Elsalvajeloco
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According to Dave Meltzer, the Christmas Eve version of UFC 206 on Fox will be around the 2nd or 3rd highest rated UFC ever. -
Thanks to Travis Kelce and Tyreek Hill and Siemian bringing down Demaryius Thomas, I was able to stage a dramatic comeback all the while having Adam Thielen, J.J. Nelson, and Brandon LaFell on my bench. Who do I have to assassinate to get in this league? Preferably, I can do it like the scene in Goodfellas where Tommy gets "made".
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2016 Non-Event General MMA Talk Thread
Elsalvajeloco replied to Elsalvajeloco's topic in BOXING & MMA
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There is a list of medical conditions she was dealing with and kidney damage or dehydration are not on the list. This article puts an intriguing perspective on the whole situation.
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Not sure if he is her boyfriend or just a really close friend. Don't care anyway. Elbe was the one who mentioned the substance Cyborg failed for, and basically, the only one who has came forward to say anything of note really.
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That doesn't make sense because people can say the same thing either way. If he was in adequate shape to fight, the commission wouldn't have pulled him. It would be different if it was something like what went on with Rashad in NY (and subsequently Ontario) where they found something he has been fighting his whole career with. In that case, Rashad can save face because it looks like New York is playing super safe in their first big time MMA event. Nevada, having knowledge of Cain's injuries for 2-3 weeks, made a call that you cannot fault them for making. They understand the financial incentive for Velasquez, but at the same time, they cannot clear someone whose condition hasn't improved just five days away from a fight. So if there is any blame to be had, it's going to be on Velasquez.
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Not really since that would mean that not talking to the media would make that financially advantageous for Rousey. You can't argue that's it is risky and then say it's a conflict of interest. Plus, you think Lorenzo or Dana ex nay that if Zuffa still owned the UFC? I seriously doubt that considering the relationship between the parties. There would probably be a lengthy discussion, but likely ends in the same result.
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Well, he went to the trouble of having his doctor clear him and then have his doctor get him cleared by the NAC at the wire. It seemed like that was going to happen, but the commission decided against it. If you don't want to fight, you just pull out of the fight.
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This all snowballed after Cain said he was getting surgery after 207 in that MMAAA presser. Naturally, people are going to be inquisitive about why he needed the procedure in the first place. That presser is looking worse by the day.
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If you had Week 16 in the leg injury pool, pat yourself on the back right about now.
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Nope, the starters are playing. The only way I see Dallas taking the starters out is if Sanchez suits up, and the Cowboys get so far ahead of the Lions in the first half.
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The Cards D had like 13 penalties on that drive, and Seattle ends up getting a FG blocked. Amazing.
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So is Mike McCoy getting fired at the hotel, on the way to the plane, on the plane, or...
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2016 Non-Event General MMA Talk Thread
Elsalvajeloco replied to Elsalvajeloco's topic in BOXING & MMA
But at the same time, he ended up fighting all the top contenders and is most likely about to fight Holloway. I don't think history is going damn someone for not fighting Josh Grispi and Erik Koch when he also beat Mark Hominick, Frankie Edgar 2x, Ricardo Lamas, Chad Mendes 2x, and fought Conor McGregor. If he retired today, he would no worse than 1b to McGregor's 1a in terms of greatest featherweights ever. Yes, there would be a correlation if a person got injured and managed to avoid everyone noteworthy. At the end of the day, he is still fighting these people. Should he take responsibility for being somewhat injury prone? Sure. Should he take responsibility for avoiding fights? Hell no because he has beaten damn near everyone put in front of him in decisive manner. -
I certainly agree, but at the same time, so many people went so hard in the paint on Amanda Nunes out of all people headlining UFC 200. It would be weird that people walked that back and were like, "Hey, Amanda Nunes is such a sweetheart for doing what Ronda didn't want to do." Now we are just in a weird gray area before the fight where the media wants a back-and-forth between Rousey and Nunes or just something catchy to happen with Rousey. Basically, anything with Rousey that's noteworthy. They're not going to get it. So to spin Nunes into this magical babyface (her not being in the commercials for 207, being willing to do media, being this unsung champ), it would take Nunes doing what someone like Mousasi has done. The problem is...Amanda Nunes ain't that person. If she was, she would have capitalized on that immediately. Her English isn't the best, and she isn't going to get give you a ton of quality soundbytes. Maybe something clicks between now and Friday, but for right now, people in the media want what Rousey gave them prior to the Holm fight. It also doesn't help many journalists have a draft on their computer that have something about Rousey being back or something cheesy about her never being gone in the first place ready to go for next Friday should she beat Nunes. If they had enough faith in Nunes beating Rousey and not just this inane, super irrational hate for Ronda Rousey that tons of online MMA fans have, it would make it easier to paint Nunes as a more compelling character. It isn't enough to say I like Amanda Nunes, but I am going to wait until after 207 when I can be the best armchair quarterback I can be.
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Mike Perry is a very bad example because he might actually say something that gets him into a ton of trouble. But I wouldn't say upper echelon as much as I would say just Rousey and McGregor. They're going to get special treatment no matter. Honestly, I would say they deserve it because there should be perks when you draw what they draw. Outside the whole ordeal in April, they have given McGregor plenty of concessions. I even believe after the whole UFC 200 thing, McGregor has been a bit selective with who talks to as well and the UFC has agreed to that. The whole thing with pressers, media week, so on and so forth is most fighters don't have the opportunity to do it in the first place. Lots of them feel fortunate enough to be there in the first place. Outside your Anderson Silvas and Brock Lesnars who despise doing media, you're going to get certain fighters who are willing to do any and everything as it relates to participation in media obligations. That's very commendable, but there is a clear line between the cherry on top and the whole cake. It would be cool and awesome for a random person on the main card to get some media coverage. However, 9 times out of 10, said person isn't going to add anything in terms of ratings or PPV buys. It also isn't doing anything for hits either because people wouldn't be trying to turn every Rousey or McGregor blurb into a frontpage article or op ed. Honestly, that's what is pissing off MMA media. If random fighter X who is a middling fighter very few know was getting clicks in the range of those two, they wouldn't give a shit about Rousey missing the final presser. No matter what, they can't spin this by making it about getting content. For someone like McGregor at a presser, he's going to get at least 75% of the questions. I guarantee that half of those questions are going to be repetitive, and he has to find new, creative ways to answer them. Either way, that's what contributes to PPVs selling so high that he headlines. However, the biggest downside to that is it gets to a point where people like McGregor and Rousey don't want to deal with the monotony anymore. It's easy when you're like a Ryan LaFlare or some female fighter who has never been up on a dais before because you might get one question maximum. For someone doing that sun up to sundown, you're going to reach a level where you are more willing to stick a power drill through your temple than talk to someone from MMAHotSausageLinks.com or the Wichita Daily Press whose knowledge of MMA is minimum again and again. There are giant negatives that come with the way either has handled it, but at the same time, that's the reality.
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No, Meltzer called her doing no media stupid. He went into a whole rant about her knowing she became famous. Matter of fact, he has been talking about that on his Twitter the last few hours after the UFC released the official schedule for next week.
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2016 Non-Event General MMA Talk Thread
Elsalvajeloco replied to Elsalvajeloco's topic in BOXING & MMA
Pulling out due to injury does not equal turning a fight down. If it's something like Werdum choosing to not fight a replacement opponent because of nagging injuries he was planning to fight through anyway, that's a bit different because there is some type of gamesmanship involved. The Alcides Nunes one for 189 that got leaked by the Brazilian press is way different because everyone knew Aldo was seriously hurt. Even the UFC couldn't play that one down. Keep in mind, the UFC often sends the more notable fighters to top physicians in Los Angeles or Las Vegas for second opinions. These aren't fictional injuries. -
No, I think it's obviously the questions about her psyche after the Holm fight and the months spent away. It's only so many ways you can answer that question. "Hey, uh Ronda, can you walk me through step-by-step of what happened moments after getting knocked out in front of several thousand people? I know you were very disoriented and lost about 5-10 minutes of your life you will never be able to recall due to a concussion, but fill me in anyway." Add in that she's going to be asked how many fights she has left. There is going to be six or seven different versions of that question.
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Reading Ray Elbe's comments, it answers some questions but brings up a few more. The part at the end is the big headscratcher IMO: So the doctor got the list and gave the ok, but there is something different on the website (or the app that the fighters have IIRC)? That makes no sense.
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Damn skippy. That's the whole point. Conor chose days before the presser to get into a negotiation battle. When Ronda signed on to come back, this was part of the stipulations. If Ronda was scheduled to be at a couple of pre-fight pressers and decided to get into whether or not to skip one and do the other, she would have been reprimanded the same. That would be in addition to skipping a commercial shoot where they are spending a million dollars. Conor decided to pull a power play to see if he could get the UFC blink. They didn't blink. He tried to pull their card and ended up getting his pulled.
