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I think that's obvious, whether that assessment of Athena by the powers that be is right or not. She's clearly the veteran "good hand" to give the young women (mainly Billie) some practice working big matches. It's too bad, because running a condensed version of the minions angle would've played extremely well on the main shows and they'd have Billie as an emerging young star.
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AEW TV - 1/1 - 1/7/2025 - Same Old Lang Syne(dge)
Go2Sleep replied to Dolfan in NYC's topic in ALL ELITE WRESTLING
I don't think there would've been anything wrong with Garcia winning with a regular piledriver or having Briscoe pass out with a flash guillotine. Both of those would've had Mark looking stronger than losing immediately after hitting 2 of his 3 finishers. -
AEW TV - 1/1 - 1/7/2025 - Same Old Lang Syne(dge)
Go2Sleep replied to Dolfan in NYC's topic in ALL ELITE WRESTLING
I don't know why but that FTR/RnR/Outrunners bit was hilarious. I think it was mostly because RnR are extremely out of place in these sports-entertainmenty type of backstage segments and their line delivery reflected that. Garcia/Briscoe was another good match between them, but I'm not completely buying all of Garcia's wins with the jackknife cover. He did have an elevated DDT like impact-finisher at one point, right? -
AEW TV - 1/1 - 1/7/2025 - Same Old Lang Syne(dge)
Go2Sleep replied to Dolfan in NYC's topic in ALL ELITE WRESTLING
Swerve is a dick, but he's violent and psychopathic, not a clown. The toilet paper thing would make sense for like Max Caster or the Young Bucks. At least beat him up before covering him in toilet paper. I suspect it'll be a fairly small thing by the end of the angle, though. Ricochet will likely have toilet paper rolls stapled to him soon enough. -
AEW TV - 1/1 - 1/7/2025 - Same Old Lang Syne(dge)
Go2Sleep replied to Dolfan in NYC's topic in ALL ELITE WRESTLING
"Cope" is such a bad idea. Even if everyone calls him that for shorthand, and there are two other prominent Adams on the show, you don't make that his official name. One thing WWE got right was never giving into calling The Undertaker "Taker" on a full-time basis, even though it was a common nickname for him. Of course, they got it wrong with nearly everyone else by having them drop a first or last name or go by their initials, which is what "Cope" reminds me of. Luckily they've had the sense to not do the same thing with Mox, but I do remember them having Cody Rhodes go by just Cody for a bit. Ricochet's angle is pretty good, though. I hated that toilet paper segment at World's End, but it makes sense as a launching off point for him snapping (still makes no sense that Swerve would be the one doing Vince-style humor, but whatever). The golden scissors were Bowens' weapon of choice in Blood and Guts last year, so I wonder if there's a connection there. -
I loved the Ospreay/Fletcher sprint opener. It's always nice when AEW matches are forced to "hold back" a little bit. At some point, someone might realize that not doing everything in every match helps in the long run. You'll notice how the crowd was never out of it in this one with no down time, and popped huge for a non-traditional finisher getting the W. Okada/Ricochet was alright. Post-match was some stupid Vince-brained shit. Mariah/Thunder was pretty decent. Liked the quick, but extremely believable, finish. Didn't care at all about MJF/Cole. MJF tried his best to carry this one, but the whole Undisputed Kingdom part of the angle isn't clicking. I feel like these two could do an inspired double turn match, but they tried to play it straight, and it was very uninspired. Hobbs/Takeshita didn't quite click for me, but I respect the effort they put into to the story of the match. Mercedes/Stat 2 didn't start off nearly as well as the first match, but the second half was still really good. Like most people, I was confused why they ran it back so fast just to have Stat lose clean again. There has to be another woman who could've used the Mercedes rub (now that she's back to having consistently good matches again) more than Stat here. The CC final was exactly what it was expected to be. You knew they were gonna go full epic, and it was fine for what it was, but it seems like I'm in the majority that found the semis far more interesting precisely they weren't full epics. If nothing else, it shows Okada still has his NJ Ace Mode in him. Not sure why they didn't end the show with Kenny instead of Cope. The 4-way was pretty dull, even by filler 4-way standards. Totally baffling they didn't put this on below the CC final. Rated FTR going after the trios belts isn't something I care to see, and I was really hoping we'd get the Christian payoff at least. Only thing worse than a Mox/Cope filler program would be a program where Cope actually is the one to beat Mox, just so there's a vehicle for the Christian cash-in. Get the Not-MITB case out of his hands already. Overall, pretty middling PPV. You can always count on most of the in-ring to deliver for AEW, but the writing for big angles has mostly been going in the wrong direction for a year now.
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Briscoe/Fletcher Briscoe/Garcia Ospreay/Darby Ospreay/Brody Ricochet/Brody Okada/Mortos
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Darby/Ospreay delivered, but the best part was that it wasn't a forced epic, it was just a really good TV match. Yes, with inflation, a really good TV match now would've been a blow-away generational ppv match 25 years ago, but it works. Mercedes/Anna was good too. Felt like an early NXT women's boom match. Definitely didn't like Swerve calling Ricochet "Trevor," but his "oh you read my wikipedia" response was pretty good. Totally fine with them having a match of course. Toni continues to be a genius. Harley's commercial was great. Really good show except for the flat ME angle which is extremely mid-2000s WWE in a bad way. Also, why does everybody only wear black now?
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I wouldn't be surprised to see a three faces of Toni gimmick at some point. She needs a strong third character, though, Outcast Toni isn't it. I also would've definitely put her return on Dynamite if not ppv, not because it will necessarily draw more, but simply as a matter of respect. She's carried the women's division when they needed her, treat her like it.
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I feel like Okada/Ospreay should be the obvious final. Fletcher is pretty much guaranteed to win the Blue League, which means Ospreay comes in second for a rematch in the semis. That means Darby or maybe Ricochet wins the Gold League to face Okada on the other side.
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I don't know that they were ever "friends," but there were definitely some times they had a common enemy. Thinking of when Austin returned to help Rock beat HHH at Backlash 2000, and when they were both feuding with the NWO at WM 18. I'm kinda sure they were on the same side of tag matches leading up to that.
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Disco's match with Jackie was one of the three worst things in 1997 WCW. I think Disco was a guy who could get a great one-off match against a strong opponent precisely because he was a joke 99% of the time. They pulled it off with Malenko and Saturn as guys he could garner sympathy against because they were able to push the ass-kicking he usually deserved into hard-to-watch territory. No one actually wanted Disco to win a bunch, nor did he have the chops to evolve his character into a serious midcard act, but he could pull off the sympathetic goof to great effect on occasion.
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I just couldn't imagine AEW having Toni's return match being in the middle of Rampage with no build. Plus they filmed Rampage in reverse. They had the Callis family promo, then Takeshita/Archer vs. Hobbs/Davis was announced as the main event by Roberts. They played the Rampage intro before Cardona/Keith even though it was the last match of the night, so who knows what the final cut will look like?
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Glad the show came across well on TV. They had enough of the T-Mobile Center tarped off that it looked like the Independence Events Center, so I was worried the acoustics. Seems like the crowd noise for Dynamite was captured thankfully. Don't expect much from Rampage, though. It's a nothing show and it looked like half the people bailed. Other interesting live notes were they taped the Jericho/Cardona contract signing for ROH here despite the rest of the show presumably filmed elsewhere and they also had Toni work a regular length dark match against Harley Cameron. I'm guessing they learned from Cole that they should probably give wrestlers some time to work off rust after a long layoff before a big TV match. Thought Brody/Ricochet was really good. Ricochet taking some notes from Mercedes and embracing the "welcome back" moment, then just kinda doing nothing and let the real goal of being a heel come out organically as he works against the true faces. Even his early-match selling here was pretty heel-ish. If he keeps the "heel who thinks he's a face" going into the match with Darby, that'll be wonderful. I'm sure he'll join up with Hurt Syndicate, hopefully in a more creative way than just costing Swerve another match against Lashley, though.
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I don't like the "adding time for injury" shit, but I have no problem with keeping talent off TV for the remainder of their contract, so long as they get paid the full amount. AEW doesn't have enough "premium" TV time to go around as is, no reason to use it on people who have one foot out the door.
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AEW TV - 12/4 - 12/10/2024 - White Winter Is Coming Hymnal
Go2Sleep replied to Dolfan in NYC's topic in ALL ELITE WRESTLING
I have to agree AEW would be a lot better "getting back to their roots" with Hangman and Anna Jay title wins by the end of the year. For the former, it's easy to craft a redemption arc, and it doesn't even have to end with the title win. With a decisive enough win, Mox can bow out for a bit, claiming his work done. Or have Darby crash a plane into him as he's leaving the building. Or both. Hangman vs. anyone besides Swerve at the top of the card is fresh. For the latter, no one is really positioned to take down Mercedes at this point, so why not go for the big upset and throw Anna a bone? If they want Toni to headline GS: Australia, the right partner is Mercedes, not Mariah. Who would turn down a GS: Australia headlined by Toni/Mercedes and Hangman/Fletcher? -
AEW TV - 12/4 - 12/10/2024 - White Winter Is Coming Hymnal
Go2Sleep replied to Dolfan in NYC's topic in ALL ELITE WRESTLING
Loved Swerve/Max turning into a glorified squash. It's always nice when a match accurately reflects the level of both participants. They're onto something with Max as a heel, though. Kinda surprised to see OC back so soon, but he would be good filler for a multi-way title match. Good crowd all night, and I loved them getting behind Shelton and Brody as full babyfaces. Only minor complaint is both CC matches ending with the heels cheating. I was ok with Fletcher doing it, but I don't think anything would've been hurt if Claudio went over clean. -
Wait what? The Death Riders angle isn't the most exciting thing in the world, but what am I missing here? 2 guys in the group have shaved heads and one could pass as German to an American audience I guess? DOA was neo-nazi gimmick, and the Harris Brothers were like actual white supremacists with SS tats and everything. Death Riders is just another generic NWO ripoff.
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Komander picking right up where Juice left off as the 0-5 guy is very on-brand. I hated Juice in there from the beginning. Last year, Lethal was the only 0-5 guy I think, although they definitely teased it with Briscoe and Garcia. I think having an even field where a couple of decent names struggle does a lot more for the tournament and even the individuals than throwing in obvious jobbers to pad everyone else's stats.
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I definitely think Starks is overrated, but it's his attitude that will always hold him back. Nothing could make that more clear than seeing how Bill recovered from that failed team by embracing his next opportunity while Ricky allegedly turned down angles he thought were beneath him. Ricky is not anywhere near as good as he thinks he is, especially on the mic. He's going to end up much closer to Pillman Jr than Cody when he goes to WWE.
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Extremely looking forward to Darby vs. Ospreay. Would love to see a Darby/Okada final too, but Ospreay/Okada can probably sell World's end by itself. You can run that as the main with a Mox/Hangman/White/Christian 4-way for the belt below it. Would've liked to see Lio replace Juice as the 0-5 guy, and Pac or Yuta in place of Claudio for fresher matchups, but otherwise great lineup.
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Stat/Mercedes, Hangman/Jay, and Ospreay/Fletcher was an A+ stretch of wrestling. Mina being ready for Mariah's shit was good too. Mox/OC was a pretty good match but that WWE finish killed the crowd. I feel like they had something going with Hangman coming out after, but the rest of the chaos fell flat.