companies, just rings that originated there). -The WCW ring was the best feeling one of them all. They had 16 foot rings and 18 foot rings. But they were custom to WCW. They didn't bounce like a trampoline, but the bump was soft. The ropes felt like planks of wood, which was great to spring off of but would give a little when you hit them. I'd liken the bump to amateur wrestling mats placed on top of pillows. Solid impact, but lots of absorption. -The newer WWE rings bump pretty good (post 1998). But they are 20 foot and a little springy when you run. You also get tired taking 4 square feet more on every send off exchange if you aren't adapted to it. The ropes suck because they're real rope. They bend a lot and don't give you nearly the spring cable ropes do. Which means they break a lot more often than cable. WWE ropes are a little higher than any other brand as well, which is probably why extremely short dudes like Rey Mysterio find it more comfortable to rebound off the middle rope instead of stretching upward to hit the top rope right. -ECW rings are what transformed into Highspots rings and get sold to most indy companies these days. Cable ropes. Good bump. 18 foot by 18 foot. Very springy while you run tho. Now AEW decided to use the Highspots / ECW style ring but custom make them themselves so they could make them 20x20 like WWE. They get the benefit of a trampoline like landing, but running on it has to be hell on your knees. The extra 4 square feet means the boards are longer and bend more in the middle amplifying the bouncing effect that was already high on Highspot rings. There's no way bumping on this ring hurts more than a New Japan ring tho. New Japan rings are pretty solid. Like a full on platform with just an amateur wrestling mat. I think Kenny's complaint isn't that it hurts more per say, but that it's so springy that it bumps completely differently and you have to take the bumps differently because of it or else your landing can fuck you up. -Worst of all tho are the 6 sided TNA rings. For fuck's sake man. Bumping in that felt like bumping in an empty parking spot. No give what so ever because of the extra tension from a hexagon shape. No bounce. No give. I'd rather take a suplex on the god damn floor. The ropes were also so god damn tight hitting them felt like it was going to slice through your torso. Awful.
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One thing everyone seems to be missing here, not all characters are the same. You don't book John Cena like you book Rey Mysterio and vice versa. Darby should not be this unbeatable undefeated super athlete. That doesn't jive with his look or his gimmick. For him to remain a feisty never say die underdog, he has to lose some. You can't book Darby like Omega or Moxley, because then he's not an underdog anymore. And that wont jive with how the structure of the matches he works will be laid out. Now I'm not arguing the sentiment here tho, it was probably short sighted to make his first time out as champion a loss. But it's not that big of a deal. Because he's not someone that should be dominant. He also took a top rope version of a top of the card main event heel's finisher. So it was a loss, but a protected one. Building up to him beating a near unbeaten Cage is going to help him more than just randomly beating Cage during a tag match that means nothing.
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NOV 2020 WRESTLING DISCUSSION
NoFistsJustFlips replied to Dolfan in NYC's topic in The PROFESSIONAL WRESTLING
The stadium they're moving to is a dome. So no weather issues. Just a large cavernous 40,000 seat empty dome filled will 100,000 video screens. ETA: Oh shit this was about AEW not the Thunderdome. My bad. Your point makes a lot more sense now. -
Not sure if serious? lol A cleaner is a hitman. When people say go full cleaner they want him to go back to his full on heel gimmick when he was the hitman for the Bullet Club. Dark shades, leather jackets, jet black dyed hair (that part isnt gonna happen), more serious and shit. He's kinda been this aww shucks silly babyface in AEW. Still presented as a threat in the ring obviously, but people want his more focused New Japan presentation.
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Oh and since @TheVileOnedidn't know why the Tyson match was dropped, he signed on for a big money boxing exhibition vs Roy Jones Jr. He was originally going to work a match with Jericho at All Out but had to back out to go into training for the November 28th fight.
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Obvious troll is obvious. lol just kidding. Yeah I think he backed out because WWE was adamant he'd have to fully train like a full time wrestler for a few months and put all his time and effort into it. WWE can be pretty stubborn about doing things their way. I'm fairly certain AEW takes the opposite approach with him. Hey dude just show up and we'll work around any limitations you have. We'll put you with Cody, he can create motion around you and make it easier. No training requirements, just a match and a payday. Ah yes, let's not forget the gold standard of celebrity appearances, Mike Tyson in 1998. The first appearance of which had Mike Tyson in a sky box at The Royal Rumble talking about his favorite wrestler "Cold Stone". It was later on that he had that sweet pull apart. You'll get no argument out of me, that segment sucked ass last night. Jade's promo is one of the worst promos ever in wrestling. But that doesn't spell doom for the whole idea of it. Comparing PacMan Jones to Shaq is like comparing The Barbarian to The Rock (but they both have THE in their name!). Comparing TNA to AEW is also real dumb. AEW is profitable. AEW has professionals in a marketing capacity. AEW is connected to a national sports franchise. TNA was connected to a barn in Nashville with no professionals working PR. I loved the Brandi promo. It's not my place to comment on code switching. I understand that complaint and would agree with anyone that feels that way. But I did like her coming out 0 to 60 tearing into Jade. That was the only fucking pulse that lame ass segment had lol.
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Rasslin' Video Games
NoFistsJustFlips replied to Technico Support's topic in COMPUTERS & GAMES & TECH
Yes. But allow me to suggest one tweak: What if there were 3 or 4 moves per commentator that made a talking head pop up like the TOASTY thing in Mortal Kombat? Hit a Superkick and Excalibur's head pops into frame yelling Superkick Party. Falcon Arrows Excalibur yells she's / he's done the deal. Give all of them a few. Even Taz. You get a little bit of that flavor from TV, but like you said, we don't need full on commentary and it usually takes away from the game. Just a nod to video gaming history while doing something innovative for a wrestling game. I so want the character screen to be like Revenge where everyone is placed under their faction. The Dark Order. The Inner Circle. Being The Elite. The Nightmare Family. Kingston & The Fam. Also give me the announcers as playable characters. And managers. And randoms. Like an updated AKI Man, The Jaguars Mascot, Kenny's Cleaner girls, Tony Kahn, Conrad Thompson, The Rock n Roll Express, Gangrel, Hurricane. The more like No Mercy this is, the more IN I am lol. -
Rasslin' Video Games
NoFistsJustFlips replied to Technico Support's topic in COMPUTERS & GAMES & TECH
I would think since they said this game is still very early in development, not to expect it until at least Q4 2021 or even 2022. So the roster cut off wouldn't be until probably spring or early summer of 2021 if that's the case. -
Rasslin' Video Games
NoFistsJustFlips replied to Technico Support's topic in COMPUTERS & GAMES & TECH
They showed the brief 2 second clip of the Meltzer Driver in the create a wrestler looking mode. Just imagine the No Mercy engine being Rey Fenix (and this should only be Fenix) being on the turnbuckle and being able to run across the top rope and intercept Nick Jackson with a Cutter. But only if you time it right. Or being able to counter FTR doing The Shatter Machine with a running grapple Reverse Rana. Or giving Darby a unique reversal system like they gave the MMA guys because he's so quick. So much potential. The n64 engine is by far the best engine and nothing in the last 20 years comes close. Just picturing what could be. Doing Unsanctioned matches with ridiculous weapons. The ridiculously high steel cage they used on Dynamite. Doing Casino Battle Royals (like the battle royal / royal rumble modes). Stadium Stampede matches. The Jaguars mascot as a playable character. Having the Hardy compound as a playable arena. lol I'm sure I need to temper my expectations, but it's pretty exciting. -
This frustrates me to no end. Golden Tate has been the ultimate gator arms receiver all season. On a majority of the catches he does have, he immediately gives himself up and doesn't try to get more yards. He's not getting the ball because he's mailing it in. He won't reach out if he senses a defender. He won't fight for yards. He's basically a waste of a roster spot and I can't wait until he's gone.
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AEW Dynamite - 10/28/2020
NoFistsJustFlips replied to John from Cincinnati's topic in ALL ELITE WRESTLING
Approximately zero dollars and zero cents. You Tube took professional wrestling off of the monetization list. I assume WWE & AEW still get monetization, but independent wrestling promotions don't. The change happened about 2 years ago. I remember seeing AIW talk about what a large chunk of money they were missing out on due to the new classification. -
Hell in a Cell XII - 10/25/2020
NoFistsJustFlips replied to Dolfan in NYC's topic in WWE PROGRAMMING
Yikes. Talk about a bad hot take. Name one Miz match that was as good as Punk vs Cena at Money In The Bank. The Miz is near the top of list of the most bland boring characters in a company full of them. And his ring work is even more bland. He's had almost no character progression in 10 years now. He's the poster boy for why today's WWE is ice cold. Punk was over with live crowds. Punk could work. Punk could talk. Punk had an aura. Miz is great at outside media. He's a pretty good promo when he's allowed to talk for himself (The Bryan stuff). But he's not good in the ring at all and he has ZERO aura. Could you imagine Iron Sheik vs Hogan being on top in 1994? Or Andre vs Hogan on top in 1997? Yikes. Can we rename The Thunderdome to The Hamster Wheel? Fits current WWE much better. Because they put these guys on a hamster wheel where no one progresses or gets hot and we end up in the same place over and over again. Case in point, Survivor Series this year is in the exact same building on the same exact date where Miz cashed in on Orton the first time. Riveting. -
Hell in a Cell XII - 10/25/2020
NoFistsJustFlips replied to Dolfan in NYC's topic in WWE PROGRAMMING
I liked Roman vs Jey last month a lot. I liked the end segment with the elders blessing Roman as the chief and really like the overall direction of his character and this story. But the match was basically the same exact thing as last month. Someone in an interview said last month was planned as a one and done, and it shows. Why just run the exact same match with basically the exact same ending? I liked the end result of the story. But you can tell WWE is already struggling with a long form story when story beats 2 & 3 are exactly the same thing. Hopefully they have something new for the character trajectory after tonight. Liked the Women's Hell In A Cell and thought it should have been the main event. Bayley vs Sasha always delivers. The rest of the show was short and boring as fuck. Miz & Morrison have Bossman heat with me. Otis has Bossman heat with me. Retribution have Bossman heat with me. Orton & McIntyre feuding have Bossman heat with me. Basically the whole show was a microcosm of why I'm so checked out on WWE these days. If I have the book, I'm sending Miz to NXT to cash in MITB on Finn Balor who is too injured to compete and forfits the title. The heat would be off the charts in the vein of Foley's anti hardcore run in ECW. Then when Finn is cleared he squashes the shit out of Miz and takes the belt back. Otherwise, we're just in a time warp to 2010 waiting for Miz to cash in on Randy god damn Orton again. NO THANKS. -
WWE had Wardlow in the sense they got a real good look at him and passed.... for some reason. He filmed a segment for the WWE Undercover Boss where he taught "Stephanie" to wrestle, but they cut it from the show. He still got a performance center tryout out of the deal. But they didnt sign him. A huge miss on their end in my opinion.
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Cody definitely comes off smug like a rich kid sometimes lol. But no, that would be WWE from my perspective. Cody grew up idolizing Dusty. WWE mostly shit on him, until his passing. Even when Dusty was a part of their team. They spent two decades mostly laughing at Dusty gimmicks and booking decisions in their documentaries. So Cody, who has so much pride for Dusty, is just a motivated kid trying to prove the ideas his dad originated are not as shitty as the big rich corporation has been telling you for 20 years.
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They let the majority of those names sit around collecting dust for 20 years. It's gonna be a hard task for you to get me to believe something you show no attention to for 20 years is something you give a shit about. Hell they didn't even use those trademarks when Dusty was still alive and heavily involved in NXT & the performance center. It's like WWE has this big toy box full of toys. None of them excite them anymore so they collect dust and don't get used. But the second someone else gets excited by them and wants to use them, all of a sudden those are their favorite toys and no one can have them and they always cared about these toys so so much. Sorry dude, but the rich kid toy box theory is gonna be hard for you to dispute lol.