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I feel it's the opposite. The WCW feud doesn't happen without the perception from 15 years before that these two were legendary, longtime rivals. I'm really curious about how this perception came to be. I have some ideas (Piper refusing to job caused fans to consider him a more major rival due to the outstanding and never-solved issue, Piper always booked as a key heel even if not in a program with Hogan, the two being the focal points of the WWF cartoon maybe?) but I'd love to hear some opinions. As far as Hogan rivalries go, what about Bobby Heenan? Hogan feuded with the Heenan family on and off from pre Mania 1 until after Mania 3. (Excuse me for being an older dude who measures the early WWF timeline by what Mania was happening when).

Heh. About as much as something billed as "equal to or bigger than Wrestlemania" is.

It always strikes me as how we think of Piper and Hogan as these legendary rivals, like they're Batman and the Joker, when they were only programmed against each other for such a short time. I don't know how many house show runs they had against each other, but it looks like the only high profile program between the two was the run-up to Mania 1 (the Wrestling Classic/War to Settle the Score/Brawl to End it All) and that show itself

LOL are you serious? Did you just start watching wrestling last week? We have garbage matches with panes of glass, scissors, "AIDS needles," fire, and all matter of gross shit that is so tasteless and legit harmful to performers We had Tony Anthony and Dirty White Girl use domestic violence as part of an angle We had Randy Orton claim Eddy Guerrero was burning in hell We had Saba Simba, Slick, The Gangstas, the original incarnations of Doom and Harlem Heat, and countless other racist horseshit angles We have, as @Craig H said, wrestlers working bloodbaths with life-threatening blood-borne diseases and not telling anyone about their condition And on and on. You can't swing a dead cat without finding something 1000x worse But somehow Joey Ryan having wrestling's strongest cock is somehow the lowest anyone in wrestling has ever gone. You have some weird axe to grind against this gimmick that makes you ignore reality. I'm done.

I finally caught the Montreal Screwjob episode. Oof, what a waste of time. Prichard is Prichard, taking up permanent residence in Vince's ass, and the show just lazily (I guess for dramatic purposes) furthered the dishonest narrative that Montreal was Bret's last night and that match was the only chance to get the belt off him. If you haven't watched it yet, don't bother.

Legit LOL. Tremendous

Joey Ryan didn't start the "indies trying to get eyeballs" thing. There have been indy shows doing dumb shit for attention since long before Abe Lincoln tapped out that dude by the campfire. Wrestling is still doing fine. There's no long term damage outside of the damage guys like Cornette do by telling anyone who listens that modern wrestling isn't worth their time, killing off scores of would-be paying customers.

I think Cornette selfishly working a large group of would-be paying fans into thinking that pretty much all wrestling today sucks and is not worth their money does more long-term damage than Joey Ryan's cock. That's just me, though. ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

Dramatic much? What "long-term damage" has Ryan's ridiculous signature spot done to our beloved sport of kings? Are there major wrestling promotions that are just absolutely teeming with cock-based maneuvers due to the influence of that awful Joey Ryan? I hit the post button as @Craig H was posting. Apologies for any repetitive content.

What's the whole deal with Spider Man, Sony, and Marvel? Does Marvel Studios have any say in the character's direction moving forward or are the training wheels off so Sony's free to drive the bike right back into a sinkhole?

That's amazing. So take a character inextricably linked to Spider Man, remove all Spider Man connections to make a totally different movie....then put him into a Spider Man movie. The mind boggles. That would be like Hallie Berry's Catwoman showing up in Batman Begins.

If we're commenting on cringe-inducing pronunciation, I'm sick of the trend of people pronouncing "both" like it has an L in it ("BOLTH"). Garrett Gonzales does this and it drives me up a wall. Sounds like Fred Norris imitating Bababooey saying "boss."

Ryan's dick spots went viral, got him worldwide attention, increased his bookings, paid for his house, and eventually got him to a point where WWE wants to sign him. None of that happens without that spot. The Katie Vick angle turned people off and did not add one PPV buy. Honestly, do you just pull this stuff out of your ass based on your general hate for independent wrestling? You're really good at reading minds and judging people's intent. Or you just assign the worst possible intentions to strangers you've decided to dislike.

I would love this alternate universe podcast where a non-carny Jim Cornette takes a Zoloft, thoughtfully analyzes the show, and explains the holes in Omega's game. But there's a legion of trolls and people who think wrestling hasn't been good since 1986 that demands to be fed.

But which of the two is truly a bad enough dude to rescue President Ronnie from ninjas?

This is the dumbest fucking argument and I feel like an idiot for being baited here. He didn't say he hated his style. That's twice now that you've framed Cornette's trolling, dumb statement as just some disagreement with how Omega wrestles and that is absolutely not what he said. He literally said the guy is a marginally better Tom McGee. Why are you moving the goalposts and reinterpreting Cornette's dumb statement? I believe Cornette is a really smart guy who knows a shit ton about wrestling. I think we can objectively agree with that. I think we can also objectively agree that Omega, for whatever hate boner Cornette and his sycophants have for him, is probably worlds better than a guy who washed out of wrestling in short order. Therefore Cornette is being intellectually dishonest, insincere, disingenuous, trolling, whatever you want to call it. His podcast is a waste of time because you're not getting Jim Cornette, brilliant wrestling historian. You're getting Jim Cornette, wrestling character.

Come on man. The guy expressed an opinion about a wrestler that nobody with Cornette's level of knowledge would have. Saying Kenny Omega is only slightly more talented than Tom McGee is like saying the New England Patriots are not much better than your kid's Pop Warner team. It's a troll statement, and it's absolutely insincere. Again, check out Meltzer's show from over the weekend. He knows Cornette, is a longtime friend, and and even he said it was a bullshit statement designed just for Cornette's audience. I just realized I'm playing right into Cornette's hands debating some dumb shit he said for the sole purpose of getting a reaction.

Yeah, saying Kenny Omega is a marginally more talented Tom McGee wasn't hyperbole at all. Seriously dude?

That would be awesome, because when he's just talking wrestling and not in character, you see how knowledgeable and normal he is. I'd absolutely love to know his real thoughts on Double or Nothing instead of the disingenuous shit he spewed online. But he's found his niche and, unfortunately, a bunch of marks who hang on his every word, not knowing they're being worked. Carnies gonna carny.

Trying to catch up, just watched the first episode of "The Wrestlers" (the one about Gabe and Evolve) last night. REALLY good. It made me remember why I love wrestling.

I just want to laugh about Cornette saying the Young Bucks aren't physically imposing. For one, both guys have gotten bigger in the past few years. Two, Cornette spent years managing Bobby Eaton, a very average looking dude with a blond mullet, beer belly, and spaghetti arms. But keep on working your marks Jim. Even Meltzer low key called him out for it.

LOLLLL Flair goes off on a guy who had the temerity to insinuate that he's lost himself in his wrestling persona...then finishes with: What a sad, thin-skinned, delusional goof. This is like when Rick James said "what am I gonna do, just jump up and grind my feet on somebody's couch? I got a little more sense than that....... " "....................Yeah I remember grinding my feet on Eddie's couch."

Clearly the solution is to hire wrestlers who also dislike wrestling.

I remember the story of Freddie Prinze Jr. on a plane with Vince. Prinze was watching some comedy program on his phone and Vince was flabbergasted he wasn't watching WWE. Prinze told him he wanted some comedy, to which Vince replied, "well, watch some Santino!" The man is absolutely in the WWE bubble. No valid content whatsoever exists outside of it to him.