HumanChessgame

I kinda thought their gimmick was a meta-commentary on both the "brass ring" speech and the haphazard and neglectful way the WWE books the undercard in general and the tag division in particular...but I could be wrong... The two of them and Adam Rose were wearing these shirts at the Rumble, but something tells me that got nixed by the powers that be- http://ih1.redbubble.net/image.41513048.8518/fig,black,mens,ffffff.u1.jpg

Was Larry Zybysko ever actually any good? All I've seen of his work are a few highly unimpressive matches here and there on old WCW shows.

So was Adam Rose being allied with Kidd and Cesaro just a one time thing? It's too bad, I was hoping that would lead to him dumping his current gimmick and the Brass Ring Club becoming an actual stable.

My first exposure to Bigelow was in the WWF and I could tell he was a talented guy but never came off as a real threat. He was big and could move, but always got treated as a bigger than average JTTS. Then he showed up in ECW and was like a totally different person. I don't know if it was Heyman or not, but they really got him there and booked him like the (mostly) unstoppable monster that he had the potential to be. Even when he was putting Taz over he managed to make Taz look great without looking weak in the process. Then he went to WCW and, well, it was latter-day WCW. I think he and Mike Awesome are two of the biggest missed opportunities the WWE could have had post-invasion. Didn't Bigelow have issues with the kliq that really hampered him? I remember some guy on czwfans telling a story about him way back when- Apparently the guy was still a teenager working the concession stand at some indy card that was featuring Bigelow against some local guy in the main event. He had been told by the boss that everyone, even the wrestlers, had to pay for refreshments or it would come out of his pay. The local guy in the main event apparently came back there and bullied the guy into giving him some free snacks. He said Bigelow came by shortly thereafter and noticed he was clearly upset about something, and he mentioned the issue with the other wrestler. Bigelow said he'd take care of it, then stiffed the hell out of the other guy in their match. I don't know if that story was true or if the details are right, but I wanted to believe it because based on other stories about how he was personally, it sounds true.

FTFY

And had an older looking face.

A reminder that this happened, and it had nothing to do with Vince Russo or latter-day WCW.

* Lawler & Nova vs. John Cena & Sean O’Haire, OVW 6/28/2002 This is almost WAR-like in randomness. Any word if that new Jericho dvd is any good? Apparently he tells stories in between matches, though I'm wondering how sanitized they'll be.

I don't think Particle Man gets his due as a worker. Dude could bump like nobody's business and did the plucky, underdog face going against the oversize stable of heels better than Ziggler did at Survivor Series.

They've really had the law of diminishing returns with Undertaker at WM over the past few years. As hokey as the setup for his match with HHH was, at least he was around and somewhat actively promoting it for a few months before the actual event. With the Punk match, announced Taker would be at Raw and saying/doing something when Punk called him out. Then last year there was pretty much no mention of Taker until Brock called him out. This year there's even less mention of him or speculation on what he might be doing, then Bray decides to call him out.

So they're officially going with Sting's motivation for showing up is that he wants revenge for WCW dying 14 years ago, and he holds HHH (was he even at the top of the card at that point?) responsible? Last week when HHH "fired" Booker, I thought for a second Booker was going to go into his "Tell me you did not just say that!" and we'd get a HHH/Booker match, which honestly I'd care about more than the Sting angle. Bray was tremendous in his in-ring segment. I'm actually kind of interested in that match now. Is the battle royale just going to be the guys from Superstars and whatnot? Right now it looks like there are more guys booked for the IC ladder match and it seems they're going with a 4 way tag titles match. I'm all for the guys getting a WM payday out of it, but when the matches get that big and clusterfucky, it kind of takes away from the drama and intensity of a one on one encounter and the story behind it. Wasn't that Wiz (who looked like a black Dolph Ziggler) guy supposed to be a hometown hero or something? The crowd seemed pretty dead.

How did someone as mediocre as Billy Gunn get a spot as one of the head trainers?

Not the same thing AT ALL. I can't even believe you would mention that in the same post. Regardless, the guy spent close to 20 years making the name "CM Punk" mean something. He cracked his skull for that name. He spent the prime of his life on the road for that name. He threw away relationships and family members for that name. He's not an actor who plays a different role every couple of years, he spent his name sacrificing for the name "CM Punk". You damn right it's disrespectful. Someone else brought it up in another thread, but calling him by his real name would be like calling Charlie Sheen "Carlos" or some other celebrity by their non-stage name. How rude it might actually be is up to how offended the individual is, but Punk getting upset about the situation had more to do with the fan bugging him while he was trying to buy a hot dog more than anything else. This stems to the larger issue of people thinking they have some entitlement to infringe on celebrities' private lives and that they should drop everything to acknowledge a fan. Had the guy approached him in a similar manner when he wasn't preoccupied with something else, Punk might have had a less negative reaction.

The stapler. Dusty don't staple no papers. He thought it was a Pez dispenser. "Hey darlin', get Shaska in mah office, baby. His machine ain't giving me no candies." I'm now imagining Bill Lumberg trying to take Dusty's stapler and getting a bionic elbow for his efforts.

Just have Cena re-do Apollo Creed's entrance from Rocky 4 (only have someone non-dead perform instead of James Brown) and Russev do Drago's entrance from the Rocky bout, complete with massive painting of his face taking up half the arena.

I remember seeing those pics in one of the wrestling magazines way back then. To this day even watching the video it amazes me no one died. I remembered seeing that pic and reading about the match in a magazine, then years later got a comp tape with that match on it. Here's the full thing - Speaking of absurd fire matches from that era-

I loved Weeds at first, but it just went to crap after about season 3 or so. I kept trying to stick with it, but once they moved into that other city and Nancy got involved with the Mexican politician guy it got even worse. Around season 5 I just gave up. For a whole season or two, some friends and I would get together every Monday night to watch 24. After the season following the movie it just started to bore me. I can't explain why exactly, but just remember loosing my enthusiasm part way through that season. A few weeks ago I binge watched that new season and it was decent, but not enough to get me back into it.

Edge and Christian were another case of the sum being better than the parts. Christian was a good worker solo but is one of those guys that I could never bring myself to care about.

I hope Barrett goes down and sells getting covered by Little Jimmy for the pin.

Give him a gimmick as a sinister barista called Cup-a-Joe. /I'll see myself out.

Did the WWE ever have an interst in any bigger name Japanese guys, or was that considered the realm of WCW in the 90s? Tenryu was in the Rumble one year and Shinzaki and Ultimo had those brief runs, plus Kaientai and a few lower card guys. I was wondering if they'd ever considered bringing in someone like Liger, especially post-WCW?

I rarely if ever paid attention to WWE save for a few big events between 04 and 10 or so. Most of the reason was people like Cena, Orton and Edge, who completely weren't appealing to me as key players being the main faces of the company. Are things that significantly worse now than they were then? Granted they had guys like Eddy, Benoit, and Rey working full time and more leeway in how un-PG things could be, but based on what stuff I've seen from that era on the network it doesn't seem to be that much worse. This could be personal preference, but I thought Cena was terrible up until just a few years ago when he seemed to come into his own without having to be carried by someone significantly better. Reigns isn't that much older now than Cena was in his formative years, so I don't think it's outside the realm of possibility he couldn't get to that level.

Like the wellness policy even applies to everyone...