Technico Support

End had a crazy good match with Chris Hero on PWG's April show ("Don't Sweat the Technique").

Great thread, guys. Even though I've been a fan since a little before the first Wrestlemania, I never paid much attention to match structure until fairly recently. I normally just zone out and watch the match, but a few months ago I watched Luger vs Michael Hayes from maybe Chi Town Rumble or something, watching it critically, and it definitely followed the simple structure of shine, cutoff, heat, comeback, finish perfectly. Now I see the formula whenever I watch any old wrestling. As for "won't the fans catch on?" The answer is definitely not, as the formula allows for a lot of variations. Sometimes one segment is longer or almost non-existent. Sometimes the face gets multiple hope spots and the heat isn't as strictly defined. Sometimes the heel is going to go over so there's barely any heat. Shit, I watched Barry Windham vs Brad Armstrong where the Armstrong took like 70% of the match, the short heat segment was just Windham slapping on the claw forever, then a quick comeback by Armstrong, and then Windham winning with......the claw. There is so much room for improvisation in this formula. But anyway, can someone elaborate on what exactly the current WWE style is? It definitely doesn't follow this pattern, so exactly is it? Oyogi explained it a little bit earlier but can someone please go more in depth? Thanks in advance.

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I remember listening to that. It was a rough one, with Steen discussing his son who is somewhere on the Autism spectrum and also talking about how he knew what he needed to do to get to WWE (get in better shape) but wasn't even sure if it was worth it. As a huge fan of the guy, I'm really happy to see it working out for him.

I know the Disciples of Death are supposed to have scary names but......Barrio Negro? I mean I guess some white folks are scared of black neighborhoods but that's pretty specific.

And then the baby will claim to have bodyslammed 1000 pound Andre the Giant to death and torn every muscle in his back in the process. Shit, I'm beating the wrong dead horse here.

Which ones? All I can think of are Drago vs. Pentagón Jr. which may have happened in LU but I can't remember, and Hero/Thatcher & Gulak/End which happened in Evolve over Mania weekend. Besides, does it matter? Hero vs Thatcher at PWG will be far different from their Evolve match, for example.

Wrestling is, was, and always will be a niche product except for the one time every 15 years when it bubbles up to the mainstream. Chasing people who don't like it and would only care about it if it looked like WWE's bright and shiny big top production is a losing proposition anyway. WWE is chasing off its own fans in droves with its bland offering. And come on. I've seen some bush league-looking venues. My favorite company only runs shows in a Reseda American Legion post, with 80s stereo speakers on the wall and a disco ball on the ceiling. ROH does not look bush league.

Moose is billed at 6'5" and 295, so he's probably legit 6'3 250 but still, there must be witchcraft at work as it's the only logical explanation for how someone that big can have a spear that shitty. I thought Terminal 5 looked very cool and "ROH's tapings look bush league" has gone from legit complaint to dumb talking point. Their lighting has gotten worlds better and their HD looks pretty swell. Meltzer saying no American fans will go for any wrestling that doesn't look like WWE is a pretty pointless argument, too, since only WWE can afford to look like WWE anyway. Besides, the way WWE looks is pretty bland and played out. I wish WWE would switch it up and shoot in different looking places, but that's KD for ya.

Troma has no time for that girl. His life, his love and his lady IS LUCHA.

Sort of. Also, Skyline was a pile of shit, while I enjoyed Battle: LA as "Black Hawk Down...with Aliens." It also holds the distinction of being the only movie in history that Michelle Rodriguez lives through. Yep, that's Movie Boxing for ya. It's nothing new, as we've lived through watching Rocky take 15 unprotected haymakers in a row while the ref stands there with his thumb in his ass.

On the car commercials tip, fuck every single Subaru commercial. What mechanic do Subaru owners go to in order to get their cars' "love" topped off?

Oh and I forgot to mention how eye-rollingly out of place the impossibly gorgeous Australian new inmate feels.

Scrolling right past Gregggg's posts is one of life's little pleasures.

NOOOOOO

Oh man I'm maybe 7-8 episodes in and NOTHING is happening. There's no really captivating major plot arc. "Piper's panty business" feels like it's something out of a different show entirely, especially her "rally the troops" speech. What the fuck? They're giving way too much time and plot to Crazy Eyes, probably because of her fan favorite status. "Oh, you enjoy this minor character? Well we'll ramp up her screen time 500% this season!" Either the show's creators 1) believe whole heartedly in the binge nature of this show and, thus, feel they don't need the standard serialization hallmarks and can treat the show like one 13 hour movie split into uneven parts or 2) they're way too pleased with themselves and feel they can do no wrong. Either way, this season is fucking baffling.

Of all the weeks for me to move and change cable providers to one that doesn't have El Rey. I hope I don't get introduced to Matanza for getting this show via other means.

Cool, I'll give the dude a second chance.

That all looks amazing, except for Galloway. I've seen his stuff in Evolve and he just bores me. Maybe I'm biased (like I am with Alberto) because he has the WWE style/WWE midcard stink on him. The Guerrilla Warfare match should be insane. Both members of Trevorette have proven they're ready to die for our amusement.

That's Eileen Whelan for the online stalkers out there

Trump/Hogan 2016

Is Bill Watts still alive?

(reads this post) "please call it the hogan dumpster fire thread oh please oh please"

I imagine all Vince has to do is send a text to Styles and Dunn that simply reads, "Benoit Protocol" and the scrubbing begins.

Hogan can use the n word because he is a person of color (that color being orange).