NintendoLogic

Oh, God. It's really happening. HHH is the higher power behind the Wyatts. That aside, what Bryan did tonight is exactly what he should have been doing the past couple of months. You screw him over, he fucks you up.

And he recovered in time to raise Orton's hand. After that giant did the hard part and laid him out. If he doesn't want the title, the past two months make no sense.

Yep. He's never been a superhero. Never. He lost in 18 seconds to Sheamus and came out of it stronger. That's why I think you guys should stop getting so wound up about individual wins and losses. It hasn't mattered before. He was second to leave NXT. He was fired for choking someone with a tie. He won the US Title and jobbed a ton. He isn't affected by these things the way shit guys like McIntyre and Barrett are. Somehow, despite the nature of the business, people will follow the guy down as well as up. So chill the fuck out. My initial hypothesis on the success of this angle was because Bryan's the wrestler wrestling fans can relate to the most. He's a genuinely geeky dude fighting a power structure made up of cool kids that want one of their own to have the belt. He's the goofball with the messy desk who didn't get the job promotion because the frat guy boss passed him up for a younger "brother." He's the chubby girl in high school who can sing and act her ass off who is relegated to being a Pink Lady because the pretty girl's mom is on the board of trustees at the community theater. He's a band like the amazing Luna who get signed to a major label but don't get radio airplay while some nimrods like the dreadful Eve 6 or Alien Ant Farm end up selling out arenas.That's why Bryan has this success. He's been an easily identifiable underdog since Day 1. Fired from the Nexus angle. His first feud was with The Miz, the ultimate in WWE marketing who cruelly mentored him and put him down. He had a great run with the Smackdown belt and lost it to Sheamus, who is a talented wrestler but definitely someone who oozes the phoniness of a guy who wants to go to charity events to cement his career and not because he gives a crap about other people. He got saddled with what should have been a DOA gimmick w/ Kane and turned it into one of the most entertaining comic acts in a really long time.He's not a Superman and he never will be, and thinking he should be is a wrong way to look at things, especially if you complain about Cena always being a superhero who overcomes the odds. You've described exactly what's wrong with this angle (well, besides HHH saying Bryan isn't good enough to be a top guy and essentially being proven right). Wrestling is escapist entertainment. A guy who constantly eats shit from his boss and never gets any meaningful victories isn't someone the fans can live vicariously through.

So he really is a B-plus player.Let's face it, tippy-top guys in WWE are superheroes. They overcome the odds with regularity. They don't have the rug pulled out from under them time and time again.

Wait, what? I think you have WWE confused with JCP. WWE's business model has been built around dynastic babyfaces for the past 50 years.There are still people insisting that there's a glorious payoff waiting down the road. Unbelievable.

Cena/ADR was probably their best match together, but I feel like it should've been much better. Cena's injured arm should have been the main source of drama. Instead, it seemed like it was barely inconveniencing him.

And Bryan remains 0-for-life in getting one over on HHH. Guess he really is a B-plus player.

Yeah. He said Jericho, Edge, and someone else I forget were all good guys, but if they were the face of the WWE, they'd all be working for Ted Turner today. He then basically said that no one is going to want to pay to watch guys like that or Daniel Bryan, and they pay to watch him fight guys like Brock, and those guys have no interest in fighting someone like DB.Imagining corporate HHH approaching a Mayweather or whomever with a binder full of junior heavyweights. "I tried, boys!" Is HHH Mitt Romney now?

The dirtsheets were reporting a while back that Orton/Bryan was scheduled to be blown off at HIAC and that Orton was scheduled to be in the title picture through the Rumble. Make of that what you will. So am I the only one who noticed them planting the seeds for a Bryan/HHH match?

Alberto Del Rio is Spanish for Jeff Jarrett.

I really liked the main event, but I also feel like it was a bit of a missed opportunity. With the no-DQ stip, they could have an All Japan-style tag with guys constantly running in and lots of brawling on the outside. Instead, we got a standard WWE tag, albeit a very good one, for the most part. Moving on, it's amazing how much more interesting the Bryan/Orton feud is when HHH and Steph aren't at the center of it. Orton ramping up the sociopathy was great. The downside is being subjected to Brie's acting, but that's a sacrifice I'm willing to make.

If Benoit counts as a Japanese wrestler, so should Stan Hansen and Volk Han.

If those storylines and action have a negative impact on business, WWE will stop producing them. Pretty simple, really.

If FSW is Bruce Lee, Gonzalez is Dragon: The Bruce Lee Story.

As much as I hate to validate this idiocy with a response, it needs to be pointed out that the eight Raws since Summerslam have drawn an average rating of 2.9. By comparison, the first eight post-Summerslam Raws in 2012, when you-know-who was champion, drew an average rating of 2.86. And Cena hasn't been around to boost ratings this year. Also, for the record, the lowest-rated non-holiday Raw of the last 15 years was on October 22, 2012. Guess who was in the main event?

Hey, I'm a Bryan fan. But I would like to see whether he's had a tangible impact on business either way.

The vast majority of whom would have bought tickets even if Bryan weren't on the show. Raw crowd reaction can't really be used as a barometer.

Wait, did Khali use Big Boss Man as a weapon?

Punk/Lesnar is MOTY by a mile. Cena/Bryan was like ****1/4. I have no issue with a list comprised mainly of Shield matches, but I have no idea what kind of order to put them in since they all blend together for me.

More likely a triple threat unification match with World Heavyweight Champion John Cena, WWE Champion Randy Orton, and Being John Cena Champion Daniel Bryan.

I think the current state of Hulk Hogan is probably foreshadowing for how Cena will end up one day. Maybe even worse, since Hogan never took anything close to the crazy bumps Cena has. But Cena never worked 400 days a year, brother.

Cena will never be free of WWE. Even when he dies. Stephanie will just roll out the coffin and announce the corpse is getting a title shot at the next pay-per-view. And he'd still be a better champion than The Miz.

I'm glad WWE succeeded in getting Show over as a huge babyface. That was the goal, wasn't it?

FWIW, slavery isn't barbaric. Noble economic arrangement with a rich tradition.

You don't have to eliminate the secondary titles, just put them all on the same guy. That way, Del Rio could start calling himself the US-Continental Heavyweight Champion. Maybe he could draw some heat then.