Casey

Triple H controls NXT, Vince controls the main roster. I have no idea where you got the idea that Vince isn't the end all, be all for creative on RAW, SD and PPVs. If that was the case, it'd be huge news and all over the dirtsheets and people would be talking about it non-stop.

I'm willing to give it a chance until it's obvious Renallo is just going to be another WWE style announcer. I'm hoping they hired him because he brings something different to the table and they're trying to change the presentation of the product. Until I see a few episodes of Smackdown in 2016, I'm not going to go down the negativity road. EDIT: Also, who replaces him on the NJPW shows on AXS TV? It's weird to me that they're still letting him work with Showtime (owned by CBS, rival to NBC, who owns USA Network).

Why have Graves when Booker is your color commentator? Why do we even need a 3 man booth on both shows anyway????

sup troma

Mauro Ranallo getting hired and being the lead announcer on Smackdown is getting slept on by everyone. At least RIPPA noticed it. That's a HUGE improvement over what they have currently. Although, if they let Lawler stay in the booth it's going to be horrible. Ranallo, Brennan & Booker T would be nice.

Kevin Owens versus The Undertaker is a thing I didn't know I wanted until just now.

Yes, I'm aware. I was stating that I have no interest in this sequel since Will Smith isn't in it.

He's gotta go on a losing streak before he challenges and conquers Lesnar at WrestleMania! Also, a lot of reports that Mauro Ranallo signed with WWE and it'll be announced tomorrow that he's the new commentator for Smackdown starting in January. Hopefully that means Lawler is gone and is replaced on the PPV shows as well, because he was easily the most annoying out of the three all night.

I expected a Lesnar run-in at the end when Del Rio and Rusev were helping Sheamus. It made a little sense, because Del Rio is supposed to face Lesnar at that house show coming up. I also temporarily bought into the rumor of Daniel Bryan returning tonight. All of these thoughts went through my head within a minute probably, so they weren't too well thought out Brock Lesnar as the #1 or #2 entrant in the Rumble would be fun.

The Roman attitude change could be cool, depending on where they go with it tomorrow and how his character is from now on. If he's just a silent badass that doesn't give a fuck anymore, that's a good thing. If it's business as usual tomorrow, cracking stupid jokes and they do the typical firing/suspension angle, it's run of the mill and won't matter much in the long run (besides Roman going over Triple H, but it's debatable if that means anything now too). They turned the crowd in Roman's favor by the end with the extended beatdowns - went from chanting WE WANT CENA/CENA SUCKS and NXT to ROMAN and THANK YOU ROMAN. I don't know if that says more about the crowd liking Roman, for the moment, or if The Authority is that annoying to most people. I honestly didn't pay attention to the PPV tonight, save the ECW/Wyatts match and Ambrose/Owens. The last 25ish minutes of the show got my attention.

I like Bill Pullman and Jeff Goldblum as much as the next guy, but uh, I need some Will Smith in this movie if I'm going to care at all. The trailer is.... just okay.

Is there not going to be a post-fight presser?

What's crazy is that Conor actually fucking predicted this.

You've got to be kidding me.

Fuck yes.

This is all fascinating and super interesting, and proof as to why we need a political subforum again and that political talk (done the correct, civil way) can actually work. Also, Jason Jordan is for sure a future World Champion.

Vince McMahon is only a Republican because Amos Tuck hated people who sneezed too, and it just so happens that Jefferson & Madison were always sneezing.

I like how we're being optimistic that Vince McMahon, a Republican millionaire, doesn't share the same views as many of the same people in his party. I hate to paint everyone with the same brush, but... these days, it's kind of easy. Are we pretending that Vince isn't using characters like Muhammed Hassan, all the black stereotypes over the years, any foreign character, etc. as a metaphor for what he actually believes and thinks in private (not so privately, sometimes). He speaks through multiple characters, to pretend any different is just wanting to ignore that fact. I'm pretty sure it was just last year when Rusev was bashing Obama for being puny and small and not lifting weights in the gym. JBL and Michael Cole ripping on Obama and the Democratic Party during a match certainly happened - I remember muting the TV because it was so fucking annoying. Oddly enough, I don't remember WWE being political during the Bush years, but before and after his run, they were all about it. Oh, and Obama stepping in at the last minute to endorse Linda's opponent in that congressional race (not that it really mattered, though. Connecticut is a blue state). Lest we forget who went over in the infamous Trump VS. Rosie match on RAW, too... Okay, I'm done.

If you're putting up shows from the era that Shawn was there, he'd be the most known guy on the roster. Speaking of Hogan though, has there been any talk about taking Donald Trump out of the Hall of Fame or at least removing him from the website? Hogan got that treatment and his shit looks tame compared to what Trump is saying. Vince and Trump are friends, members of the same political party, and (most likely) share the same views. Hogan is just an old wrestler that people care less and less about each day. Donald Trump is on national/international television every day and is running for President, and will likely be the Republican nominee at this rate. So, no. At this point, it's something WWE can brag about. If he wins in 2016... oh, they're reallyyyy going to brag about it.

Oh, don't you worry, New Day will be faces soon enough...

Yeah, Lance or Felicity's mom are good bets. Ollie's son? Yeah, I don't see the CW murdering a child. Just like how AMC won't ever have Judith be eaten alive by zombies on The Walking Dead. That's a step too far, even if it is fiction. I'm placing my bets on Lance, though. I know it's a red herring but last night's episode still pulled at my heart strings.

RE: tonight's Arrow .... goddamnit.

I just don't know what to think about Agents of SHIELD anymore..

I want all of the people bitching about the people that bitch about WWE to be restricted to this thread only.

The tater tot line was fine until Roman drove it into the ground shortly after by repeating it.