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  1. Starks and Danielson went fucking in on that gimmick. That is by far the best strap match I've seen. Two dudes just saying fuck it I know you're gonna whip the shit out of me as hard as you fucking can right in the face but that's cool, bring it. Danielson also did a hell of a job working smart and not putting that arm in too much danger at any point. I can't put this match over too much. So good. Starks passing out is going to do so much more for him than a win would. Also think OC coming up short is the right call and he'll end up better off for it. Especially liked the way Mox did him a real solid with his post match shock / incredulous reaction like this fucking guy took me out to waters that deep, thaaaa fucck? Such a fun show. Joe vs MJF at Grand Slam (I assume) is gonna be dope. Starks looks like a star. OC looks like a star. Miro & Hobbs looked like stars. Not sure about all the weekly tv, but I can say for sure the PPVs are gonna be just fine. Over deliver city.
  2. Do you mean scale back to weekly studio tapings and do stadium shows for every PPV? Taped vs live is a gigantic difference in drawing in viewers. Not running weekly towns would kill them dead in their tracks and turn them into current day Impact. Which YMMV on if you are entertained by them, but they make nooo money. Studio tapings are a thing that died on the vine 20 years ago. 3000 paying customers in new towns every week surely makes more money than 800-1000 of the same people over and over. And new towns = loud and excited. The same town over and over dont react as passionately. If they could fill stadiums on the regular, yeah that's a great plan. But I don't think they could sell out 4 stadiums in the US per year. I'd happily eat my hat if they tried that and it worked. 1 a year in the US I think they could pull off at this point. But they aren't there yet to try that for every PPV show.
  3. Having people just sort of randomly show up on one of the two shows per weeks isn't the answer. I think a lot of people will tune out if they don't know where their favorites are going to appear. Like up until now if you liked Punk, FTR, BCGold, HOB, Hobbs, Andrade you knew where to find them. You would watch on Saturdays every week. If you are an Elite die hard, you know Wednesday is your night. If they go to the randomizing thing, if you're a Miro fan you have to watch both shows and hope he shows up on one. It's more time investment than some people are willing to put in. I think it would cause a lot of apathy and you're going to see both shows suffer. When Dynamite was the only show they had, you knew it was the important show. Once they started doing Rampage, Dynamite felt a little less special. And Rampage mostly tapered off and became an after thought. Adding in Collision, it at least felt special / different because you were going to get things the other two shows weren't giving you. Dynamite didn't lose anything, because it wasn't taking away from it. Now tho if it's 3 shows & 5 hours of everything being the same thing, it's all less special. It's diluted. Basically the idea I'm trying to get across is this: What is more fun to watch? Two separate 2 hour Marvel Movies that are different tones with different characters, or one 5 hour MCU streaming series that is all the same characters the whole time?
  4. Ha talk about no market penetration. The NWA is not for the sea creatures it seems lol. Tyrus lost the title already. EC3 is NWA Champion now.
  5. Love me some Danielson. But if he's not fully healed up this could be an all time panic fuck up.
  6. I hate brand splits. But at this point a hard brand split would at least shake AEW up and make it feel fresh. Punk is gone. Collision is no longer the Punk & Friends show. It needs a real identity. I suggest they do a hard brand split. Shake a bunch of shit up. Break the BCC up (it's run it's course). Give some new gusy some chances. TK keeps booking Dynamite. Danielson gets Collision. (I say that because TK himself has said he loves Danielson's creative input). Make Rampage an ROH show. Fuck what WBD want, just do it. Let someone else book that. Someone random that isn't on the radar to make it totally stylistically different than Dynamite & Collision. Like Callis or Jarrett. Just continuing on this same path without Punk there seems like continued diminishing returns. There's a lot to like about AEW. But it doesn't really ever feel like anything important happens. Make some dynamic changes and try to ignite some anything can happen vibes. Shrug.
  7. Keith Lee has a fun move set. The Bunny doesn't have a very accurate face. Still happy to have them. Wish they could keep up with 2 new characters a month. But the price... sheesh. $12 for two characters and two mini games? I got them free with the Elite Edition. But aint no one spending that much for those two alone. The kick the shit out of MJF's car mini game is infuriating and I will never play it again lol.
  8. I don't think many are going to agree with my opinion on this but I'm gonna give it anyway. This is pro wrestling. Stop treating this like working in an office. Now Brawl Out was an employee publicly degrading executives, the company, and escalating it into a physical confrontation with thrown chairs broken dog teeth and biting in front of AEW's legal department. That deserved suspensions and investigations. This situation, does not. This is a business full of physicality. Where on accident with no malice from someone you actually like you can have bones broken. This isn't selling insurance. This isn't stocking shelves at Target. Egos and adrenaline and politics and testosterone. Sometimes there's gonna be scuffles. And this is the literal definition of being over blown. Neither one should be suspended. Neither one should miss a PPV. Sit them down and tell Punk if you're in another physical confrontation, whether you instigated it or not you arre getting a mandatory 6 month suspension without pay (and time added onto your deal for it). Then tell Jungleboy if you're involved in another incident you're getting released. To me Jungleboy purposely went angling for this confrontation. So he gets the harsher consequences. But this one is so over blown. You don't want a working environment where you have to fear getting in a fight every day you show up. I get that. But not every little transgression needs a six month audit with legal. Their whole ass job is fake fighting that isn't as fake as it's made out to be. Of course there's gonna be some fights. Quit acting like every one needs to be this super scrutinized and investigated corporate HR dramatization.
  9. Pretty much everything delivered for me, except Stadium Stampede. That was a mess. Bad camera work. Too much going on. Props not cooperating. Liked the finish tho. Man JR was especially bad here in his limited action. Being lost on who was legal in the BC Gold trios, then asking if Freddie Mercury was still alive. Glad he got the hook when he did. If someone could just get him to stop shitting on the product he'd be fine as an occasional special guest commentator. Sting & Darby vs Swreve & Christian was my favorite match. Sting just keeps over delivering especially at his age. Just well worked and a ton of fun. Jericho & Ospreay over delivered too. Minus the one ugly cutter by Jericho, he looked 20 years younger in this one. Bucks vs FTR was great but I get distracted easily and could not stop myself from paying attention to all those streamers stuck in the tron & invading the hard cam shot. Didn't like the ROH Tag Title match in hindsight. It was well worked, but I thought there was going to be a story purpose for it. But ended up mostly being pandering and played no role in the story. Main was solid. I enjoyed their Dynamite match more but still great story telling. I thought the women's match over delivered too. It had quite a few creative beats and ended with a feel good moment. Punk vs Joe was good shit. Especially the finish and the head breaking the table spot. Overall this show was mostly great. I'm a little surprised it was played mostly straight with no heavy handed building to All Out finishes or angles, but in a good way. They let this breathe and didn't make it feel like a setup show. The buys for All out will be interesting, as will the draw fir next year's All In. Will the novelty be gone? Was this a special perfect storm of their debut and it being special or can hey replicate this yearly?
  10. Maybe people did want to sit down and express their love for him. Maybe less people actually wanted to in previous instances as well. I say it that way because it's kind of unfair to place the power of it at the talent's hands in either scenario. It's not like the office goes around backstage asking who would like to speak before they set the structure of the script. The talent don't have much say either way the office decides to go with it. I believe in the past they just filmed anyone that wanted to do it and they would insert as many as they could / wanted to. They made the conscious decision to not do any this time. We all have opinions on if that feels right to us or wrong. But they weren't giving the option this time due to the creative of the script. I feel confident going out on a ledge saying at least some friends and colleagues would have very much wanted to share their feelings and thoughts about a man they loved, if given the choice. Hope this doesn't read as my trying to challenge your thoughts on this one. This is one of those delicate subjects where there's no set in stone right way to think about it. I'm just speaking from how it feels to me and I realize that the way everyone else feels about it is just as valid.
  11. Like I said my perception might be off. But where I am coming from isn't about ratings or the quality of what was shown. I just felt bummed and like Bray and his contributions were minimized compared to other wrestlers that have passed way too young. It was extremely jarring for me to see Grayson Waller coming out to his bright goofy tron dancing around doing his shtick and them pushing the Payback storylines so hard. Nothing I attribute to malice or blame WWE for. As was said either way you go with it there will be detractors. Damned if you do. I understand AEW and WWE are different companies so not apples to apples, but to me Brodie Lee's tribute show was the most moving of all. They let his friends say goodbye. They let his friends go out and do matches in his honor. You could feel the love for him. The entire episode was a celebration to his life, his friends, and his family. Social media was certainly around in 2020 so I don't see that as much of a factor. I'm just really sad. And could be misplacing those feelings. I feel like Bray deserved more but it's just one guy's opinion.
  12. Listen. Maybe my perspective is a bit off here. So feel free to tell me if this reads like an over reaction. I felt like this was a let down in regards to a tribute to a fallen current member of the roster due to a tragic and (mostly) unexpected nature. The opening tribute and the close of the show were phenomenal. Bonus points to them for reaching out to Rowan too. Having Rowan & Braun there was a touching aspect of that open. But this episode rang hollow to me. They went right back to a normal episode of Smackdown and running angles and pushing Payback. Idk. To me this feels like an episode that should have been like the Eddie & the Owen & the Brodie Lee tribute episodes. Just a night of celebration and letting his friends say an on air goodbye. Them just playing a bunch of clips as if it was a DX 25th anniversary episode or something... I don't know. Just felt off to me. What am I missing? Am I alone in this feeling?
  13. I get & agree with the sentiment that there's dozens of women I'd personally rather see. But sometimes there's things you can do like this to just make one of your performers feel loved. Like there's no reason they couldn't throw a quick 10 woman tag on Zero Hour. Wrap it around a captains gimmick where Emi does her deal and Mako Itoh does a dueling singing deal for her side. Like no, based on how Emi has been positioned on TV, it doesn't make sense to feature her. But sometimes doing that kind of thing just because boosts morale. Like people see that the people in charge just care and it makes everyone feel better about the place they work. Not meaning that to come of as a rant. Because I get it. It's hard to disagree with Emi not being on the show. But I also think a gigantic show like this there deserves to be a pre show get a bunch of people on deal for the men and the women. You have 2 title matches on the pre show already. Throw on a quick women's 10 person tag and a men's battle royal. Show the love to as many people as you can. And maybe they do announce two more Zero Hour matches on Collision. Who knows.
  14. Fair play. It's not unbelievable that a certain type of individual could be acting that way. Still, I feel like that is out of character for what we know of Cash's personality. Now I'm well aware there are those that have a different public face vs their private personality. But there's not a lot of evidence Cash is the type that would be a wild man gunslinger just zooming around ready to intimidate (at the very least) randos with a Glock. The affidavit just strikes me as odd. The alleged victim was adamant he couldn't be late for work and made them meet him at a car dealership? I'm getting carny salesman type who recognized Cash and figured he could cash in with a wild story. But that's just conjecture and probably little wishful / hopeful thinking. I guess that's all for the courts to decide.
  15. Reading that it says he pulled to the shoulder and passed while pointing a gun at him? Who drives with the gun in their hand? Who has it at the ready while speeding down the highway? When I saw road rage I had figured there was so some sort of altercation or incident. This reads dude saw a car driving aggressively then it passed him while the dude pointed a gun at him. Seems awfully hard to belive the statement as written.
  16. Right. I'd be shocked if the match doesn't happen. Cash is cooperating. I think it would be very easy for a lawyer to explain this overseas trip is for work and one of his biggest money making opportunities. I don't think they will disallow it as part of the bail process.
  17. I want it to happen. Get him in there man. Luchasaurus loses to Darby & turns of Christian right after with a big surprise save at All Out. (Donno the exact date it expires, if that's even possible). E&C vs FTR. E&C & Rhino vs CMFTR are both things I'd like to see. The nostalgia of them vs The Hardy's one more time. Them vs The Bucks. Them vs BC Gold. I don't really have much desire for Edge to do any singles but there is a lot in the tank for a tag run if he so chooses. I kind of have a feeling he can't bring himself to not end his career in WWE tho. While Christian came and went a few times because he was unwanted, Edge is basically a lifer. Would be pretty surprising to see him change that near the finish line. But who knows. I'll enjoy it if we get it.
  18. The only gimmick I have is stating my opinions and trying to back them up. On the other hand there's at least 2-3 posts a day you post that make me say out loud holy fucking shit that's the dumbest thing I've ever seen on this board. Let's not forget you argued that right of first refusal means WCW had to say no to the $60million dollar offer on the table from Fusient Media because WWE offered $2.5 million instead over in the Dark Side thread. So I guess I'll just defer to your superior intelligence and walk away in shame
  19. As stated I find it unethical. Those three went out and did something that company couldn't do for themselves. All In outdrew what ROH could draw. All In pulled in more ppv buys than ROH could at the time. All In made more waves and buzz than ROH ever did. It's pretty simple. Im always a bit taken aback when people side with the big companies taking credit for something they had no part in. If ROH wanted to own something like All In they should have put the work in to make one happen. Not take someone else's accomplishment and just slap their little (TM) after it. You are free to disagree with me on it. But stop acting like what I'm saying is some foreign concept with no basis. Also I have no idea how The Bucks or Cody feel about this subject one way or the other. My view point isn't predicated on what their viewpoint is tho. Even if they were totally fine with it I still find it unethical.
  20. The entirety of the promotion and all of the social media posts from Cody & The Bucks at the time were very forthright about how this was a show coming out of their own pockets. It was a giant risk with no promise of return on investment. They were going All In and putting their own money where their mouth was in response to Meltzer's tweet. They did countless videos and vlogs talking about this being their first experience booking talent and juggling budgets and securing deals for the Zero Hour to be on WGN. It was in no way funded by Ring of Honor. They hired ROH's filming & production crew and were allowed to use ROH theme musics, that's it. Somehow in the details of that, ROH negotiated to own the event footage & rights. Which my point is, even if Cody & The Bucks signed off on that to get ROH's production, I think that's a shady and unethical thing for ROH to demand.
  21. Okay. I don't begrudge you for that stance. But you're not being rational. Because the objective is to put on the best pair of shows they can put on in the same week (both in quality & in money made). I think it's stupid they booked 2 PPVs in the same week. But that's the cards that are dealt in this scenario. And it enters yelling at clouds territory to expect them to make All Out into an episode of Rampage just so all the best stuff can happen at All In. The have two shows in the same week. They have to book the stories in tandem. The only opponents bigger for Punk than Joe (with where we are now) are MJF unification, Danielson, Kenny / Bucks / Hangman stuff that won't happen. Anything else needs a story built to it to have any aura or meaning. Jay White would be a really good match. But it doesn't have any bigger feel than the Joe match will have with where we are now. We're in agreement the build has under delivered. I am the first one to rant about how the longer PPV windows *should* mean matches announced further out with longer promotion and hype. There's a more rational middle ground between the crappy build and ultimate dream match mania ends of the spectrum tho. I'm just trying to slide you closer to the middle where I feel the reaction belongs.
  22. No, my stance is pro the performers and anti the large entities that do petty things that stifle creativity and do punitive damage just because. Tony Khan isn't part of this equation. The Bucks & Cody should own the rights to the name All In & the footage to it. Not the old ROH. Not even the current AEW. If they sell or license it to TK, cool or whatever. You seem to like to lick the boots of the big corporations and advocate for the workers to just shut the fuck up and be happy with their pittance. Pretty gross if you ask me.
  23. What in the actual fuck are you talking about? Smart Mark isn't a wrestling promotion that told Mike Burns hey brother you can go out and do your own side project. And then after the fact went like well like sikkeeee, all the work you put in is actually our property. Smart Mark is a videographer service that you hire. You pay them x dollars. They produce your DVDs / streams and you split the profits with them based upon the deal you signed. But they don't own your footage. They just produce / display it based upon the contract you sign. Horrible analogy for this situation.
  24. I understand your thought process. But I don't understand what you're advocating for. Just the specific matches you want? Punk vs Joe is one of the top 3 or 4 Punk matches they can run. Yes they ran a TV version already within the last month. But if you watched that you saw two guys holding way back. Probably because they knew they'd get more time to tell a better story in a few weeks. Bucks vs FTR is the biggest tag team title match they can put on. I agree I wish there was more build to it. But they have years of previous history to call upon. While it hasn't been built to cleanly, this is a dream match for sure. MJF vs Cole is the hottest story they have had in awhile. This is hotter than the 4 pillars match that actually main evened the actual "AEW WrestleMania". Double or Nothing was their first PPV the one they view as the biggest of the 4. Jericho vs Osprey is janky. But it has story build behind it. They just haven't finished telling the story yet. Callis put a wedge between Jericho & his family. Now when Jericho agrees to join Callis, he goes whoa whoa whoa Chris you're just not Callis Family material. I just wanted to introduce you to my newest client, and make sure you didn't have any friends to interrupt this introduction. Then Osreay gets him from behind. Instant match justification. Omega/Hangman/Ibushi vs Takeshta/White/Juice sounds DOPE AS FUCK to me. That match is going to be 10x hotter than Omega vs Takeshta alone, in my opinion. I also fully believe the thought process here to give each Callis story a spotlight singles match between the two shows. The Callis Jericho stuff gets All in the Callis Omega stuff gets the singles at All Out. That doesn't mean this match is dogshit, or unworthy of an 80,000 crowd. What you're also not factoring in is what the workers want. Omega loves Ibushi. Omega loves Hangman. He himself has probably pushed to be able to team with his friends and do something he finds fun for this show. The women have been booked poorly. The 4 way is not ideal at all and I'm not gonna sugar coat this one or defend it. Coffin match is a perfect Sting match for this show. He hasn't chosen to retire yet. You can't do some giant retirement angle against the man's wishes. That's how you get resentment like WWE making Flair retire. I too think this should be Mox vs OC and not the trios. But again you cant give everything the spotlight it deserves on this show and give nothing to All Out. The trois match being here makes sense. It pays off the dangling Kingston story thread. It will lead to Mox vs OC at All Out. Just because this sold 80k tickets doesn't mean you absolutely cannibalize your future events just to empty the tank for the big crowd. You keep referencing this should be WrestleMania because of the huge crowd. But when the hell has WWE even booked a WrestleMania like that? You get 4 or 5 marquee matches with mostly filler or multi man matches thrown in with some let me up heehaw stuff. I think you're fighting from a straw man position here because the only real points of contention you've raised are 'do it like a WrestleMania' and 'every match should be a dream match'. And that's not a realistic possibility. WM3 wasn't booked like that. SS92 wasn't booked like that. Collision in Korea wasn't booked like that. None of these giant stadium shows have ever been what you're asking for. And the most important point here, the original All In wasn't that either. So I don't get the justification for all the outrage you have.
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