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  1. I agree that the execution of the plan was what was bad about that Royal Rumble, not the plan. Bob Backlun stopping and easing himself over the top rope didn’t look any better and didn’t help.
  2. Garvin/Valentine had a 1986 JCP feel to it, and I’m not just imagining that because it had Tony Schiavone on commentary. When Garvin hit him with the death blow the crowd even let out a JCP “OoOoOoOoO” noise like they used to do. How about The Rock n Roll Express vs The British Bulldogs? That gets unfairly lumped in with washed up vs washed up matches but that’s not what it was. I agree that the match could have been better but not because anybody was that washed. The Rock n Roll Express were playing off the crowd like they always do. For whatever reason, that crowd was just flat. So they just mat wrestled for 30 minutes instead which was still pretty good. Ricky Morton’s not clean shaved looked like a ran over pile of dog shit I will admit that.
  3. Ronnie has 10 years or so on most of the old guys we talk about. For a guy to be as good enough as he was through the years is impressive. When I learned how old he was I didn’t judge him. He was probably a good worker at 1 time and in any event he was always over even if the championship didn’t work out. Also Rick Martell was never what I’d call bad. He just wasn’t pushed storylinewise and stuff. Then when he came back in 1998 the storyline push he got was basically “this is that guy that was in the WWF forever with no storylIne” lol! He was still pretty good then really and it was cool seeing him show up looking like this regular guy with short hair and a smile lol! He seemed to enjoy in when he came back. It’s to bad he got hurt.
  4. Maybe he should drink the beer first like the happy interview wrestlers do.
  5. Valentine’s definitely somebody you think of when you hear the word “wrestler” for many little reasons but his shoots destroyed any hope of becoming a fan for me. He’s as negative as Honky and Superstar combined, but it’s with the intensity of some of his matches.
  6. I haven’t seen the WM match but I’m not shocked about that hot take considering what I know about this sport that I’ve followed for forever. I’ve heard the story about what made the match great/taboo a million times. It’s on my list of darkhorses to check out. I haven’t seen the Ric Flair brawl with the drop kick either but IIRC I saw a 10 minute or so highlight reel of it on YouTube. That looked like one of Flair’s best matches even. I’ve seen the Dog Collar match but I need to rewatch it. I seen it as a bloodthirsty 90s fan and was underwhelmed.
  7. RIP to the GOAT. I liked what he had to say in 2017 also.
  8. I thought it was Michael Hayes. It could have been that he had the first music that a wrestler performed himself, or first video clip, or something else besides just theme music though. Or I could just be wrong period which has been known to happen.
  9. I might be imagining this but I think I remember reading that Vince produced this DVD hands on himself, George Lucas style, because Billy was his favorite wrestler. It was 1 of the few things that Vince made happen simply because he just wanted to, that didn’t involve flexing, gloating, etc.
  10. Theme music??? That’s a Hulk Hogan tier lie. Now here as I think about it, maybe it’s not though because for some reason the person who I remember inventing theme music in wrestling seems like to easy of a guess but I’m pretty sure he’s who I read did it more than once.
  11. I don’t remember that but I don’t doubt it. For a while there his column was some kind of trip. It’s actually amazing that he’s managed to live it down. I’m proud of him for doing so though. He doesn’t deserve to be judged for what flew out of his mouth after...you know.
  12. I don’t think Hogan was wheezing while walking yet in 1993 like he was in 1997 when he claimed another wrestler wasn’t in good enough shape to go over him, but he was no youngun either. I’m taking Bret in whatever kind of real fight it is from boxing to wrestling in 1993. I’m taking a few people who weren’t what we call shooters. Hogan was pussyass bitch. Who has to be a shooter to deal with him?
  13. Flair says he stole the turnbuckle flip things he does from Ray, but that he didn’t even do it as good because of his back. And a few other people have talked about him doing some flip. I did find a match today that was pretty good I thought. Him vs a young Curt Hennig.
  14. Does anybody have a link off the top of their head to Ray Stevens doing his turnbuckle flip thing? I’ve never seen it or a match of his and his name has came up twice in my reading today, and both times it reminded of what Flair said about him many times.
  15. I found this and it was a cool sign of the times. I was thinking about football a little more today than I had for a while after the local news had a special about my Seminoles here. So I laughed at Luger’s football comparison lol he was so right, on the football part anyway. https://youtu.be/u1TPd-rP0DY
  16. I’ll tell you what I loved the heck out of as a youngun - Pillman and Z-Man. They were such a breath of fresh air to see on weekly TV doing all those cool moves against jobbers. Yes we already had heartthrob tag teams but they were all established so they weren’t on TV much, and when they were it was just to get cheated out of winning the main event. They were over to, big time. Another 1 of those cool things to say to sound smart is that they were not. I do know of the problems they eventually had but not being over wasn’t 1 of them. Also just so I don’t sound like a total mark I’ll add that while Zenk shouldn’t be judged for leaving the WWF, Rick Martel shouldn’t be tuned out for the negative things he’s since said about it. Even with good reason, I’d be pretty mad if my partner left me hanging just before we were about to be the top good guy team in the biggest promotion.
  17. I wouldn’t say Z-Man lacked charisma or babyface charm. He was over big time for a long time, and he could dang sure work for a guy his size. He was so good that you didn’t notice how big he was. The WWF machine just wasn’t for him so he hit the road, but alot of good wrestlers did that. Then he rubbed Ole wrong, which alot of good wrestlers did to.
  18. Zenk was 1 of the first old rasslers to discover the internet and read what he saw on it with a tad to much intensity, and get a tad mad about it. Therefore he got an unfair reputation of being a turd. Here we are now in year number 100 it seems like that people find it charming when wrestlers act like him on the internet.
  19. This is the first I’ve heard of this. RIP Dean.
  20. Sting was a heel in the UWF like mentioned, and he was a heel in 1999 in WCW. He was also a really freaking mad, out of touch, desperate for attention babyface in TNA IIRC. But not like cool mad where the crowd cheers. It was similar to Eddie’s heel turn in WCW, or Ric Flair more than once. The end result was siding with the heels or something but Idk. I don’t usually count the shortlived misses in the discussions but Sting had 3 so he counts IMO.
  21. Good ole boy club. They probably have another name for it among diva footballs players.
  22. https://www.wwe.com/videos/scott-steiner-unleashes-the-dogs-on-sting-great-american-bash-1999
  23. I’m pleasantly surprised to see some actual Jets discussion concerning Aaron Rodgers. ESPSN, FB, the meme world, etc have already skipped this season and are ready for 2024 and the Vikings. Rodgers is washed and overrated either way. With that said, I expect more than most people do IMO. I’ll go as far as to say that the Jets will overachieve, and that Rodgers himself will have a peak where he looks unstoppable. At the same time though, you’ll be able to smell the blood coming from somewhere. I can’t even imagine how he’ll top blowing it this time. As for the 49ers, I read something that makes so much sense lol! It said the 49ers don’t care whose better. They just want the guy who can drive the team. I think that’s Purdy. I don’t know why and I don’t know how but that team was ready to die for him. They played hard for everybody through the quarterback problems, but they were on another level with him. I don’t know if the guys have another year’s worth of playing like that in them but that’s another post. Switching quarterbacks again isn’t the answer either way.
  24. Jobber matches where the jobber had a gimmick made the match more legit. That was 1 thing Watts always did that still wasn’t outdated IMO. It hardly made it 5 stars or anything, but there was just something better about wrestling a guy called The Libyan than there was about wrestling a guy called Ed Brock. 1989 was the funnest year of WCW IMO and had Sting not gotten hurt, well, I don’t know if history is altered all that much but WCW never straight bottoms out like it had by 1991. It was still kind of just put-putting along like it was the NWA. Jim Herd didn’t go crazy until about 1991 with his crap. Yes I know the Ding Dongs happened in 1989 but they only lasted 3 months and weren’t on TV again until the end when they got squashed, unmasked, and even sorta mocked late 90s insider style IIRC. Had Jim Herd not been the biggest jerk that ever lived, and just been a typical booker who didn’t know what was going on, I’d go as far as to say that might have saved his reputation lol! Of course he probably didn’t come up with the idea for that send off either.
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