Gordi the former AEW fan
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For some reason 3/16 feels like a date that has pro wrestling connections.
Will Dynamite be Stunning this week? Will it leave us all Stone Cold?
Oh! Right! St Paddy's Day.
Far as I know, only 4 matches have been announced so far:
T'under Rosa vs DMD IN A STEEL CAGE for the AEW Women's Championship.
I imagine there will be blood. Britt Baker has a competition in her. She wants no-one else to succeed. She hates most people. There are times when she looks at people and sees nothing to like. But who will drink whose milkshake? Either way it should be one gotdamn helluva show.
Bay Bay and reDRagon vs Confident Champion Cowboy, Jungle Lad, and The Educated Dinosaurus
(it's not a six-man match. It's a one-dinosaur, four-man, and a bay bay match)
I am anticipating a whole lot of the goodness, here. I wonder what's next with the Young Bucks and The Dark Order vis-a-vis the ongoing Adam on Adam violence saga.
Wardlow vs 1 Gold Scorpio for the TNT Title:
Will MJF cost Wardlow the match? Will there be some unforseen twist? Will Ethan or ATT get involved? Might it just be a straight-up speed vs power match? I'm gonna be at the clinic getting my Pfizer booster shot. I am going to have to do my best to avoid spoilers.
Bryan Danielson & Jon Moxley vs Wheeler Yuta and Chuck Taylor.
I am still in that stage of being all giddy that Dragon and Mox are going to be teaming up, with William F. Regal in their corner. It's almost too much.
Will Orangehausen be there, too? How will that work?
Anyway, with four matches announced and two days to go, there's loads of time for us to ask for "Hook and Lee vs Hobbs and Starks, please!" type of awesome extra toppings...
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11 minutes ago, JLowe said:
If unreasonably happy means I can’t say guys like Steamboat and Sting from when I was a kid, then I’ll pick Koko B. Ware. I was a huge mark for him.
Monday Night Wars era: Juventud Guerrera and Blitzkrieg
Same era lucha: Super Porky
Modern day: Dante Martin and The Acclaimed.
Super Porky is a really good choice! If I'm gonna focus on "makes you happy" rather than "unreasonably" my top 5 would probably be:
Super Porky/Brazo de Plata
Ebessan/Kikutaro
Giant Baba
Kana (Asuka, but not when she's in the WWE, unless she is winning the Rumble)
Eddie Kingston
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8 hours ago, Octopus said:
What wrestler makes you unreasonably happy? Just seeing them in a match and you can help but smile. Whether how the act or their personality or even nostalgia, just the idea of them brings you joy.
Love this question, too.
In the spirit of overthinking everything, I wanna focus on "unreasonably"
There are a whole lot of wrestlers where I think it's reasonable if they make you maximally happy: Liger, Eddie, Kobashi, Bryan, Savage, Terry Funk, Andre, and on and on.
Then there's a special sub-category of pro wrestlers who, if it were not for the Death Valley Driver Video Review, you might think you were alone in loving their work (and at least in my case, might never otherwise have discovered): Johnny Saint, Negro Casas, Volk Han, Shinobu Kandori, and so on.
in my case, there are also wrestlers with whom I have a personal connection (like John Tenta, Asian Cooger, Daisuke Harada -basically anyone who was in the Vancouver territory in the 1980s or the Vancouver indies from 2005 through 2009 or Osaka Pro from 2009 through 2012 - and so on) and I mark out unreasonably any time I see any of them.
And the famous wrestlers I have met who were unusually kind to me: Abdullah, Hokuto, Chono, Akiyama, Bryan, Bob Sapp, Onita, and so on...
So that narrows my list down considerably, if I eliminate all of them. But my list is still at least as long as the good reverend's
So, a top 5 of pro wrestlers where I think I mark out more for them than most of you do:
El Felino
Manabu Nakanishi
Bear Country
Kantaro Hoshino
Les Kellett
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35 minutes ago, Matt D said:
Do people really need me to talk shit about Bruiser Brody again?
My honest argument would be that hating a wrestler's work, as you do with Brody's selfishness, as I do with Helmsley's or Inoki's self-conscious self-aggrandizement, can be pretty enjoyable. Particularly when there are people who strongly agree or disagree with your take and there are discussions to be enjoyed as well.
So my take on the question is that it isn't "who have you seen a lot of, that you hate?" so much as " Who have you seen a lot of, that doesn't create much of a response one way or another? "
Overthinking it further: It's probably possible to hate a wrestler (or their work) and not enjoy talking about it at all. That might be worse than just being bored.
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I have already deleted the Strong Spirits game from my tablet. Just so so so so repetitive. You do the same basic things again and again and again and again and again and again and again and again and again...
Sort of fun for the first couple of days but, I wouldn't bother.
Although, maybe you'll like it, @Blue Dragon since you seem to genuinely enjoy posting skeevy Joshi pics again and again and again and again and again and again and again and again...
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On 3/12/2022 at 3:19 AM, supremebve said:
Since you brought up Wallstreet, I have a question for the board. Who is the wrestler you've watched the most, but enjoyed the least? My two choices are Mike Rotonda or Billy Gunn. I'm pretty sure the best match I've seen either of them in was the dumpster match at Wrestlemania XIV. That's a good match, but Billy Gunn's contribution has pretty much zero to do with the quality of that match.
It's an interesting question and there have been a lot of interesting answers.
For me? Last couple of years it's definitely been EVIL. I watch a fair bit of New Japan because I have some real-life friends who really enjoy their style and it gives us a fun thing to talk about. Plus, I love Ishii, MiSu, Cobb, Hiromu, Shingo...
But it also means sitting through endless EVIL matches with more-than-predictable interference finishes... plus a stinking title reign! I didn't mind the guy when he was teaming with SANADA on the mid-card, but I loath him as the lead heel. That run has really hurt New Japan, in my opinion.
All-time, it's either Boris Zhukov or Randy Orton.
Zhukov because we used to get AWA on TSN in Canada and he seemed to be on a lot, while entertaining everyone very very little. Soldat Ustinov was worse, but he wasn't on TV as often. then Zhukov moved to WWE and formed The Bolsheviks. Volkoff and The Iron Sheik were a wildly entertaining tag team. Not so Volkoff and Zhukov. I suppose the quick loss to the Hart Foundation at VI was the most I have ever been entertained by a Zhukov match.
I know Orton has his fans here, but he has never really done it for me. I find him consistently, reliably boring. Which I think is the worst thing a wrestler can be. At least with HHH I was able to work up a kind of hatred for him during his reign of terror. Orton never got me to care that much. Even in recent years, where I only very occasionally watch a big "premium event" like RumbleMania, Orton always seems to be in some interminable, overblown, bullshit match with bugs being projected on the mat or something.
I was there live in the building for Backlash 2004 when Orton had a hardcore match vs Cactus for the IC title, so I have kind of enjoyed at least one Orton match (even though -spoiler- Cactus losing a hardcore match definitely bummed me out) but there is no famous, well-regarded, highly-pushed wrestler who has ever bored me more. Not even EVIL.
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I was not expecting Darby vs Quen to be based around long-term body part selling, nor to finish with a Fujiwara arm bar!
Bullet Club:NJPW::DMD Club:AEW
For a moment there, I was afraid Keith Lee wasn't going to yeet anybody.
Powerhouse's spinebuster was almost as impressive as Limitless' Biel.
Tony Nese doesn't just have abs. He also has pecs and at least one bicep! That was a pretty f'n enjoyable pro wrestling match right there.
This past week has given us a rich bounty of pro wrestling, overall. A big... thing, of riches.
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So much really very good wrestling this past week!
Four more matches scheduled for Rampage:
Swerve makes his AEW debut vs "He Has Abs" - Honestly, I haven't seen much of either guy. I have liked what I have seen in the ring so far from Nese, but I have a wrestling-nerd buddy who dislikes him based on how he was presented on "the other channel" which was apparently, literally, that he has abs. I also have abs. You just can't quite clearly see them.
Swerve had a match against Buddy Wayne's kid (who is also All Elite, after Orangey Boy showed up and gave him a contract...) and that match was really fast-paced and exciting. I expect something similar here.
Darby (w/ Sting) vs Marq Quen (with Isiah Kassidy) - I hope I spelled Kassidy's name correctly. *winks at Dean*
Speaking of really fast-paced and exciting... Also: Maybe we'll get some continuation of the Andrade/Matt/Jeff etc. storyline here? Was this Rampage taped on the same show as the live Dynamite? I could probably look that up, but I want to avoid spoilers.
Keith Lee vs Cutie Marshall - I have just enjoyed the hell out of Keith Lee in AEW so far. When he was on "the other channel" I used to get a huge kick whenever someone posted a gif of him doing cool and awesome things. I also enjoy his whole presentation. I can relate to a guy who is big and strong but speaks softly and thoughtfully.
I wouldn't mind a Keith Lee and Hook vs The Factory mini-feud. Lot of interesting ways those two could toss Marshall and his students around the ring!!
Hayter vs Mercedes. This will probably be the hardest-hitting match on the show. It might be a better match, in terms of in-ring stuff, than the PPV match we got between DMD and Rosa. Wouldn't shock me to see those two involved at some point here (maybe post-match), helping with the build to their gonna-be-awesome Steel Cage Match.
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55 minutes ago, hobo joe said:
Maybe I had tears in my eyes when Punk came out to Miseria Cantare. Maybe I'm a big pussy.
You and me both. I get a lump in my throat damn near every week over something on one of AEW's shows. Got choked up twice today watching Dynamite, no fooling.
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Here's something you don't see every day: Austin Idol and Tommy Rich vs TMII and Kabuki.
More of an interesting historical curiosity than anything else, in my opinion.
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Hats off to @PetrolCB. "2 Gold Scorpio" is better than "Transitional Sky" which is what I was going to go with.
Did not see that title change coming! Guess the Universe put its own twist on what @JLowe was manifesting!
Not big on "Jericho Appreciation Society" as a unit name. Very much looking forward to Jericho, ripped Hager, Garcia, Terrance, and Phillip (why not "Inner Circle 2.0?") vs Kingston, Santana, Ortiz, maybe Sammy? etc. (Outer Circle?) Wargames and Guts match.
Finish sequence to Page vs Dante was some very swank pro wrestling.
Regal choking up a little. Danielson choking up a little... Gordlow choking up a little.
i really hope "Uncle Tony" brings in Finlay for a one-off. Bryan, Mox, Regal vs Finlay and, say, Bear Country? I'm sending it out into the Universe. Come on, Law of Attraction!!
What's next for Arn and Tully?
Darby's expression! He's all "Papa Nero! I knew you'd come!" That was sweet. Not too sweet, though. Just sweet enough.
Tony " has abs" Nese as his first opponent? What is this? Some kind of swerve?
LOVED the Jurassic Device!!
Legit Leyla and JD Drake on Dynamite. *contented sigh*
Edit: Damn near forgot aboot PAC vs Wheeler!
Kingston also got me a little choked up.
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I know some of y'all are old enough to remember when virtually every pretty hippy girl (and all the Oprah-watchers) got really into reading "The Secret."
You know, 'the Law of Attraction ' and how putting a desire out into the Universe was enough to bring it into your life? Remember that? About half the young women I dated at University (so, like, two) genuinely believed that nonsense. It was equal parts flattering and red-flaggish when they'd explain to me how they'd willed the date into existence.
Why am I bringing that up now? Hangman vs Dante! Bryan and Mox vs A Tag Team That Includes JD Drake!!! If JD Drake is wearing trunks, maybe it's time for me to admit The Law of Attraction is actually real.
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As far as I'm aware, only two matches (and rwo segments) have been announced:
Sammy vs Scorpio Title vs Streak match
Legit Leyla vs Thunder Rosa Winner Subsequently Beats DMD For the Belt in a Cage match
Chris Jericho "addresses" Eddie Kingston
The very pretty blonde MMA lady signs her AEW contract, presumably including Dan Lambert somehow upsetting all of the pro wrestling grandpas by speaking on their behalf (which is a thing that I still find consistently entertaining).
Lots of room for us to ask for some other nice treat of a match to fill out the show!
Although, really, I am kinda full already. Hot damn that was one great PPV. Plus: Have you seen Ishii vs Shngo from night 2 of the New Japan Cup yet? This really has been a great week for fans of harrowingly stiff professional wrestling (like me. i am a fan of that).
Also: Am I the only one who sets themself up with "snacks" for Dynamite? I can't possibly be! I picked up 2 microwavable soups from 7-11 on my way home from work. Miso with pork and veg, and Korean style ginseng chicken soup. Japanese convenience stores are incredible! I also have some nice brown-spotted bananas and a couple of smoked chicken breasts. And a discount sports drink called Jungle Man.
i guess we'll get some fallout from the PPV and maybe the start of some new programs building to the next big card. I wonder if Swerve will wrestle.
What do all y'all wanna see?
EDIT: Reportedly, we'll be getting something new from Matt Hardy as well. Some are speculating about, maybe, Jeff showing up.
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2 hours ago, NoFistsJustFlips said:
You Tube demonitized all wrestling (except the national promotions) with the loose reasoning of, because they said so. They never really gave a full on explanation. It was just a decree handed down and the indies that did make solid money from You Tube lost all that income. I know John Thorne who runs AIW was very public in how hard they were hurt by the lack of income from it. AIW, Beyond, and a couple others made like 4 digits off of it monthly and that helped subsidize the expensive rosters they used.
Just gonna have to assume their reasoning is along the lines of, wrestling is niche and can of worms not worth opening.My understanding (which may not be correct, and is mainly based on conversations with friends who were affected by it) is that YouTube demonetized several wrestling channels BECAUSE certain intergender matches (like, say, John Silver vs Jordynne Grace) were getting a hundred million plus views. Furthermore, they were getting so many views because they serve as a kind of ersatz fetish porn in certain highly-populated areas of the world where access to actual internet porn is tightly controlled by the government.
A quick internet search confirms that a ton of smaller wrestling channels (and several gaming, music, and animation channels of various sizes) were sweepingly demonetized in 2017. The impetus for that was several important YouTube advertisers being very unhappy indeed that their ads were showing up on channels devoted to hate speech, which led to sweeping changes in YouTubes ad revenue policies.
The conspiracy theory is that YouTube used that crisis as an opportunity to de-fund smaller sites that were making too much money, by marking the channels for "objectionable" or "re-used" content.
Also, as far back as the summer of 2017, some smaller wrestling sites were reportedly able to get their monetization restored by YouTube.
Pretty interesting rabbit hole you sent me down, there!
Almost 26.5 million views!
Over 115 million views!!
Perhaps worth pointing out, perhaps not: A further conspiracy theory is that certain less than fully scrupulous promoters maaaay have killed the golden goose by using view bots to crank numbers even higher once they realised that certain videos were getting absurd numbers of hits. I am 100 percent certainly not trying to implicate Beyond Wrestling or any other promotion, specifically. It's just something else I have heard related to this bizarre corner of pro wrestling discourse.
And, since we are debating the merits of intergender pro wrestling:
Kana booked a series of harrowingly violent intergender matches in her own promotion. I'll post a link instead of a video because this is definitely not for the squeamish. Nobody holds back in this one, at all, and it might actually make some people HATE Fujiwara.
KANA and Suzuki vs Syuri and Fujiwara:
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I managed to avoid spoilers. Glad I was able to. Not too often that five hours fly by like that. Enjoyed the hell out of that show! AEW keeps knocking it out of the park. They exceed my very high expectations.
Jericho and Kingston going full 90s All Japan was probably my MOTN, which is really saying something considering Mox vs Dragon and MJF vs Punk both exceeded what I was hoping for.
Regal slapping some sense into Moxley and Danielson was my mark-out moment of the night. Also really saying something considering that Sting spot, Punk's entrance, Punk and Mox's crimson masks...
So much variety on this show. So many different kinds of great and/or exciting pro wrestling.
A nice birthday treat for our boy Paul!
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For all of the joy you spread.
For the happy memories you have created for all of us.
For the good times.
Yes, for the frustrations also.
Happy 50th anniversary, New Japan Pro Wrestling!!
Spoileralso: Happy Birthday Paul.
Please imagine a picture of American Dragon, Kobashi, and Batman buying Funko Pops here.
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He was also Strong Machine #2 (Riki Bassan). I think he's Korean.
That's all I have got.
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Presumably thanks to "Uncle Tony" there are now a bunch of ROH TV shows up on the FITE app. Free, with commercials (for Car Shield).
Just had time to watch the first half of the American Dragon HOF episode. They show a complete match, vs KENTA! Dang, that was a hard-hitting, fast, and exciting bout!
Who knows? We might get to see them face off again in the G1, or in AEW, some day. It would be interesting to see how they wrestle each other today, compared to back then.
It looks like they also show a full Nigel match in the second half of the show. I'm interested if other people have found this on FITE. I'd like to hear recommendations for what to watch next.
What a great time to be a wrestling fan!
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I loved the contrast between the all-action 3-way and the big man power struggle between Lee and Drake.
It's not just Shida returning (which, obviously,
) but HOW she returned. Just furiously attacking. So cool. So apt.
I am bummed have to work Monday - I love my job, but that's when the PPV airs here. I will need to avoid spoilers. It's gonna be a good one! Enjoy!!
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TNT Title Match: Sammy vs Darby vs Andrade.
Oh me. Oh my. This should be very good indeed.
Expect some AHFO shenanigans and Sting getting involved to set up the PPV match.
Face of the Revolution ladder match qualifier: (Ch) Cage vs (E) Page! On Rampage! (Sadly, not in a cage) (or on a bronze age theatrical stage). It might rage backstage!
I want Christian to win and then win the ladder match. Gran'pa power! Oldish guy revolution!
Another 5-minute Deeb challenge! I flat out love these.
Keith Lee Yeets Some Guy!!! Is it wrong that I am looking forward to this one most of all? I doubt I am alone there.
Seems churlish to ask for more...
Though, maybe, Hook eating a chip or Kingston on the mic or something? Might be space to toss something like that in.
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3 hours ago, NoFistsJustFlips said:
Along those lines I genuinely wonder if the August PPV will be called All In or All Out this year. Obviously All Out was a riff off of the original getting as close as they could legally. But for all intents and purposes All In should be the brand name for it. It was the spark that started AEW. But TK has also shown to be pretty sentimental and prideful, would he want to scrap the All Out name? Jericho was crowned the first AEW World Champion at All Out, not All In. Will be interesting to see, at least to me.
All In-N-Out.
Double Double match. 3X3 and 4X4 matches. Animal Style match.
Maybe cross-promote with Cracker Barrel.
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I got a little choked up when Dragon and Daniels started their match off with a handshake.
That might have been the most coherent and entertaining battle royal(e) that AEW has done. Great return for Darius!
The Punk/MJF thing was note perfect. Couldn't have been done better. Punk really tapped a gusher there, as well.
Was the Punk vs Raven feud in ROH? I honestly don't remember. If so: This feud might be a good way to get people to sign up for Tony's ROH streaming service, since it definitely harkens back...
They did a good job using the tag matches to set up the title matches for the PPV.
And maybe to set up Wardlow for a heroic turn at some point during the dog collar match!
Anyone not excited for Revolution at this point?
Edit: and... we got Bryan fighting, Bryan and Mox jaw-jacking, Bear Country, 2.0, Ass Boys etc in the Casino match, Legit Leyla being angry, Wardlow squashing Bononi (!) Dang... We sure as hell got more from Punk and MJF!
I'm gonna keep asking for Big Paul vs Strong Mark, and a Hook gauntlet match...
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1 hour ago, Curt McGirt said:
Watch the AEW international library be all the IWE tapes and a deal with Sasuke to air M-Pro. (That would be awesome btw)
I'm hoping it's that Mexican death match promotion that does shows in a junk yard ((Zona 23?)
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I think this is genuinely everything that's been announced for tonight:
Casino Tag Battle Royale.
Thunder & Mercedes vs Hayter & DMD? I think?
Hangm'n Hungee & Reynolds vs Bay Bay and reDRagon
A MASSIVE announcement from Uncle Tony.
Seems like this might be a really good show to actually test the "they'll give us what we ask for" theory!
So, whaddaya wanna see?
Bryan?
Kingston!
Bryan & Kingston & Mox all bowed up and jaw-jacking?
Bear Country vs 2.0?
Miro returning?
Legit Leyla takes the Deeb challenge?
More from MJF and CM Punk?
Wingmen vs Ass Boys?
Hook in a gauntlet match vs all of QT's students?
Mark Henry vs The Big Paul?
Is the announcement gonna be about the PPV? The Owen? The West Coast tour? A streaming service? Including ROH and NJPW and GCW and PWG?
Is Just Flips gonna haveta eat his own finger?
speaking of which: What snacks are you going to have during the show? I've got bananas, yogurt... steamed chicken and chinese pickles with sesame oil... frozen microwavable gyoza, just in case... I am all ready for tomorrow morning.
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March 2022 Wrestling GIFS and Pics
in The PROFESSIONAL WRESTLING
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When I read WWE threads here or try to follow what's going on by reading websites: The name-changes, booking, angles, and storylines generally seem to range from bafflingly stupid to full on rage-inducing.
When I watch clips on YouTube or Twitter or wherever: The actual wrestling (per se) is always really good. The zooming, swooping, always-cutting camera is always awful. These wrestlers are obviously among the very best in the world at what they do. Why not just let us watch them do it?
But:
When I try to actually watch a full WWE show what really kills me is the endless corporate-speak.
You can't say wrestler, you have to say superstar. You can't say belt or strap, you have to say championship. You have to use everyone's full name every time you mention anybody. "Local medical facility" "Championship Opportunity" "here at WWE (full name of PPV)"
Oh, sorry, you can't say PPV any more, can you?
"We thank Gordlow for his contribution to the WWE Universe, and wish him well in his future endeavours"
And then on some websites you can even read absolute nonsense like " Two superstars were sent to a local medical facility following their championship showdown at (sponsors) present (full name of premium event) at (full name of arena). "
Don't know whether to laugh or weep.