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That you keep bringing up when you were a kid, not any concrete information about drawing or even general voter opinion on work quality, and having to what if based pretty much entirely on your markdom really does little but prove my point that there's no case of note for him. Except neither are in nor will either ever be. That doesn't change that even Luger was able to draw better than Sting opposite a guy like Flair while being booked by the same terrible bookers or that Goldberg, not Sting, was the man on top when WCW was at its business peak.
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The argument is that he's Sting and nobody has ever heard of most of the people being inducted. Sting was only a bad draw because of shitty booking. The nWo isn't nearly as big a deal without Sting lurking in the shadows. Move over Gordy List, the "But it's Sting!" case tops all. If Sting was only a bad draw because of booking, a guy like Luger wouldn't have out-drawn him while working with the same guys, with the same quality of booking.
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Maybe not quality wise, but Goldberg's short run, until they fucked it up, did WCW's best business and was their peak, even despite going against a white hot WWF product at the time. Meltzer has written about it plenty over the years (often in Sting for HoF "debates" for that matter); dig through some old WONs or WC posts, if you need to.
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Brock doesn't deserve to be in either. He didn't get in this year, but if he goes back to UFC and pops some buys, he probably will get in in the future though. Not that that will make any sense. This is fucking dumb. Like...really dumb. It's truth though? I loved Sting growing up too. Doesn't mean his own peers and industry folk view him as an all-time worker (because they clearly don't) or that his drawing was up to snuff enough to counter (because it wasn't). And he wasn't the top face when WCW was at its peak; that was Goldberg.
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It's a long dead horse, but there really isn't a solid argument for Sting as a HOFer beyond fan nostalgia.
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At the time, Batista was allegedly seen as the next top-top guy too. Merchandise sales and demographic appeal, among other factors, changed things shortly after that show and Cena shot ahead, never to be caught.
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You don't have to worry about HHH; they tried to pitch that match last year and Steve basically laughed in their face over it. He had/has no interest on that front.If he comes back, it'll be for Brock (who he's stated several times is the guy who intrigues him most) or Cena.
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Nick Hogan was actually training to be a wrestler a few years ago. He picked up some minor injury and decided it wasn't for him after all and quit.
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Probably everyone on this board would know who he was if he ever revealed his name.
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Er, calling a Samoan man a dumb monkey, right down to acting like an ape for effect, is absolutely racist. Even the most ignorant crusty old white southerner would probably recognize that by now. Not sure why WWE can't and why you think people are overreacting by calling it what it was.
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I always wondered where they were going to go with the hobble gobble version when Nash got hurt, as they didn't seem to have any direction at all for them. Were they going to run Triple H/Nash that summer/fall? Re-live the glory of Nash/Big Show as part of a split arc?
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According to Lanny, Savage actually wanted and had come up with a multiple WM spanning storyline with Michaels (1994-ish, I think?) and when he pitched it to Vince, Vince pretty much dismissed it out of hand and all but blew him off. Pissed Randy off quite a bit, allegedly.
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All the momentum they had going for them coming out of Mania and the post-Mania Raw is beyond gone. Certainly can't fault the crowds for being as dead as they've become lately, not even caring enough to go full "smark."
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RVD's only been back for little over a month, but it feels like at least six and that he's due for another break. Hopefully Barrett can survive him for one special event and move on.
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If Punk was going to break out in a way that would massively change business, he would have done it in the summer of 2011. The angle was ruined in the end, sure, but even before Triple H and Kevin Nash firmly stepped into it, it's not like he was showing signs of moving numbers in a way that way that would lead anyone to realistically think he could be built into an Austin/Hogan, at least not in the era of media/entertainment consumption we're in.
