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I can only speak on myself for the WWE held to higher standards point. Im in the same boat as you. I don't get the praise for their weekly tv. I just posted how lackluster I think Raw was this week. So at least for that one talking point I'm not on opposite sides. And I do agree they're leaving too much meat on the bone, expecting viewers to imply why things are happening a lot. And that's fine if you want to tell the broadest stories only. But if you want nuance if you want and clever details in your story, you need the announcers to do the heavy lifting. Provate Party & Garcia won titles after their run in with The Death Riders. Not a single time has that been mentioned. Not a single time has a heel said see what they're doing is working and making these guys better and AEW better as a whole. Its making for very disjointed storytelling. And as much as that sounds like a commentary criticism, it's not. It's a TK criticism. Because I can recognize how he's producing the announcers. He wants those lower third match graphics pushed hard and above what we're seeing in the ring. He wants those ticket on sales talked about and not what we're seeing in the ring.

'It's not me hearing things wrong it's hundreds of you!!' lol. Just poking some light hearted fun at you. You're vibing with the Death Riders thing but the overwhelming majority here aren't. I think it's you who is hearing what you want to hear a bit. Man I know this is gonna get shit on, but I am so sick of Hobbs getting a push only against Mox. It's clear they're buds and Mox keeps going to bat for him because he only gets world title shots when Mox is champ. It's boring and I'm sick of it. The last time they worked is when Hobbs blew out his knee. I'm sure Mox is like let's give him a do over. Hobbs has great presence and aura. But he's not right for this spot. Square peg, round hole. Keep him special and quit making him lose the big one all the time. Omega back doing the same shit he did for like a year, feuding with Callis. Yawn. AEW is allergic to creativity these days. TK just maps out 12 weeks of plans in his formula chart that are exactly the same structure over and over. I know this is a really negative posts. But I didn't hate the show on the whole. I thought Osprey and Buddy was dope, the Casino deal was really good, the women delivered. MJF & Jarrett is a fun pairing. There are bite size chunks of greatness, they're just covered in dirt and you have to be sifted through.

I can understand this thought process. But it's like 1994 WWE. Just because Austin hasn't come along yet to set the business on fire doesn't mean sitting through a slog of a title reign like Yokozuna's is any better for thr business. Put that shit back on Bret who is at least fun for the fans of the product, even if he doesn't appeal to the masses. Not saying Omega is or isn't a good or terrible choice/ nor Bret, nor am I saying Mox is as bad as Yoko was. Just saying what's happening is not working. Why are we forcing this? There's an alternative that at least makes some people more excited about the company.

Resurrection casting newz:

Kenny Omega is back. What I would do: Have him win The Casino Gauntlet and beat Mox next week. Kenny Omega is back. What AEW will do: Have him piss around working 20+ minute matches against under card heels like Cahrlie Bravo and Kip Sabian until having him work Okada in July.

I thought I was gonna be the low voter on this yucking everyone's yum. Happy to see as many people felt like this was a sanctimonious self congratulatory circle jerk as I did. The Rock squashed all his story beefs and cut a promo as an executive instead of a character. That man for sure isn't working Wrestlemania this year. The production was amazing. Lights and sound and camera work all top notch. I'm not sure what's up with my feed because I don't use a VPN but I got no commercials and got to see The New Day promo. Had a lot of fade to blacks that came right back and Cole mic dropouts which was weird. The Hogan shit was hilarious. What did you think was gonna happen? The wrestling audience leans inclusion and acceptance. Of corse the racist dude that has done politically rallies for the anti inclusion side is gonna get booed. I thought Cena's promo was great. Jey's entrance was great. Punk v Rollins & Women's match were solid. But on the whole I thought this show was boring as shit. Them not debuting Penta in front of that huge audience is a huge mistake.

All fair points and you'll probably be right. I still have that mental image of the hard ass walking into the building in a swank suit smoking a cigar at his first press conference. Then they went out and made the playoffs and won a game. Not like this is Joe Judge or anything. Frustrating tho because they've been bad for so many seasons now. I don't even need a Super Bowl. Just become a consistant contender and I'll be happy.

I feel like I'm the only Giants fan that wanted Daboll back. The Giants need stability. All of these 2 and done 3 and done coaches aren't working. Coughin had how many rough seasons before it started clicking? Daboll did take them to the playoffs and won a game. Give him a season or two with some QB stability before we're tossing out a coach of the year. Just how I feel about it all.

Episodes 5 thoughts

He didn't own the name Cody Rhodes. That wasn't an AEW thing. WWE owned the name. He could be Cody because that's his real name. But with Rhodes not being his real name WWE legal wouldn't let him use it. He ended up getting it back by trading them Bash at the Beach & one other one I can't remember for sure. Cody had bought those trademarks because WWE failed to renew them. They tired to get around it by always announcing him as "The American Nightmare" Cody... and Brandi Rhodes. She was able to work as Brandi Rhodes because that wasn't her WWE name and she created it after leaving. Clever loophole really.

Giving me flashbacks to Doug Pederson tanking the last game of the season against Washington the one year. Had they beat Washington The Giants would have made it in. But they made sure to lose on purpose in the most obvious of ways. I will hold a grudge against him forever for that. But you're probably right. There's been more thought put into it hurting The Giants if they win than what a meaningless win does for them locked into the 2 spot. Who cares that one of your players could make history. Siriani about to be on my fuck you forever list with Pederson lol.

Me personally in his shoes, if The Eagles get smoked by The Packers in the first round I'd have so much disappointment and regret. You're 100 yards away from being the best running back of all time (record wise). 30 years down the line the 'what if' thoughts would consume me.

He still hasn't cleared it. He'd be sitting either way, but the wording I saw was he's still in the protocol. So your point makes a lot of sense. I'd still play Barkley and try and get that record. At least play him for the first half and see how it shakes out. It's a decimated Giants defense that sucks against the run anyways.

That's crazy to me. He's 101 yard away. At least try. If I were Barkley I'd be pissed. Put my name in that record book and let me live forever (or until someone else in a future generation breaks it). I get the injury implication. But I've always believed in the other route. Stay sharp and keep grinding. I think sitting players is at best a 50-50 proposition to backfire based on history.

Dial back the disrespect. If you think Hangman & OC are in the title picture anymore you're crazy. Hangman just killed him to spin them off into their own thing. You watched the show right? Cope & Mox is the fued now. Christian has the briefcase. Jarrett just started his version of the Danielson one more year to win the title story. That's the immediate world title picture. i mean feel free to add all 21 guys in the Gauntlet into the world title picture if you want. To me that's crazy, but you do you.

AEW just continues to have the lamest vibe. That new Dynamkte song sucks as bad as Elton John on Collision. On par with using Wheels on The Bus Go Round & Round. Same vibes. So is the February Grand Slam in Australia off or something? The video screen was promoting Revolution as the next PPV. Feb 15th is supposed to be Grand Slam. But maybe it's not a PPV anymore? No mention of it at all. Odd. It's 2025. If your world title scene is Mox, Edge, Jeff Jarrett & Christian you fucked up. On their own all solid talents with merits to be on top. But that combo on top is some stale ass moldy bread. Does... does AEW suck now? Am I being too harsh? Is it just the TV that's bland and boring? PPVs usually always deliver. But man there is not a lot here that feels hot. I don't like being so negative. But boy was this show extremely not for me tonight.

And that's totally fair. All I'm saying is if they're insistent on keeping the belt on Mox with dirty finishes, doing different shit would be better than the same exact thing over and over. The current playbook has literally just been Claudio & Yuta interfere in every match he's had. I'm just saying get creative instead of hitting the generic run in spam button over and over and over again. Now neither is going to be a great choice for the audience they're marketing too. We def agree on that. But vary it up so it's not just the same finish over and over and over. That's just lazy.

They did an 8man last year but they mixed the teams up. It wasn't straight up gold vs blue. It was mostly babies & a heel vs all heels if I remember right.

They already completed that story. He was gun shy after hurting Danielson with The Tiger Driver. Then he stopped and lost because of nit using it a few times. Danielson said stop being a pussy, use it. So he did. And beat MJF with it. And won The International Title back. If you're expecting some other conclusion coming down the road from that angle I think you're about to be a disappointed boy lol.

I think my biggest gripe with The Death Riders stuff (aside from the muddy motivations / follow up) is essential Mox is Flair. Death Riders are The Horseman. We know there's gonna be interference. Make it creative. Don't just spam the run in button. Find cool creative ways to keep the belt on Mox if that's the plan. Like shit use a new ref for a few months. Run a Last Man Standing Match. Let him count Mox til 9, then swerve. He beats the fuck out of the baby face picks Mox up and counts to 10 for the win. Then he's thier new young boy. Shit like that is way more compelling than just generic run ins.

Ospreay vs Fletcher smoked everything. Stat vs Mercedes was also really good. But I am still baffled by the direction in a lot of cases here. Okada over Ospreay is a choice. Even if you're planning to dive right into Okada vs Omega, it seems Like Ospreay just keeps losing important matches. Mox vs Cope on top is not the direction I'd be going. That certainly doesn't scream alternative to WWE. They may be able to capture a gritty violent feel WWE would never allow, but even still just seems like there are better options. Ospreay, Swerve, Darby, Omega, MJF, Hangman. Those are your hottest acts. Some combination of them together or mixing them in with Mox, Cope, Jay White, Samoa Joe, Malakai, Brody King is where the money is. Out of those 12 performers Mox vs Cope is the least compelling combination possible in my opinion.

I must be literally the only person watching this lol. Episode 4 thoughts

How bad do you have to be to mess up tanking? Also how bad are The Colts? They were still alive in the playoff picture and they let the bum ass Giants put a dagger through their heart. There's something about Drew Lock's face that just makes me want to punch him. Regardless of him ruining the tank or not, just a very punchable face.

I disagree that was some lame ass cheese. There's no internal logic to it. It's like when Smackdown was getting a new set the one time they came up with a spot for Rhino to Spear Jericho through the one screen. That made sense. They booked logic to the spot they wanted. This is opposite of that. Bad guy just goes in the truck and says the show is canceled? Why? How? Why didn't he cancel any of the other shows? Does Rampage have a separate lighting control than Dynamite & Collison? Why does Pac smashing that one only ruin it for Rampage? Really lame idea with really lame execution.

Figured I'd start a new topic for both of these shows because I'm going to have lots of thoughts. Three episodes of Original Sin are out now. Episode 1: Episode 2: Episode 3: And a Resurrection note I noticed from episode one of Original Sin...