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This weekend is a real indictment on those 'NFL is worked' people. The two biggest week 1 prime time games are a 40 - 0 disgusting blow out and the other has the biggest star of the off season leave the game after 5 plays. Even tho that catch just now was amazing and the game is tied, how many people turned the game off when Rodgers went out? Not very smart "booking".

The two that came with The Bunny & Keith Lee were just in the store to buy with your AEW cash. Didn't even need to beat story mode two more times to unlock them. So I've played two Stadium Stampedes and I have concluded that mode is some mindless trash and I'll never venture int there again lol.

Can't wait for the season to start next week. Hope The Giants don't look as bad in the season opener as they did in this final pre season game last night. *Checks notes* Fuck.

One of the Jokers said on a podcast they are classified as a reality show. Which means the network pays out zero royalties to them to re-air the episodes. Meaning it is DIRT CHEAP to air the old episodes, and any ad revenue made is straight profit for the network. So even if an ROH show pulled in 5x the ratings of a Jokers rerun, WBD would be paying for the ROH content. Thus losing money compared to airing the program that gets them the lower ratings. Welcome to TV network math, it's stupid lol.

There's only one version now. Siciliano did the DirecTV one but YouTube decided not to do their own version. Only one Redzone channel now and it's the Hanson one.

Punk being let go is the right call. I wanted it to work. I understand Punk is an unrelenting asshole to those he perceives as his enemies. But there's an endearing kind of quality to him that shines through sometimes when he's advocating for trans rights or women's rights, or advocating for his underappreciated friends like Danhausen & Brody King. There is good within him. And his mind and body of work were a real positive. But we hit a fork in the road when he broke his foot. He was mad at himself for his body screwing him over right when the rocket got strapped to him. He had time to sit at home and stew in his own anger. Being away from it no doubt he let his mind wander and started escalating. The throw away Hangman line probably ends up being a nothing if Punk doesn't get hurt. He moves on to his next thing and his mind doesn't linger on it. But he came back different. Bitter. Unhappy. And most of it was created in his own mind with the idle time away. Him throwing Page under the bus (and getting away with it) on live TV sealed his fate, even if we didn't know it at the time. We were on the road to drama starting that night. It sucks but AEW will be better off without him (morale wise). And Punk himself will be better off not having to drag himself through a miserable work experience (even if he's the one who made it misereble to begin with). If the fight with Perry really was so bad they were knocking shit over and fucking up pyro / putting staff in danger then Punk had to have known what he was doing. It's all kind of depressing in a lot of ways. In his head he was coming back for the right reasons. But the right reasons turned to the wrong ones in record time.

Well from a business perspective you don't want to give up market share. If you're a lapsed or casual fan and check the PPV guide and see Edge v Chris Jericho you might be more apt to purchase it vs seeing Adam Copeland v Chris Jericho. From the WWE point of view, why would you want to give the competition a single bit of extra fire power? Ultimately sometimes it doesn't matter. Hall & Nash did just fine without the Diesel & Razor names. But why chance it.

A couple of the suggestions in this thread for Gangrel to come in... he already did once. He teamed with The Young Bucks (dressed as The Hardys) for a Trios Match already. Think it was on Rampage. Bonus points for Cuttler dressing like Lita for that one too. So yeah he's already done a match for AEW, I'm sure he would come in for another one if they reached out. As far as a name for Edge, simplest and easiest way to avoid a lawsuit is to use his real name. Could get a clever little similarity if they had Chimmel do the intro similar to Rated RRRRRRR Superrrrrstarrrr but just call him The L...EDGE.... endaryyyyyy Adam Copeland or some shit like that. The reason Christian can use Christian Cage is because that was his ring name on the indys. It predates WWE. Even if Edge is a temporary lapsed IP for WWE, Edge would never get the rights to it. WWE created the name & character and would definitely oppose it. Sure, they didn't oppose Billy Gunn once that lapsed. But if it's a main event player going to the rival, they would certainly stop that from being possible.

Cosmic karma is alive and well, when one insane troll get's Cash'd a new one will appear and fill the power vacuum. Let's see what you got you weird angry man lol

Starks and Danielson went fucking in on that gimmick. That is by far the best strap match I've seen. Two dudes just saying fuck it I know you're gonna whip the shit out of me as hard as you fucking can right in the face but that's cool, bring it. Danielson also did a hell of a job working smart and not putting that arm in too much danger at any point. I can't put this match over too much. So good. Starks passing out is going to do so much more for him than a win would. Also think OC coming up short is the right call and he'll end up better off for it. Especially liked the way Mox did him a real solid with his post match shock / incredulous reaction like this fucking guy took me out to waters that deep, thaaaa fucck? Such a fun show. Joe vs MJF at Grand Slam (I assume) is gonna be dope. Starks looks like a star. OC looks like a star. Miro & Hobbs looked like stars. Not sure about all the weekly tv, but I can say for sure the PPVs are gonna be just fine. Over deliver city.

Do you mean scale back to weekly studio tapings and do stadium shows for every PPV? Taped vs live is a gigantic difference in drawing in viewers. Not running weekly towns would kill them dead in their tracks and turn them into current day Impact. Which YMMV on if you are entertained by them, but they make nooo money. Studio tapings are a thing that died on the vine 20 years ago. 3000 paying customers in new towns every week surely makes more money than 800-1000 of the same people over and over. And new towns = loud and excited. The same town over and over dont react as passionately. If they could fill stadiums on the regular, yeah that's a great plan. But I don't think they could sell out 4 stadiums in the US per year. I'd happily eat my hat if they tried that and it worked. 1 a year in the US I think they could pull off at this point. But they aren't there yet to try that for every PPV show.

Having people just sort of randomly show up on one of the two shows per weeks isn't the answer. I think a lot of people will tune out if they don't know where their favorites are going to appear. Like up until now if you liked Punk, FTR, BCGold, HOB, Hobbs, Andrade you knew where to find them. You would watch on Saturdays every week. If you are an Elite die hard, you know Wednesday is your night. If they go to the randomizing thing, if you're a Miro fan you have to watch both shows and hope he shows up on one. It's more time investment than some people are willing to put in. I think it would cause a lot of apathy and you're going to see both shows suffer. When Dynamite was the only show they had, you knew it was the important show. Once they started doing Rampage, Dynamite felt a little less special. And Rampage mostly tapered off and became an after thought. Adding in Collision, it at least felt special / different because you were going to get things the other two shows weren't giving you. Dynamite didn't lose anything, because it wasn't taking away from it. Now tho if it's 3 shows & 5 hours of everything being the same thing, it's all less special. It's diluted. Basically the idea I'm trying to get across is this: What is more fun to watch? Two separate 2 hour Marvel Movies that are different tones with different characters, or one 5 hour MCU streaming series that is all the same characters the whole time?

Ha talk about no market penetration. The NWA is not for the sea creatures it seems lol. Tyrus lost the title already. EC3 is NWA Champion now.

Love me some Danielson. But if he's not fully healed up this could be an all time panic fuck up.

I hate brand splits. But at this point a hard brand split would at least shake AEW up and make it feel fresh. Punk is gone. Collision is no longer the Punk & Friends show. It needs a real identity. I suggest they do a hard brand split. Shake a bunch of shit up. Break the BCC up (it's run it's course). Give some new gusy some chances. TK keeps booking Dynamite. Danielson gets Collision. (I say that because TK himself has said he loves Danielson's creative input). Make Rampage an ROH show. Fuck what WBD want, just do it. Let someone else book that. Someone random that isn't on the radar to make it totally stylistically different than Dynamite & Collision. Like Callis or Jarrett. Just continuing on this same path without Punk there seems like continued diminishing returns. There's a lot to like about AEW. But it doesn't really ever feel like anything important happens. Make some dynamic changes and try to ignite some anything can happen vibes. Shrug.

This comment from two hours ago... did not age well lol

Keith Lee has a fun move set. The Bunny doesn't have a very accurate face. Still happy to have them. Wish they could keep up with 2 new characters a month. But the price... sheesh. $12 for two characters and two mini games? I got them free with the Elite Edition. But aint no one spending that much for those two alone. The kick the shit out of MJF's car mini game is infuriating and I will never play it again lol.

I don't think many are going to agree with my opinion on this but I'm gonna give it anyway. This is pro wrestling. Stop treating this like working in an office. Now Brawl Out was an employee publicly degrading executives, the company, and escalating it into a physical confrontation with thrown chairs broken dog teeth and biting in front of AEW's legal department. That deserved suspensions and investigations. This situation, does not. This is a business full of physicality. Where on accident with no malice from someone you actually like you can have bones broken. This isn't selling insurance. This isn't stocking shelves at Target. Egos and adrenaline and politics and testosterone. Sometimes there's gonna be scuffles. And this is the literal definition of being over blown. Neither one should be suspended. Neither one should miss a PPV. Sit them down and tell Punk if you're in another physical confrontation, whether you instigated it or not you arre getting a mandatory 6 month suspension without pay (and time added onto your deal for it). Then tell Jungleboy if you're involved in another incident you're getting released. To me Jungleboy purposely went angling for this confrontation. So he gets the harsher consequences. But this one is so over blown. You don't want a working environment where you have to fear getting in a fight every day you show up. I get that. But not every little transgression needs a six month audit with legal. Their whole ass job is fake fighting that isn't as fake as it's made out to be. Of course there's gonna be some fights. Quit acting like every one needs to be this super scrutinized and investigated corporate HR dramatization.

Pretty much everything delivered for me, except Stadium Stampede. That was a mess. Bad camera work. Too much going on. Props not cooperating. Liked the finish tho. Man JR was especially bad here in his limited action. Being lost on who was legal in the BC Gold trios, then asking if Freddie Mercury was still alive. Glad he got the hook when he did. If someone could just get him to stop shitting on the product he'd be fine as an occasional special guest commentator. Sting & Darby vs Swreve & Christian was my favorite match. Sting just keeps over delivering especially at his age. Just well worked and a ton of fun. Jericho & Ospreay over delivered too. Minus the one ugly cutter by Jericho, he looked 20 years younger in this one. Bucks vs FTR was great but I get distracted easily and could not stop myself from paying attention to all those streamers stuck in the tron & invading the hard cam shot. Didn't like the ROH Tag Title match in hindsight. It was well worked, but I thought there was going to be a story purpose for it. But ended up mostly being pandering and played no role in the story. Main was solid. I enjoyed their Dynamite match more but still great story telling. I thought the women's match over delivered too. It had quite a few creative beats and ended with a feel good moment. Punk vs Joe was good shit. Especially the finish and the head breaking the table spot. Overall this show was mostly great. I'm a little surprised it was played mostly straight with no heavy handed building to All Out finishes or angles, but in a good way. They let this breathe and didn't make it feel like a setup show. The buys for All out will be interesting, as will the draw fir next year's All In. Will the novelty be gone? Was this a special perfect storm of their debut and it being special or can hey replicate this yearly?

Maybe people did want to sit down and express their love for him. Maybe less people actually wanted to in previous instances as well. I say it that way because it's kind of unfair to place the power of it at the talent's hands in either scenario. It's not like the office goes around backstage asking who would like to speak before they set the structure of the script. The talent don't have much say either way the office decides to go with it. I believe in the past they just filmed anyone that wanted to do it and they would insert as many as they could / wanted to. They made the conscious decision to not do any this time. We all have opinions on if that feels right to us or wrong. But they weren't giving the option this time due to the creative of the script. I feel confident going out on a ledge saying at least some friends and colleagues would have very much wanted to share their feelings and thoughts about a man they loved, if given the choice. Hope this doesn't read as my trying to challenge your thoughts on this one. This is one of those delicate subjects where there's no set in stone right way to think about it. I'm just speaking from how it feels to me and I realize that the way everyone else feels about it is just as valid.

Like I said my perception might be off. But where I am coming from isn't about ratings or the quality of what was shown. I just felt bummed and like Bray and his contributions were minimized compared to other wrestlers that have passed way too young. It was extremely jarring for me to see Grayson Waller coming out to his bright goofy tron dancing around doing his shtick and them pushing the Payback storylines so hard. Nothing I attribute to malice or blame WWE for. As was said either way you go with it there will be detractors. Damned if you do. I understand AEW and WWE are different companies so not apples to apples, but to me Brodie Lee's tribute show was the most moving of all. They let his friends say goodbye. They let his friends go out and do matches in his honor. You could feel the love for him. The entire episode was a celebration to his life, his friends, and his family. Social media was certainly around in 2020 so I don't see that as much of a factor. I'm just really sad. And could be misplacing those feelings. I feel like Bray deserved more but it's just one guy's opinion.

Listen. Maybe my perspective is a bit off here. So feel free to tell me if this reads like an over reaction. I felt like this was a let down in regards to a tribute to a fallen current member of the roster due to a tragic and (mostly) unexpected nature. The opening tribute and the close of the show were phenomenal. Bonus points to them for reaching out to Rowan too. Having Rowan & Braun there was a touching aspect of that open. But this episode rang hollow to me. They went right back to a normal episode of Smackdown and running angles and pushing Payback. Idk. To me this feels like an episode that should have been like the Eddie & the Owen & the Brodie Lee tribute episodes. Just a night of celebration and letting his friends say an on air goodbye. Them just playing a bunch of clips as if it was a DX 25th anniversary episode or something... I don't know. Just felt off to me. What am I missing? Am I alone in this feeling?

I get & agree with the sentiment that there's dozens of women I'd personally rather see. But sometimes there's things you can do like this to just make one of your performers feel loved. Like there's no reason they couldn't throw a quick 10 woman tag on Zero Hour. Wrap it around a captains gimmick where Emi does her deal and Mako Itoh does a dueling singing deal for her side. Like no, based on how Emi has been positioned on TV, it doesn't make sense to feature her. But sometimes doing that kind of thing just because boosts morale. Like people see that the people in charge just care and it makes everyone feel better about the place they work. Not meaning that to come of as a rant. Because I get it. It's hard to disagree with Emi not being on the show. But I also think a gigantic show like this there deserves to be a pre show get a bunch of people on deal for the men and the women. You have 2 title matches on the pre show already. Throw on a quick women's 10 person tag and a men's battle royal. Show the love to as many people as you can. And maybe they do announce two more Zero Hour matches on Collision. Who knows.

Fair play. It's not unbelievable that a certain type of individual could be acting that way. Still, I feel like that is out of character for what we know of Cash's personality. Now I'm well aware there are those that have a different public face vs their private personality. But there's not a lot of evidence Cash is the type that would be a wild man gunslinger just zooming around ready to intimidate (at the very least) randos with a Glock. The affidavit just strikes me as odd. The alleged victim was adamant he couldn't be late for work and made them meet him at a car dealership? I'm getting carny salesman type who recognized Cash and figured he could cash in with a wild story. But that's just conjecture and probably little wishful / hopeful thinking. I guess that's all for the courts to decide.

Reading that it says he pulled to the shoulder and passed while pointing a gun at him? Who drives with the gun in their hand? Who has it at the ready while speeding down the highway? When I saw road rage I had figured there was so some sort of altercation or incident. This reads dude saw a car driving aggressively then it passed him while the dude pointed a gun at him. Seems awfully hard to belive the statement as written.