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Well, personally, I think Griffey has the best shot since he got fat, not ripped. Other than Unit, the next guy MIGHT be Chipper in 2018. Then Jeter. And Mike Crudale.

So basically Hart, Perez or both are full of shit? OK. Well at least talking about Al Perez has been more interesting than watching him.

Good call but...face Gilbert DID get us this:

Oh there are tons of holes in this, agreed. I am just going from what Gary Hart claimed. Perez was scheduled for a match with Flair in Florida - Lakeland, per Josh Mann above. Why anyone cared to go with match...who knows? To test Perez out to be a future face? Shrug. Perez started telling Hart he was going to shoot on Flair to get the NWA title. Hart tries to talk Perez out of it. Perez blows Hart off. Hart goes to Flair and the office. Perez gets fired. Personally, I can't get past anyone thinking that paying fans would want to see Perez in a world title match. But that's just me. But yeah, this would reek of wrestling urban legend if Hart didn't report himself in his book. It still smells of BS to me.

Agreed. I had never heard the story before until I skimmed thru the Hart book that a co-worker had. This would have to be late-ish 88 (post-GAB, before Starrcade 88) when it happened and Flair was not/very rarely at best facing heels by that point so the story never really added up to me. From memory, Hart claims Perez was getting a match in Florida. So since that was Perez' home state, MAYBE he would have been presented as a face??? But the biggest thing to me other than Flair not facing heels at the time is - Perez was not over in WCW! Why would anyone think anyone would give a shit about a Perez-Flair match when no one cared when Perez was facing anyone else? Doesn't really pass the sniff test to me. But I have no idea why Hart would have made that up. As far as point B goes...Dusty was the booker in 88. Ole was the booker in 90. I am pretty certain Ole did not give a shit what Flair might have thought about bringing Perez back and...really...did ANYONE REALLY want in on the Black Scorpion angle? Dunno.

Hart covers all this in his book. Perez was something of a shooter. No idea if he could have taken Flair but he supposedly could handle things (and Perez WAS trained by Steve Keirn and Boris Malenko so if the Malenko's were involved, Al could PROBABLY handle his own). He obviously THOUGHT he could take Flair in a shoot - especially if Flair was not expecting it. Hart was tight with Flair and he was managing Perez. Hart squealed on Perez only AFTER trying to talk Perez out of doing something dumb. When Hart couldn't talk sense into Perez, Hart went to Flair and the office and Perez was gone.

Perez supposedly threatened to shoot on Flair and win the NWA title. According to Gary Hart, Perez told Hart of this, Hart told Flair and Perez was quickly gone from WCW.

Whoa! Regal-Barry Windham? Yes, please! http://youtu.be/AyAkc97rRAA

Ahh, here we go. Sweet-sweet WCW.

Hmm. So let's see... If we conservatively call the beginning of the ROID ERA~~!!!! 1988 when Caseco had his monster year - we probably should go with 87 but let's be conservative. Maybe the roids were not appealing to other players until 1988 for whatever reason... Morris had a 20 win season in 1992. So clearly that does not count. Two of his Cy and MVP votes came in 91 and 92. So those two do not count. So Morris is down to 2 20 win seasons. Five seasons with Cy votes and three seasons with MVP votes. So...how exactly is Morris a better candidate than, say, Dave Steib? RINGZ~!!!!????

Yeah, so very happy Phil went with Ayala and left me to post this. Savage's hat makes me happy to be alive.

Yeah, Stan teaming with...Sid is something.

So the Hansen squash had Rippa and me confused by the appearance of Tommy Rich. And then we found this! Mmmm, Hansen.

Umm, no. Ted never saw combat action in WW2. At all. He was a flight instructor and played baseball - never even made it past Hawaii. So his duty in WW2 was about the same as DiMaggio's - aside from Ted at least being a flight instructor. Let's not even go into how Ted tried to fight going into the service in WW2. He DID serve in Korea though. But even then Ted tried to fight going. So...it's sorta Coleman in a walk for military duty. But...we're picking nits. Great Americans. USA. E-T-C.