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I wonder if anybody in WWE actually understands real sports. When you get traded for "future considerations" in the real world, that means your a jobber and a team basically gave up on you. It's one step above just being fired or cut.

I agree with this assertion. In an alternate universe I wonder what would have happened if you swap HHH's push with Jericho's. My take is that business would have been substantially better, and I would have enjoyed it more.

FWIW, there are lots of stories about Kobe being almost exactly like Jordan, especially at practice.

IIRC, the last time they made the wildcard rule, it was on the fly with little to no explanation, and the rules that were explained were quickly broken. It could work if they actually put some effort into writing stories around it. Spoiler: They won't.

Great, they're going to ruin survivor series.

I did 20 years in the USMC and the goal of leadership is always mission accomplishment and then troop welfare. It's fascinating to me that Jordan's leadership style closely resembled that. I don't have to tell anyone the difference between decisions in the military and the NBA but I was clearly getting that vibe. I forgot about the SI cover with Jordan "embarrassing" minor league baseball, what a joke. Minor league baseball has two objectives, make money and develop players. Trying to win is what they do, but nobody, including the parent clubs in the MLB really care if they win or not. So if I'm a team owner that can field at least a semi-competent player that can probably double my season revenue? That's a no-brainer.

And honestly, "wrestler X won a match easily but gave jobber too much offense to be seen as a big star" is a quintessentially dumb 2020 wrestling talking point.

My thought all along was she knew it was Moolah the whole time and the screwjob was the finish. Maybe they told Richter she would pin Moolah and she would unmask and get a pop from the crowd.

What's bigger than China, Bish? We need to go big here.

I would say it would have to be more than just a bit lower. This would be the definition of "selling low".

Completely different than any of that. A situation that you work in a company with a well known history of putting "the brand" first, and you do anything to support the brand because that's what you do. and if you get sick or sneeze, much less ask for time off, your weak. You completely understand that if you "ask" for time off, you might very well might get sent packing. You are being forced to come to work, because of you don't, you understand through the history of the leadership of your company it's a bad thing. None of this is a reach, in any way.

So if they don't wan't their push to go away they sort of have to work? Like, they are being sort of forced? I mean, no one has a gun to their head and is marching them to the performance center. I guess it depends on what "forced" means in this context.

Here's a link to the above referenced, I think. It's about the XFL folding/Vince is a carney stuff. It looks like Vince woke up one morning and changed plans on the XFL, much like a Reigns Wrestlemania match. https://www.sportsbusinessdaily.com/SB-Blogs/Breaking-News/2020/04/XFL.aspx?mkt_tok=eyJpIjoiTWpVd1l6ZzNPVEprTWpOayIsInQiOiJaUGtRVTVyRzZwOUZNR1FlUnVJc2pFdDlVQTlKaWJNUDM4bFVhMUk4WXV2S1ZucElyQ21qK2pkZENhNTFcL0h1dEdvbnBDZklEOWRWQTkwSkswQ0NYR2pESjd1Zk9ZUVZ5YXhBWW8yVkE4YTdCd0t5Tm5TcVo2NW1zaHVBdGZSWkQ1ZmNkK1A2ZXM3Z05hXC9uMHJkdE1HQT09In0%3D

For the purposes of the conversation that was happening, what I'm saying is the WWE no longer holds any power over any of these people. He can't "make" them come back.

Wow, that's a brutal question. I'd say slight edge to Jordan, but I am more of a sports fan. I would really have to hear from other countries because I have no idea as far the NBA's popularity worldwide at that point. What's your take?

Here's the thing. Weather you are furloughed or released or whatever, if a company isn't paying you, you can do whatever the fuck you want. The same thing applies to a no compete clause. The WWE pays somebody 90 days to sit at home. If they want to go work somewhere else, they can. They just stop getting whatever that money is. You can't keep someone under contract and not pay them.

Just starting "The Last Dance" and I can say something that is not something new. Not bringing this team back is the dumbest decision in sports history and people that defended it then or now are akin to flat earthers or Russo defenders.

I think the argument about the WWE wasn't them doing it at all, it was the live vs taped aspect. Going live every week in front of no crowd is just really dumb (unless there is some out for Fox/USA if there isn't a certain number of live shows, and the only thing fueling that rumor is speculation and a cryptic Meltzer tweet).

2020 can fuck right off.

It's not exactly the same, but I always remember when I was growing up, there was some obsession with wanting to see masked wrestlers get their mask ripped off. The face would start untying or pulling it and the crowd (and me) and even old school VKM would get amped about it. But thinking back on it, it's funny. Like, Masked Superstar is wrestling Andre and let's say he gets the mask pulled off to a pop. There would be me sitting there seeing Bill Eadie's face, but I would have had no idea who the hell Bill Eadie is.

I think the current example would be the Ryback. He chose not to work.

There's no way they would let him go. Now, I could see them for punishment doing something like pushing him near the top and then pulling the rug out at the last minute for years on end. Wait, what?

I know this isn't the collapsing of WWE, regardless of all of the recent setbacks. BUT: They are taking a large risk here for the sake of live vs taped shows. It's likely that someone else on the crew will contract the virus. It's not likely, but not impossible that someone could die. If that were to happen, things could get really, really ugly. And would be really tragic to boot. I can't imagine even Vince thinking this risk is worth it. This is insane.

They left out "and it is our belief that five weeks of taped shows would rip the very essence of humanity to the point of no return".

If they taped 5 weeks of shows, thus leaving 4 weeks wherein Vince didn't have anyone to bully or storylines to change on an hourly basis, he would probably die.