BloodyChamp

We Seminoles had as many returning starters this game as we did for last game. So there’s that .

Dang RIP brothers. The kings.

Jack Russell and Great White were killer. They might have even been better than Guns N Roses. That was just the tightest, hittingest music that I never got tired of. It was everything good about 80s rock and heavy metal crammed into 5 and 7 minute songs, which might be the only reason they didn’t get as huge as Guns N Roses. They never quite had a short song that rocked as hard as Welcome to the Jungle or Paranoid. If you liked hard and heavy music that was still fun if you weren’t in the mood for serious Black Sabbath or Metallica stuff though, Great White was it. Rock Me was my Warpigs. It didn’t come on the radio every day, but when it did I knew it was a treat and I turned it up and if anybody was near me they would say yeah now there’s a goodun. Then when it was over it was sad because you knew it would be days before you heard it again. The song never totally went away either. It was always being played somewhere on the radio even if it was at 1 AM in 1995.

Peterman wow. I’ll tell you what though, it’s more in line with the times than it is that unheard of because we’ve seen some come on man stuff the last several years when it comes to quarterbacks.

Every now and then you need to just spill some buckets of blood in the ring, and when it’s 2 guys like W*NG K and Kevin it’s legit. Ftw. The problem I had with that angle was Kevin bumping the wrong way off the rope. That was an alltime eff up that would have went protoviral had it happened anywhere else. But I got over it. Kevin Sullivan was awesome and SMW was awesome. W*NG K is awesome too and I really need to explain why one day. It’s something that maybe hasn’t occurred to everybody but I think everybody would agree.

Kevin vs Norman the Lunatic was the first brawl all over the building match that I ever saw and it was everything to me that the Tupelo Concession Stand Brawl was for everybody else I swear to gosh. Just a freakin wild match that made you jump and scream and even laugh at the end. Norman was over huge at the time, and I don’t mean his weight. It doesn’t seem like it but between the Brian Pillman thing and the Chris Benoit thing, you could say that Kevin had a sharp eye for what was going to get people’s attention in the 90s. I know the 2 things blew up in everybody’s face but that’s another can of worms. I wish we could have seen it go like he had planned and without the typical WCW thing that was them having an amazing idea, followed by putting the idea through a million filters.

This was wild. This was one of the 987 WCW things they tried to do with Sullivan that had potential.

I don’t want to sound like I won’t drop it but another way to look at it is Kevin Sullivan in WCW was like Ric Flair in WCW. He had to work and was going to put up with whatever shit he had to, and gosh knows they both did. And while they were both good in WCW, it’s an injustice to have WCW be how they’re remembered the most. Kevin Sullivan was the top heel in a hot territory for a long time, and it was no coincidence that that territory’s talent headlined the NWA before it even headlined WCW. With that said I still have a soft spot for silly evil WCW Kevin.

He was a GOAT wrestling mind. The shit he put out since Florida wasn’t a product of his mind as it was just him wanting to keep an easy job in WCW. The 1 thing that did come exclusively from his mind in 1996…I don’t know if I’d call it the GOAT but it was definitely a different heavy take on something that had been poked at in wrestling but never really ran with.

I just heard. RIP Kevin. Him as a heel in FL belongs on any GOAT heel ballot. That was wild stuff. It was typical rasslin territory heat and intensity with a secret ingredient - Kevin Sullivan. The Army of Darkness was like The Freebirds. They were so great originally that they were always great, no matter how watered down they were later. And gosh knows that happened.

If Aiyuk wants money he’ll get it I imagine. If he wants targets and to win…he might better rethink shit.

So football aaaayyyyy I’ll tell you one thing I like about football right now, is that the superstars are all carrying their weight like superstars. You can talk about who won the SB before the SB before the last SB but you’re not talking about a superstar who is rocking it like a superstar on the field. You can talk about money but to me that’s a whole separate thing. Allen, Purdy, and Mahomes are the guys and the results speak for themselves, complete with the whole weird vortex of nonsense that led to the Chiefs winning after the 2 other teams blew it. It was like only those 3 teams ever had a chance once it was clutch time and them playing each other almost caused some kind of phenomenon lol!

Or X-Files inconsistencies, or King of the Hill inconsistencies. How about all the people that didn’t ever know that Dough For the Do-Do was a remake of Porky in Wackyland. Jeeze television might not have even survived.

Come on guys sticks and stones… There was a post on the internet every week of somebody asking OMG WHAT WAS THAT THEME MUSIC!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! until Shane Douglas and Dean Malenko left. I was searching for something else recently and found an old Reddit post where somebody asked, and everybody remembered the song, but only the last guy who answered knew it was Deep Purple. That’s 1 of the coolest songs that I can’t believe didn’t catch on, especially since it has always popped back up here and there. Those 2 albums are underrated IMO, especially if you just plain love them like I do. Most people do love them, but they love them guilty pleasure style.

Old man Bret Hart promos are something we were robbed of. They could have been gold and they could have been enough to get him through a big postprime the size of The Iron Sheik’s. Kermit the Frog is another dark horse GOAT straight man. Hank Hill also. They were both funny but never funny on purpose and they rarely knew they were being funny. Shane Douglas had nuclear heat at the time. People wanted to see what he was going to do and say next, more importantly say because the limits he pushed on the mic were serious then even if they’ve since been blown away. The quality of his matches almost didn’t matter because people just wanted to see what was going to happen next. It was pretty wild watching all that fresh however mild it seems now. I don’t know where that leaves his legacy because I don’t have the full story on a bunch of other things he was in the middle of but that was him in ECW and what made him such a big deal IMO.

I wouldn’t count Andy as a straight man because he did lots of funny things on the show, but he usually wasn’t the one doing the over the top funny stuff and he had straight mad qualities yes. And Lance Russell is a dark horse pick for GOAT straight man.

That was 1 of the dumber things about show at that time not just his. But he was the GOAT straight man. Only Porky Pig might have been better.

It’s been discussed many times that Bischoff was an idiot for thinking that. Bobby Heenan’s hatred for Hogan was the equivalent of Ric Flair wanting beautiful women. It was always his gimmick, all the time, even when he wasn’t working a gimmick if that makes any sense. Being silly negative in general was something he was always going to do also and that was just another example. Everybody knew he would say it. If he wouldn’t have said it it would have been worse. It would have been another example of the announcers trying to hard to steer things 1 way like when they kept going HAW MAN TED DIBIASE MUST BE THE NEXT HORSEMEN THAT’S WHY HE MADE 4 FINGERS HAAAAAAEWWWW!!!!!!!!!!!! Bob Newhart was a funny comedian and storyteller but his TV shows were lame - O. If you haven’t seen the series finale of Newhart though, I recommend it. It’s 1 of the best series finales ever. It made the lameness of the show make sense. It was done as if his whole career built towards that payoff.

And that job was given to her by here friend Trump, and running for the senate isn’t having a job in the senate.

Bobby Heenan putting Jim Cornette over like that really shows how great Jim Cornette was as a manager. He was number 2 if Bobby Heenan was number 1, and Jim says Bobby was number 1 as do many other people. Bobby didn’t have to do that I would imagine but he did and he did it perfectly. I guess Yoko lost some steam but that was going to happen anyway. Jim was Jim til the end of all the things and people who changed in the 90s.

I’m more disappointed in Trump for picking them because I had greater than 0% faith, hope and respect for him, vs 0% for Hogan. I don’t know much about Linda believe it or not but IIRC she’s never had a job in politics that wasn’t given to her by her friend wtf.

I just saw an Instagram reel that was doctored up to look like somebody walking into the building to the old Raw is War bumper looped guitar riff. Somebody entering a building saying nothing and doing nothing but walking, to the sound of that music, is 1 of the bad assest things in the world let alone in wrestling. I hate to say it because I was a WCW man but it’s true. It’s up there with a football team walking through a tunnel CLICK CLACK, or the Chicago Bulls theme.

John McKay would have been a GOAT wrestling personality and Bobby Bowden is on the ballot with John Madden and George Foreman for GOAT loveable goofs who are really geniuses and alltime great commercial pitch men. He could have been number 2 alltime behind Madden had he not chose to stay local.

Those AI generated posts on FB about wrestling lately are so freaking bad.

That ^ which nobody else missed when I first said it, or needed explained to them to start with by the looks of things. Scott Norton isn’t a random Goldberg match. It’s a Scott Norton match. It’s a match vs somebody who didn’t suck which Wrath, Riggs, etc never got. If you really were plucking up random Goldberg matches from 1998 you would find 10 jobber matches before you found 1 people cared about, and half of those wouldn’t even be glorified jobbers. They’d be half Mark Starr, Bobby Blazes and the other half Hugh Morrus and Jerry Flynns. EDIT: I since read the rest of the thread and saw where you misunderstood 1 thing. I also saw where people expanded on his “feuds” with Henning, The Giant, etc. He had a minifeud with Hennig similar to his feud with Hugh Morrus but by 1998 he was wrestling those guys and a couple others every month or so after every 4 or 5 matches he had vs straight jobber guys. It’s like they knew what they were doing and figured a match like that every few weeks would be good enough. I could be wrong on the matches vs The Giant but I swear every one of those were Nitro before ppv matches or O crap RAW has a better main event so we’ll do this as a surprise matches. Just no heat or no anything besides the visual of seeing him jackhammer The Giant, but heck plenty of guys had already suplexed him. EDIT AGAIN: 2 Giant matches? That can’t be right but maybe it is. I do remember them having a no DQ match out of nowhere on a Nitro main event, just to try and make people care since they’d already had the match atleast once. Hooking no DQ onto matches for no reason was an effective way of getting another match out of a feud still as far as 1998, but it was so obvious how desperate they were to try and make something out of that match in particular that should have been a ppv if you wanted anybody to care about it.