Technico Support

No, but fans do wonder what the hell they’re doing here. Word is the general impression is they don’t belong here.

Vince did Saudi shows despite the outcry after the Kashoggi murder. He absolutely would have played Sun City.

Even with only two people at the gym, odds are that guy is still on the pec deck right when you need it.

Yes! The fact that he had three matches with Rude and only one was any good is the telling part. I need to dig through the WWE network thread and find my notes. Rude was so awesome and Warrior almost killed him at least twice.

Same guy was there today. After his extensive Smith benching, he did Smith squats, with even worse ROM than benching! I swear, maybe 10 degree knee bends. I’m fascinated.

I’m just saying Becky crediting Vince alone with all her good fortune in life is sad.

Exactly! They’d be a great get 10-15 years ago.

I can’t remember which is which, but whatever the second match in the series was, was the best for me. Warrior had his rare working boots on and never came close to fucking up and killing Rude, which is more than I can say for the other two. Seeing the third match actually regress was depressing.

This is the Jedi Mind Trick/wrestlers are insecure thing again. That company needs to hire a cult deprogrammer.

I’ll respectfully disagree with both points. I fairly recently re-watched every WWF PPV up to maybe 92 and I have to tell you that Warrior was awful. He had three marquee matches with Rude and two were terrible. His match with Savage was a triumph of storytelling overcoming poor work and seriously, fuck kicking out of 5 flying elbows. That’s not work, it’s spectacle. His match with Hogan was a miracle rooted in lots of planning. Hogan could and did work. I dislike the narrative that Hogan was lazy in the U.S. It’s often peddled by people amazed that Hogan did maybe three more moves when working in Japan. Yes, after 86 he transitioned into more of a routine worker but shit, Flair was a routine worker too. Hogan got by on charisma and a routine but the idea that he couldn’t or didn’t also work when he was in the ring is just wrong. I feel like a lot of wrestling criticism has its roots in Meltzer’s writing in the 80s, where guys who worked a technical style were just automatically seen as better workers. Which is pretty funny if you think about it; smart fans were getting worked and believing the “scientific wrestler” gimmick. It was shocking, rewatching all this stuff, how so many wrestlers considered “bad” by conventional wisdom (typically big guys who worked a more power or brawling style, Hercules Hernandez for example) were really competent workers.

All this but swap Austin/Bret double turn match for Austin/Michaels. Maybe honorable mention to the screwjob, too. Also, it’s wild that maybe 97% of the matches mentioned so far are Attitude era and earlier. Almost nothing WWE did after killing all their competition matters at all, it’s just content. Some real Ozymandias shit, nothing left to conquer.

Yeah, this is the thing. There needed to be an explanation of why BCC wasn’t in the tournament after beating FTR and apparently becoming the top team in AEW on the last PPV. Because sure, FTR wins the tournament, but then BCC shows up like, “well you never beat us, though, and we’re the best!” but then there’s the gaping logic hole of, “well why weren’t you in the tournament then?” It’s like Hogan and Andre being inexplicably left out of the Mania 4 tournament and then showing up on Superstars the next week to challenge Savage.

This and this. The exception being booze with zero calorie soda

Honest apologies for offending Primus fans. I should have said it’s like Tommy Wisseau claiming The Room was always meant to be satire or comedy.

I can't stand any idolize/cosplay gimmick if it's just pretty much 1:1. I've already seen Bret, Shawn, Tully, Arn, etc. the first time. In person, multiple times. I need something more than "hey remember these guys! You liked them, right?" Hate the Bucks all you want but when they were doing Rockers cosplay while at the same time stealing the clique's gimmicks, they were trying to be annoying. FTR is the Force Awakens of wrestling.

This reminds me of that series of Achewood strips where Ray is prank calling various other comic strip characters and Beef is cheering him on. Someone's going to be laughing in my ear and asking me to do Mike Bailey next.

I applaud them for being two dull mechanics who turned "being two dull mechanics" into their gimmick. Some real 3D chess there. Like, "we're not two boring, nondescript white guys whose only value is giving you a good 20 minutes! We're old school wrestlers!" Gotta respect that hustle. It's like a con inside a con inside a con. Con-ception. It's like when Primus turned "Primus sucks" into a catchphrase, thus sidestepping legitimate criticism. It's funny to realize guys like John Walters just had to take their "boring technician" gimmick a few more inches into 70s & 80s cosplay territory and they would have been something.

After every 3rd or 4th Bryan Danielson match, The Natural has to replace the asterisk key on his keyboard due to wear.

Apparently it's on the special edition but sometimes aired when the movie was shown on TV as well, so that's probably why people remember it. I guess it was scrapped for time but re-added for TV since they needed to make up time with other things cut for TV. The special edition also has a set-up scene where you get a look at life on the colony before everything goes to shit. Not a bad scene but, again, some stuff just gets thrown out to tighten the movie up.

I just side-eye the Smith because it feels dangerous in that it locks what should be fluid exercises into a flat plane of motion. It also keeps you from strengthening stabilizers because, well, you're not using stabilizers. I only use it for calf raises.

OMG Dave and Bryan going round and round about that yesterday made me dumber for having heard it. 10 Print "Bryan says: it was fucking dumb to put them clean over FTR and then keep them out of the tournament" 20 Print "Dave says: lots of promotions throughout history have done things like that. It's about making money, not logical booking" 30 GOTO 10 Dave, who has made a career calling out bad, illogical booking, reversing to say that if it makes dollars, it doesn't need to make sense, is certainly something.

Every time I start to feel bad about my hair thinning and getting patchy in front a few years back, leading me to just shave it weekly with a 1 guard, I'll revisit this thread. Thanks, dudes!

You are exactly right! Old man brain strikes again.

Every time I see Jericho's weave/plugs/otherwise fake hair get all sweaty and sticking out in all directions, I can't help but think of Bill Murray in Kingpin.

Oh man I remember being psyched to buy WCW Nitro for the PS1 back in the day. It was so long ago I think I bought it at KB Toys. What an absolute pile of shit. We were so convinced that DDP was a hidden character that we put the CD in a computer and tried to dig around; there was no way WCW's hottest new star wasn't in the game, right? What an absolute disappointment that game was.