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Not quite sure why calling out someone who lives to bash Bryan fans for being Bryan fans would cause you to vote for Brock, but your vote, your business. Personally, I am fine with either of these guys moving on. They both entertain me immensely.

They're probably fine in Tennessee. It's not a state that might recognize their buying of a house and living together as proof of a common-law marriage. However, it depends on each individual state's laws: re common-law marriages and community property, and even if they are just cohabitating, there of course can still be legal proceedings when deciding what to do with a property after the end of a relationship. Still, TMZ is wrong to insinuate that buying a house without being married is significantly more risky for either party than if they did it while married. Basically, if you buy a house with someone else and it doesn't work out, if you can't agree on how to deal with the property after the relationship dissolves, you'll have issues no matter the context.

I totally understand that criticism. Personally, it worked for me since Sami struggling with his conscience was a key part of the story of that character/match and because on a scale of Lance Storm to Shawn Michaels, the ham factor of the acting was only about a "Triple H when he's seething mad," which is fine for me when it comes to pro wrestling. I also forgot to mention that the end with Owens coming back out and starting that feud was also perfectly done. Yeah, there aren't many "perfect" matches, and honestly, I can't think of another single match that I'd rate that way in the past decade that I've seen, but that hit the right spot for me.

I know this will get rolled eyes from the growing number of "NXT is overrated" folks, but Zayn/Neville where Zayn won the belt is the last "perfect match" I have seen. Zayn had a chance to cheat and win the gold, and he resisted it. He got knocked down again and again and had every reason to take the shortcut, especially since Neville had done the same thing, especially since his career was on the line, but he didn't, and he won. He overcame temptation and listened to the better angels of his, and our, nature, and he came out victorious. In a world where the good guy almost never wins and where entertainment often focuses on antiheroes rather than pure heroes, it was really nice to see a guy who was a good guy win by maintaining purity of heart and deed and doing things the right way.

Re: Blake and Murphy, whichever one does that running vertical suplex out of the deadlift is just fantastic. They really need a manager to do their talking for them, though.

On Episode 157 of RAW, 4/29/96, Steve Austin busts out a giant swing. I now get why he's a fan of Cesaro. This show had Mankind and Austin in matches back-to-back. We're just missing The Rock at this point.

I liked Rusev/Cena, but honestly, Rusev/Big E are still my favorite Rusev matches. I know it's not fair to compare them in some ways since the latter two were more like sprints than main-event-style matches, but I would have to say that Rusev was best in those matches. I think Cena is hurt by having that bad series with Bray Wyatt (well, some people liked the last match in that series, but I did not) and then having an unmemorable summer/fall except for getting killed by Brock Lesnar. That MITB match was okay, Cena/Orton was good except that it had two guys people are fatigued on seeing wrestle each other, and the 5-on-5 was really a showcase for Ziggler and Rollins (and even Harper) more than Cena. I can't even think of any really good TV matches from Cena this year like he usually has (consider Cena/Cesaro, Cena/Swagger, Cena giving Mizdow his best match ever by a very wide margin, etc.). One good thing for Cena is that whenever fancam of him pops up this year, he's working at a really awesome clip. I think that's a big advantage to his case for going far in this tournament, maybe the biggest.

Yeah, but it sort of came off as "HHH is so bad that he lost to a dude that can't wrestle," or if you're a so-inclined smark, "HHH had to lay down for a guy who can't even wrestle! This company sucks and so does Cena BOOO CENA FOR HOLDING DOWN GOOD WRESTLERS!"

And yet you liked the post where Raziel mentioned how poor little you are so beat up on, just like he is. Trust me, I just skip your posts now when you talk about wrestling, so believe me that it isn't about you unless you make it so, like for example posting a "PLEASE STOP MENTIONING ME POST" that simultaneously garners you the attention that you crave so much and DAMN IT, you got me again. Good job, Gregg. See what Gregg just did, Raziel? Now THAT'S how you troll. Anyway, back to talking about Bryan and Brock. I think I've tested the boundaries of March Madness enough for one thread.

Oh, you two get off your crosses. Anyway, at least take some note from Gregg. He trolls much more subtly and then acts more wounded when someone calls him out on it. You have the subtlety of a coked-up Hulk Hogan playing Richard III. Anyway, back to the actual question of wrestling itself, I think the idea that fans are bad for REALLY wanting their guy to win is weird. I appreciate that someone can actually engender that type of support, especially among cynical "smark" type adults. I don't like Punk at all as one example, but I did always think that it was a huge point in his favor that he could curry favor with a very cynical group of people, generally-speaking (I think the Punk fans here are not like that, but going to a live show, there was definitely that sense every time you'd see lots of Punk fans). That Bryan is doing this by being a convincing variety of the Millennial ideal male archetype is really impressive because he's tapped into something cultural by getting over to some degree. Anyway, I think the fan-bashing stuff is lame as fuck. Gotta give credit to the wrestler that those fans are engaged and invested enough to want their guy to win every time out, just like when they were kids.

Nah, your opinions are MUCH shittier than those. Your post where you thought you were being clever about the difference between professional wrestling and sports entertainment just kicked off what has turned out to be a number of terrible opinions. It's your right to have them, though I do suspect that you are just doing a third-rate FSW tribute gimmick.

Its not trolling if its my actual opinion's and I'm not trying to get anyone banned, upset, or in trouble.Dissenting opinion is NOT trolling. That's why its awful. Daniel Bryan is a fucking awesome wrestler that does have a few flaws, but isn't a irreplacable God amonsty men. Daniel Bryan zelots are the fucking worst because they want him on top with a 15000-0 record holding the Belt for 17 years and scream burial with every loss (I am guilty of this myself in the past) and refuse to let anything else happen to the detrement of the company. I'm not against the wrestler, I'm against the fans. When people read the archives next year, someone's gonna go "Only wrestler on the planet to pop a Wrestlemania Crowd? Really?" I'm sorry. I must have just thought that you were trolling with all the hyperbolic statements, reductio ad absurdum, strawman arguments, and other clearly terrible points that you are making. I have not yet heard a Bryan fan who thinks that he should win fifteen thousand straight matches, nor is it crazy to say that Bryan helped the crowd get back into things after that Taker or that he was uniquely in a position to do so with that crowd. I hope you are trolling though because if not, your opinions are shit and your arguments to back them are objectively terrible.

Do you mind sharing which case that is?

Raziel's FSW tribute posts are just shitty. Come on dude, at least read last year's archives and take some cues from the original if you want to make slick troll posts against a board favorite. Just awful work on your part so far.

Shit, you even revised the people in the match itself. Proof of your point right there.

I chose Bryan. I'm genuinely invested in his success. That is what pro wrestling is about, right?

Yeah man, fuck this, Cena's better than Tanahashi. The people arguing in support of Cena are right.

YOU TAKE THAT BACK YOU TAKE THAT BACK RIGHT NOW OUTRAGE

Man, fuck. Shit. Fuck. Shiiiiiiiit. I'm leaning Lesnar, but I need to meditate on this. Like, go out on a mountain peak and meditate. EDIT: Actually, reading this thread, people are making strong cases for Bryan. Since that's kinda who I want to vote for in my heart because I didn't care about anyone more than Bryan all year in wrestling, keep those strong cases coming!

I'm gonna be real: Seth Rollins is mediocre as fuck. Great offense for a face, but he's supposed to be a scheming heel. Shitty when he's on top in heel control segments. His mic work, I give him a bit of a pass on because he's warbling the hack prose of monkeys on typewriters each week, but he is not any good at that "talky heel with a larger-than-normal vocab for a pro wrestler" thing they make him do. Third best thing in the triple threat, which was his best match last year. His second best match was the 5v5, where I'll admit that at times, he worked like a scheming, methodical wrestler trying to help take out the other team one by one. But no, I do not look forward to Rollins on my screen at this point. Tyson Kidd re-invented himself, "Fact" and "God bless" are two of the best little catchphrases in the company, he works like a mean, vicious little shit when in control as a heel, his strikes are good, he looks like a great wrestler who is also a great athlete instead of an athlete who happens to be wrestling if that makes any sense. I would put any of his major NXT matches up there with Rollins's work, and his character work in many matches (such as Kidd/Gabriel vs. Zayn/Rose) was really engaging and fantastic as well. Kidd is better, flat out, than Rollins. I honestly think that if they built him seriously to have Rollins's exact spot, right now, he'd be a thousand times better in that spot.

Bálor is the most charismatic guy that I think will be a star that I can't actually stand. Stupid entrance, especially all painted up, that makes me really hate him; video game offense that doesn't seem to have any actual thought of making things look like a fight behind it; whatever on selling or wrestling from underneath. Man, fuck this guy. Never really liked him as Devitt, not a fan of him now. Ryback is oversold on this board generally, but at least he can cut a good meathead promo and look like an actual pro wrestler in the ring.

Tanahashi would fit right in within WWE with all the finisher spamming and bad strikes. Seriously, Cena had a year where outside of anything involving Brock Lesnar, he wasn't really that great. The Wyatt matches were abominations. The Orton match was whatever, but at this point, Cena/Orton and Tanahashi/Okada are both matchups that I just can't get excited about. The most recent Tanahashi/Okada match was likewise fine, but man, don't care at this point for whatever reason. I don't know, I need to think about this. I genuinely like both of these guys, but neither had a year that really wowed me. I'll look at arguments in this thread.

Okay, I can honestly say I didn't like Ja Rule, then. No Limit and Bad Boy, on the other hand...

What is the hip-hop equivalent of Creed in the '90s? Puff Daddy and the Family? I'm trying to give this argument some personal context.

I like Busick's style of work better than Cavernario's.