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There's probably an alternate universe where Doc and Straw didn't get into drugs where Doc, Straw, and Davey Johnson all make the HOF
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despite our urges to find bullpen moves to blame this game on.. Phillies/DBacks is tied late
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Davey and Lou have interesting cases with some similar traits/events Davey: won the World Series in his 3rd year managing, and then managed good teams but never made it again (Went to the playoffs again with the Mets, went with the Reds and Orioles, went with the Nationals). He managed to draw ownership groups that wanted to bounce him as quickly as possible post-NYM Lou: won the World Series in his 4th year managing, and then managed good teams and never made it again (Went to the Playoffs with the Mariners and Cubs). Lou made the postseason 6 times post-WS. Coincidentally they both managed in New York at the same time so i'm sure writers compared the two over and over during that time. I'm sure that the voters will be reminded to not try combining Lou's non-HOF quality playing career with his managerial career to try getting him over the threshold. I suspect that the voters know that they have at least 3 managers on the way to the Hall very soon (Francona, Dusty, and Bochy) so inducting guys with weaker cases than those 3 probably isn't on the agenda. I think Gene Mauch is the unofficial threshold for HOF managers, so if you're a manager with a stronger case than Gene Mauch, you can get in, but if you don't have that, you stay out. Lou Piniella has 67 fewer managerial wins than Mauch and 324 fewer losses. Jim Leyland has 133 fewer wins and 309 fewer losses. Davey is way low on the total wins list (Bob Melvin and Joe Maddon have more wins than Davey) but he's top 20 for number of games over .500. Every retired manager with more games over .500 than Davey is in the HOF (Dusty Baker and Dave Roberts are ahead of Davey for wins over .500)
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wasn't Jericho's theme an Evenflow knockoff or did he have a theme that I don't remember because I wasn't watching wrestling before late 1997?
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October 2023 Wrestling Discussion
Cobra Commander replied to Dolfan in NYC's topic in The PROFESSIONAL WRESTLING
Tank being at BATB 95 makes me think of what if some insane person booked a Tank Abbott/Vader match -
October 2023 Wrestling Discussion
Cobra Commander replied to Dolfan in NYC's topic in The PROFESSIONAL WRESTLING
not sure if it was a missed opportunity or for the best that Tank Abbott and Bruiser Bedlam never crossed paths because they'd either end up quick friends and/or get into a fight with each other -
October 2023 Wrestling Discussion
Cobra Commander replied to Dolfan in NYC's topic in The PROFESSIONAL WRESTLING
Pretty sure Tank Abbott would have invented the Canadian Destroyer if he was asked to do a sunset flip Of all the 1990s UFC guys, Shamrock has to be the guy who was the best balance of having a pro wrestling personality and being a normal person. Someone like Tank had a pro wrestlers personality but didn’t really need/want to work like a pro wrestler -
Joe Joe West, your Hall of Fame induction is calling
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The thing about entrusting your knockoff music to Jimmy Hart is that he was a musician in the early 60s and probably can play every rock hit from his youth from memory because he had to perform “Come Go With Me” at a party in 1959 In other words, he’s really good at knocking off music for the purposes of wrestling. This is a long shot but BBC needs to talk to Jimmy Hart to find out his Desert Island Discs
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One of the best WCW things was their insistence on bringing out a lucha six man even if they were in Cedar Rapids or some place where the only people have seen Lucha found it accidentally channel surfing I know that they actually have to have visa stuff in order these days instead of sneaking guys into the country or working on tourist visas, but we need more random lucha car wrecks
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Since I missed an hour of Dynamite and the Rangers lost and there really isn't Sam Houston Coliseum house show wrestling that I wanna watch on the Peacock and Tony Khan had to drive across Louisiana to reach the card tonight.. let's go through the shows on the Peacock and watch... Mid-South Wrestling (5/21/1983) Let's see how picking an episode off of the description works out Bill Watts with a nice shirt and tie looking like a high school teacher this week The Teen Club voted JYD over Michael Spinks to headline their meeting. So there. Let's take a look at highlights of Von Erichs vs Freebirds from the Superdome. Speaking of overdubbed music, i'm guessing that version of "Badstreet" was a dub. It's David and Kerry vs Buddy and Gordy because Bill was the one to bring Buddy into the Freebirds. Kerry Von Erich defied jetlag to fly from Japan to New Orleans for this event (he wrestled in St. Louis in-between his Japanese tour and the Superdome) There was a Kerry/Chic Donovan/Gypsy Joe vs Onita/Tenryu/Baba match from that tour that is almost certainly lost to time unless somebody got a camera into the City Gymnasium in Matsue, Shimane, Japan. Let's take a look at when Tim Horner took on King Kong Bundy at the Superdome. The New York Wrestling Magazines and Florida publications loved the Superdome show. Our first match: The Black Ninja Kendo Nagasaki vs Tim Horner. Kendo is managed by Skandor Akbar. Kendo is very charming in how very balding he is at this time. It looks like he has the hair for an evil clown gimmick. Kendo really enjoying unleashing that spinning taunt. Akbar gets to sit down in a chair at ringside so he did that in multiple promotions. Tim Horner wins with an unintentionally delayed inside cradle. Our second match: Johnny Rich vs Tony Torres. Both of these guys are babyfaces and Tony Torres doesn't have a Cagematch profile. Bill Watts talks about Micah and Erik coming on down for the Superdome card and visiting schools. This match is just filling time and they're commentating it accordingly. Boyd declares Pro Wrestling to be the World's Most Exciting Professional Sport. Johnny Rich wins with a one-legged inside cradle. Our third match: Super Destroyer and Tony Zane vs Junk Yard Dog and Hacksaw Butch Reed. Hey it's babyface Butch Reed teaming with JYD. The overdub for "Another One Bites The Dust" tries it's best. Butch Reed, one of 3 major pro wrestlers who I know attended the same college as me (the other two being Chuck Palumbo and Bryan Clarke). Of course Bill knows one of Butch Reed's old football coaches from his time in an Oklahoma university. Tony Zane tags in and immediately gets armdragged onto his head. Nice dropkick by Reed. Nice form on Super D tripping JYD from the apron. Reed tried to help JYD and hit him accidentally hit him. JYD wins by slamming Zane as Reed hits the shoulder on Super D. I'm sure this team will stick together for a long time. Our fourth match: Ted DiBiase vs Ron Ellis. Bill Watts reads the card for next week as DiBiase beats up on this guy. DiBiase wins with the powerslam. Nice move by Watts to essentially say "Hey DiBiase was on our TV as a rookie and got beat up on" to help explain Ron Ellis getting to get squashed on TV here. Our fifth match: Butcher Vachon vs Hacksaw Jim Duggan. Butcher Vachon is being managed by Skandor AKbar. Nice of them to lure a Quebecer like Vachon to Louisiana for some matches. Duggan's spear bumps the ref. Duggan promptly punches out Akbar and DiBiase runs in. DiBiase accidentally hits Vachon with the chair and Duggan gets the win. If you believe CageMatch, this was literally the only time that Vachon ever worked in Louisiana. If some douchebags with chinstrap beards really tried, they could grow a Butcher Vachon beard. Our sixth match: Mr. Olympia vs Jerry Caldwell. Akbar is managing Mr. Olympia too. I'm surprised he didn't find a way to manage Super D and Tony Zane too. This match is getting a countdown noting how little TV time is left. So, would matches on Rampage be de facto standby matches for Dynamite if Dynamite needed matches on short notice? Olympia beats Caldwell with the sleeper just before time runs out. Skandor Akbar managing every heel is at least a little easier than the Mid-Atlantic period of Humperdink managing every heel because they don't air the promos during these Mid-South episodes
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October 2023 Wrestling Discussion
Cobra Commander replied to Dolfan in NYC's topic in The PROFESSIONAL WRESTLING
yeah I forgot the parts of that match that didn't involve a threatened stabbing -
Rangers lost, and the 2014 Royals streak is safe
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would it surprise you if WCW managed to not own some of the music that they used, aside from the stuff that was Turner Network stock music that the WWE didn't inherit either
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October 2023 Wrestling Discussion
Cobra Commander replied to Dolfan in NYC's topic in The PROFESSIONAL WRESTLING
"We can't afford a title belt, but this jacket has a design of a championship belt on it" I just thought of the Mid-South TV title medallion. -
October 2023 Wrestling Discussion
Cobra Commander replied to Dolfan in NYC's topic in The PROFESSIONAL WRESTLING
Figured out a potentially dumb stip match that probably wouldn't get anybody hurt after seeing a photo from last night's NXT with Corbin/Dijak/Melo all in leather jackets A leather jacket on a pole match where you win by incapacitating your opponent so much that you can put on the leather jacket. Gotta make sure the jacket is potentially too small that you have to slowly put the jacket on. -
Things I Remember From The Second Hour of Tonight's Dynamite I missed the first hour due to a mix of the cable being out due to a partial power outage, and also there was a period of time when they cut all the power to make sure the connections were good. So whatever happened before Fletcher/Omega, I didn't see almost all of it. I think the women's match was during a period of time when the power came on and they took it back down. Anyways, Omega beats Fletcher. Chucky's in the front row I'm not sure if I've seen Danhausen do any very evil things while in AEW Lance Archer is back for some reason Sting is retiring at Revolution 2024 Nick Wayne's mom sets him up to get ambushed by Darby Gee we're starting this Battle Royal pretty late for a show without an overrun There's some real "oh yeah, he's still around" guys in this match We have two grey tabby kittens around here who are sisters and they spent most of the main event chasing each other around the room here. One of them has already gotten into wrestling with a larger male cat who is only 6 years older than her MJF gets his belt back and then doesn't. Caster watches and then gets KOed. Juice wins the Battle Royal. What a surprise. Let's hear it for the Juice. MJF vs Juice next week for the ring. We end the show at 5 after the hour, just like the old days of TBS.
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NXT had 798k viewers this week. So they retained about 87%ish of last weeks viewers (dropping from 921 to 798)