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Pro wrestling learning the lariats > punches lesson all over again.

I remember hearing about this match at the time. HCW sounded so intriguing when I'd hear about the odd all-star match and picture Hawaii as this East meets West meeting of continents battle rock. Their title history looks like it was handled worse than the IWGP.

I remember being introduced to peak-era WWF wondering why people were so into Rock and Austin stomp-punching each other.

From what I hear Dead Space 1 and 2 are like Alien and Aliens (both great, the second one more action based) but there the analogy falls apart because the third was rubbish and the spin-off (Extraction) was amazing. Hilariously I attempted to play the first one while in the middle of being treated for anxiety. I stopped when I realised how frequently the game liked to go BOO.

...still friends?

You do understand that I've been trying to explain to you Nintendo's DLC policy (which has been stated outright, upheld 100% to date and appears to exclude holding back members of the Smash character roster for DLC unless it was a free update) and not embarking on some bizarre tirade at somebody on a message board for suggesting that Nintendo would dare act against my personal preferences, right? I thought you were going to come back and explain how you thought extra characters in Smash could fit into that policy because I was interpreting it wrong, or maybe that Mario Kart 8 was a sign that financial woes had persuaded them to abandon it (both possible), but apparently all DLC is the same anyway because it's all extra so giving examples of what types of DLC a publisher would find more acceptable than others and why is a sign of someone hating all DLC / games / capitalism.

For fighting games, the characters are the game. People begrudgingly buy fighting game revisions because they come with extra characters. This entire thread has been hopes, reveals and speculation about the roster and little else. The roster decides whether people buy the game, what abilities the player has and what the player has to do to get good. You said it yourself - Wolf plays completely different, so if you don't have Wolf you are missing out, but Link in Mario Kart doesn't change shit. He's a costume. He's horse armour. And 'It's extra. And completely optional.' could be said of every piece of DLC ever released.

Mario Kart DLC was brought up in the Smash thread, which reminded me of this DVDVR-suited gif (which oddly enough glosses over what seems to be its biggest selling point of featuring 16 new tracks for a 32 track game)

I never said Nintendo doesn't do DLC. I said it would be a first for Nintendo using DLC in that way. They've always been very vocal about doing DLC right and 'pay just $x to get the rest of the game!' wouldn't fall into that. PIkmin 3's challenge maps, Fire Emblem's extra stories, Mercedez-Benz karts etc are all trivial extras. They've been doing new pokemon DLC since '96, but because they're integral to the game they're still leaving money on the table by giving them away for free. I didn't think they'd add new characters and courses to Mario Kart for this reason, but the packages revealed so far have novelty and (I know this is the wrong term for a game like Mario Kart) non-canon theming to frame them as distinct from and arguably even clashing with the original retail content. Extra characters for Smash could happen but 1) it's a lot harder to argue that an incomplete fighting game roster is fully satisfactory as a standalone product, 2) not only are Sakurai games famously stufffed-to-the-brim with content but in Smash finding and unlocking that content is a key part of the game and 3) they've already spurned an easy chance to milk money out of the game by making Amiibos completely non-essential.

That would be a first for Nintendo using DLC in that way if true. Will believe it when I see it.

Another Miyamoto quote relevant to the initial question: "If you're familiar with things like Popeye and some of the old comic characters, you would oftentimes see this cast of characters that takes on different roles depending on the comic or cartoon. They might be businessman in one [cartoon] or a pirate in another. Depending on the story that was being told, they would change roles. So, to a certain degree, I look at our characters in a similar way and feel that they can take on different roles in different games. It's more like they're one big family, or maybe a troupe of actors." Never mind Mario not having a medical license, who the fuck let Tom Cruise fly that fighter jet?

How the hell do you know he's not a doctor? Maybe he went to night school, pal. Miyamoto said so. I know this isn't the case because the following is a quote from the guy on the subject and the final sentence is one of my favourites: "There's really only one rule in terms of the things that Mario does. Generally, it's that he's more on the blue-collar side. He's hard-working, and certainly much more physical in nature. So, I think that a doctor is sort of an unexpected and perhaps unbelievable role for Mario. Perhaps the Dr. Mario you're thinking of was maybe, in some way, not necessarily legitimate."

Now I remember why I quoted the golden age bit - another part of the Kamiya console warrior twitter thing was this. Not only were there a ton more exclusives back in the day, there were a ton more systems to divide them between and the best part was that you had to sit and pray that any of them even reached your country in the first place. So you could pay obscene prices for them. If they weren't arcade games, that is. Every now and again you'd get a home downport like Street Fighter II and you'd love the hell out of it because Digital Foundry wasn't around yet to count how many pixels were on screen and tell you it sucked.

Great post, though I'm fairly sure the rage is reserved for the particular type of exclusive Microsoft introduced a decade ago where a company will pay to delay or effectively destroy games rather than create them. It flaring up now is still a viable point to mock however. The 80% comment reminded me of the other reason I was amused by this. Despite the console running away with gen eight, the PS4 is not getting 80% of the games released. I'm trying to picture the hordes of people who own a Playstation 4, are fine with going without Vita exclusives, Japanese-focused developers, Microsoft's exclusives, Nintendo's studios, Nintendo's affiliated studios, just about the 3DS's entire library, the masses of PC-only indie games, community-based PC gaming and all of the blossoming iOS gaming explosion... then lose their shit because they can't play Tomb Raider.

I love it when 'hardcore' gamers get furious about being 'denied' games because they refuse to buy more than one games machine every six years (Kamiya has advice for thee), or act as if it is unacceptable that they buy a games console 'just' to play the games that are on it, as if there were any other sane reason in the world to do so. Also this shit's been going on for years. Try not to think about how many of your game purchases were used to fund whatever ransom Rockstar demanded from Sony/Microsoft for the privilege of hosting GTA5 first.

Time to wheel this jpeg out of the retirement home one more time

That's a complaint I'd direct towards New Japan in general because of a personal preference towards uncommon finishes to keep people (fans and fighters) on their toes rather than wait-for-the-finisher pro wrestling. Usually I'd use WWE's dominance and NJPW's upturn as proof that the market has spoken and I should silence my out-of-touch dissent, but for me crazy results and alternate match styles that couldn't normally happen are the whole point of booking a tournament like this. Main event, or upper card match in a tour ender with Meltzer-influenced iPPV dollars to be had then I get it you've got to ep it up a bit, but not here. Was going to say something about how the giant format means there's no room for palate-cleanser tags when I realised that while the heavies are killing themselves the rest of the roster are sat in the back enjoying their two months off. Awkward. Sucks for Goto to un-win his feud.

Would it have been unfair in 2000 when Deus Ex came out to judge it by the then-fourteen years old Super Mario Bros's standards? Because that one doesn't work in its favour either.

The twenty-six day break until the next show suggests the wrestlers might be too.

In a time when New Japan have built themselves up their biggest collection of viable homegrown stars in absolutely yonks it's a shame it is now an annual tradition that when they all get thrown together and put on the best tournament in pro wrestling half the internet fumes that they have to give the win to the part timer who screwed the company over twice.

There is no good reason for this. Except maybe a gen 9 re-rerelease.

Warning: Yano/Anderson spoilers.

Thanks. Now I know I wasn't imagining that thread, and also that this is the second time in a row I've published the same libel about my own go-to SNES link.

Best thing about this G1 is the schedule. We have days off to catch up and digest after each round. Wrestlers have days off to not slowly die as the tournament goes on. Hopefully the extended format means more people go into the final hyped from having seen it unfold up to that point than are burned out from it. I was going to mention that I'd heard good things about AJ and I'm interested in seeing his fresh match ups free of the usual main event obligations. Speculation / Fantasy booking in spoilers.

Could've sworn we had this thread not so long ago because I remember posting this link - Super Play magazines' top 100 SNES games. There were a couple of odd missing titles (Donkey Kong Country 2 was one of them, forget the other) but otherwise a fantastic list. Personally, I've played sixteen games that I've awarded a 10/10 to in my head, and Super Bomberman, Super Mario World, Super Mario World 2: Yoshi's Island, Super Metroid and The Legend of Zelda: Link to the Past make up five of them.