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But there's always going to be people that say no because they're savy enough to understand there's no time for them there. Money doesn't always buy everyone. Plus AEW can just replenish from Japan & the indies. I understand your premise I just don't think it's logistically possible. The only chance would be for TKO to purchase the whole company. Seeing as how TK is independently weathly that also isn't going to happen because he doesn't need another billion dollars.

My counter point to that would be this, after a certain point so many guys going to WWE would flood their systems. Guys would get burnt going because they'd either be logging millions of miles just to eat catering or they'll be stuck on Speed & Main Event. There's only so many spots. There's always going to be dudes trying to maximize their value and staying in AEW would become the attractive option because you'd actually get used and pushed because the roster has thinned out. They're not competition for WWE at this point. They're never catching up. So why act like having so and so go to WWE is some catastrophic blow? No one is gonna make a difference for AEW leaving outside of the tippy top guys like Omega & Ospreay. These are all really good points and I don't have much of a counter to any of them. You're right we don't know the individual details of each situation. I'm just saying, while what you said is all 100% right, in his shoes I'd be trying to be the company that has the good vibes. At this point catching WWE seems impossible. You've had 5 years to try and you're so much further apart form them today than you were 5 years ago. You're not competitive. What you're doing isn't working. Change your vibe. Be the place people like to go because it's not a corporate machine chewing them up and spitting them out.

Id go out on a limb and say there's always a degree of "I can do it better" in all of our posts criticizing him. And the truth is probably much closer to "no the fuck you cant" than most of us would like to admit lol. But in his shoes I dont see a benefit to the ice outs. At best he's delaying the inevitable. And in the process creating new Steve Austin's that are gonna be so motivated to fuck him over they'll get hot and redefine the whole business like his Bischoff grudge drove him to do. Be the nice guy. Be the boss people want to work for. Who cares if people say you're getting walked on. Build a culture where people *want* to work with you and for you. There's no benefit to being a dick about it all. You look bad to the fans, it doesn't hurt WWE, you look bad to other workers who might not wanna come in now. You piss off the iced out guys. There's literally no upside.

Generally, with what's known of WWE contracts, yes. Bi weekly payouts of your downside guarentee. In WWE's pay structure royalties are paid out quarterly I believe. With AEW there are no royalties. So probably an equal 26 split of your guarentee. As for Starks, let's also not forget he's a Punk guy. Maybe it wasn't a TK call to use Collision to elevate him, maybe it was a Punk call. I don't see an issue with Starks asking to not have his option picked up. If he wants to go, holding him hostage is only going to light a fire for him to go off when he's finally free.

Looks like you missed the point. The point being, I wanted to make a Yappapi Strap Match joke. Sorry I'll take that to one of the other 8 threads where it might be appreciated.

AEW is hot right now. How hot? We've spent the last 3 pages talking about laser discs, apple music, and Ah-Ha in the once heated financials thread lol. I feel like an equivelent conversation was happening in wrestling forums about WCW right around the time The Yappapi Strap Match was going down. History is repeating.

No. Slut shaming people and flipping the fuck out because Sammy & Tay were dating and hid it from him at a signing or whatever don't deserve an apology. That guy was a psycho. Britt being a dick or not a dick wasn't the issue. His whole deal was that she fucked an internet news person to advance in the business and didn't deserve to be in AEW. He also went on rants in the football folder about the NFL being scripted and costing him money on his bets. Fuck that guy.

If a contract runs out, there isn't a no compete. So if his contract is up by January 31st he would be free and clear. But early March is when I last saw people mentioning. They just decided to ice him out because they know he won't be coming back. Cena up for the men's, no idea for the women's. Jordynn Grace maybe? Cena vs Cody & Gunther vs Jey Uso. (Punk vs Roman as an attraction) for the men. Rhea vs Becky & Tiffany vs Jordynn Grace for the women (Jade & Nia vs Naomi & Bianca for the women's tags).

A Giants fan's nightmare, Philly vs Washington championship game. I'm happy Barkley is killing it, but what a gross game next week. I excluded the Cowboys because we know they can't make it to a championship game lol.

I feel like Washington has a good shot to win next week against The Eagles. The Rams are a little more explosive and might give them a tougher game. Has a rookie QB ever made it to a Super Bowl before?

How have they quit? They need 17. That's 3 scores. Tale the sure points and stay in the game. You don't get a first down or a td there the game is officially over. They have all 3 time outs left. They haven't given up I just don't think they were paying attention enough to see the running clock.

Its a combo of having to stop Washington 4 straight downs since they play like a 12 year old playing Madden, and all those injuries on defense. I feel so bad for Lions fans.

Live by the trick play die by the trick play. That's a wrap. Gonna be a tough pill to swallow. Bummer I was really pulling for a Bills Lions Super Bowl.

At some point someone in NFL media (ESPN, Fox, CBS, Prime, Netflix, somebody) is going to have to go in on how often refs get calls wrong in favor of The Chiefs. Its a drastic asterisk on their dynasty. Theres not a game that passes where they don't flop or sneak a bullshit call. It's preposterous that no ever talks about it on air.

If a QB slides and there's contact around him between opposing players (that doesn't even hit his head) that's somehow a penalty. But only if you're a Chief. The refs in this are a fucking joke. And I'm shocked players and coaches on the Texans can keep their composure. I'd be losing it.

Jesus fucking christ. If anyone defends that call they need locked up in a padded room. He wasn't even hit!

That missed extra point hurts the momentum pretty bad. So close to being tied but now still down.

A roughing the passer that wasn't roughing nets them 3 points. A non call for offsides on a field goal leads to 7 points. They are +10 points off of bullshit. None of that shows up on the stats you're looking at. If it were just a few times it's happened it'd be annoying but fine. It happens in every Chiefs game. For YEARS now. It's maddening.

Has there ever been a team gifted so mqny flags? How is it always The Chiefs ALWAYS benefiting?

I don't think you can compare the NFL to scripted entertainment. WCW's downfall and over saturation would have all been moot if the creative was there. WWE has sustained 5 hours of weekly first run live programming for over 20 years now. So over saturation wasnt the issue. Football isn't reliant on creative to keep people interested. The enjoyment comes from rooting your team on and watching actual competition. The enjoyment is always going to be there.

2 week pre season, 2 games. 20 week regular season, 18 games & 2 bye weeks. That seems like the sweet spot. There's 2 extra weeks of regular season tv revenue, menaing a higher salary cap and more money for all. There would be expanded rosters from 53 to 58. Which means 160 more players making a living on active rosters. Also 2 bye weeks so you get a little more rest than the current format. I don't see a negative here. Sure it's an extra game of wear and tear. But you get an extra week off to off-set that. Fans happy. Players happy. Owners happy. TV networks happy. Let's do it.

I get that and I agree actually. But you have to take into consideration how they've been produced tho. Given the freedom to call things more naturally and without the mandates Vince made him follow for 10 years maybe Graves would sound nothing like what he currently sounds like on WWE TV. What they sound like is what Vince wanted. I know he's gone. But there's still a lot of his weird quarks that were put into place that they follow. With the handcuffs off he could be a totally different / better version of himself. Hey he could also be exactly the same. Or even worse. But just a blanket statement that someone worked in WWE so you don't want them isn't really fair. Have to give these people chances and judge on the individual performances.

YA! Helll yeah! Lets stick to Shivonne, Taz, Renee & Nigel! Oh wait. Literally all were WWE announcers too. (JR too but that would detract from my point not add to it lol). Not directed at you personally here obviously. But I hate this talking point when it's talent. I hate this talking point with announcers & staff too. Discounting talented people just because they made a living in WWE is crazy. Graves is a great talker. This is definitely a work. But if it wasn't, letting him be the lead guy on Collision would be an improvement. Ex, Tony, & Taz on Dynamite. Graves, Nigel, & Menard on Collision. What's the problem there?

The way the TV seems to be going I could see Mox -> Cope -> Christian -> Jarrett -> MJF. There's literally no way that's what will actually happen tho right? RIGHT?! They don't do that frequent of changes so I actually don't expect that lol.

My number one least favorite aspect would be the strict rigidity of the formating of Dynamite. 6 matches every single week. Only one of them is a Women's match. Every match goes at least 10 and has a PIP break. You'll never have that anything can happen feel when it's the same thing every fucking week.