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  1. It didn't make Ric look real bright when you consider Hennig turning on DDP right out of the gate, but there was the whole Arn "spot" promo that Nash so famously overshadowed with his parody, both of which clearly established Hennig as a babyface, however briefly it may have been.
  2. I think the cruiser segregation ultimately worked in his favor. He was a big fish in a small pond, but the top cruisers who "moved up" around that time never got much to show for it. Thinking of Malenko as US champ being an afterthought in the Jarrett/Mongo feud (and getting beat by both) and Rey getting a (midcard only) giant killer gimmick that ended with him losing his mask and the blowoff match with Nash anyway. Jericho dodged a serious bullet with Goldberg not wanting to do business with him. Never working (and losing) to the likes of Nash, Goldberg, Steiner, etc gave him an aura of "can't wait to see him work with real top guys" that made his WWE debut so anticipated.
  3. Andretti had to take the L because otherwise he'd be #1 contender. I do agree they need to take a step back with him, though. The win over Jericho was great, but no way he should've beaten Garcia. Andretti is extremely average (which puts him in like the bottom 10% of the AEW roster) and they need to figure out something sustainable for him long term besides leeching off Starks. Seems like a guy that could really use a developmental ROH right now.
  4. I don't think Jericho really got buried during his WCW heel run. Definitely wasn't elevated to his potential, but he still had a ton of credibility going into WWE. Once he won the belt from Mysterio, he didn't lose for like 5 months, and got pretty much all of his wins clean too. Eventually, he had to give the wins back to the top guys like Dean, Rey, and Juvi, but then he moved on the TV title and got a decent amount of wins there before dropping the belt to Konnan who was super over at the time. He then did a reasonable 50/50 feud with Saturn who went over in the end as the face, but nothing out of the ordinary. Then he pretty much disappeared until his contract was up. WCW could've done him way dirtier. I think 98 Jericho was the first heel I ever cheered for. He was so perfectly obnoxiously funny. He had all the good qualities of heel Shawn without any of the negatives.
  5. Extremely classy tribute to Jay. It was very genuine, but not overdone. I would not be opposed to a Mark/FTR trios run when the time is right.
  6. Shayna had that character working for her on the indies before she got to NXT. I got to see her work on Mania (32) weekend, and you could see she had next big thing potential. She's just a natural when it comes to pro wrestling.
  7. I think a rematch happening just because Hogan lost the title would have sufficed. The Sting/NWO feud had more than enough momentum for multiple ppv matches. In a perfect world, you have a Sting semi-squash at Starrcade, then Hogan comes back much more prepared and they have a longer, more competitive match at Superbrawl. They could even get away with a screwy finish in the rematch to transition to the NWO breakup angle while Sting moved on to other feuds. I know, good luck getting Hogan to job in 2 straight matches at that time, but one of the biggest problems the Starrcade match exemplified was Hogan's outsized influence in creative when he should've been made to pass the torch. On the second point, there has to be some nuance when using the phrase "killed the company." Sting/Hogan was the first obvious crack in the dam, not the final break that sent WCW on its death spiral (that would probably be the finger poke if I had to pick one thing). WCW still had inertia to be viable despite one bad show, and along with the general growth in the wrestling market at the time, it's no surprise they hung on a bit longer. Worth noting, however, they never had a ppv that approached the Starrcade 97 buyrate again, which supports the idea that a good chunk of the fanbase did feel burned by the show itself. Wrestlemania 14 and 15 (both of which delivered supreme triumph for the top face if nothing else) surpassed the Starrcade 97 buys for comparison. Also with the benefit of full historical hindsight, we can safely say that WCW did in fact fold just over 3 years after Starrcade 97. Obviously the same did not happen after Flair left.
  8. I don't buy that at all. The same company ran Hogan/Piper twice in the same time frame the year before, and ran Hogan/Luger twice in one week earlier that year. They could've easily written a "Hogan uses his connections to pull some bullshit and get a quick rematch" angle. Sting vs. Hall should've gone on the lesser Souled Out ppv in between with like Bret vs. Savage while he was still in "dream match" mode (I agree that Bret vs. Flair should've happened at Starrcade). Yeah there's a million other reasons WCW folded, but the finish of Starrcade 97 consolidates a few of the big ones into a singular extremely hate-able moment. Also, the rest of the show sucked too. Didn't even deliver quality undercard action like most WCW ppvs from the time. There was a 15-minute Luger/Bagwell match for god's sake. Just a total choke job when the company had the most people watching that they ever had.
  9. What about a Low/Ki Taker reluctant partnership and eventual feud where Michelle McCool plays 1997 Debra?
  10. Very happy to see Top Flight get a big win this week. They've been featured heavily, but wins on tv are pretty much all that matters for perception. Notice how Ricky Starks is looking a lot more like a superstar instead of a guy who could be a superstar over the last couple of months. Definitely the right move to turn Toni and Saraya now instead of drawing it out. Ruby and Willow got a big boost from the street fight, the crowds have been dying to cheer Britt and Jamie, and the women's division could use a fresh heel act, even if there's "I'm better than you because I was in WWE" undertones. Bryan/Bandido was an excellent technical match, but I wasn't digging it due to the booking. Bryan has completely impenetrable plot armor right now, to the point it's nearly making him a heel against these fighting spirit babyfaces. It's way too much suspension of disbelief that Bryan/MJF won't happen, and I don't see a lot of value in someone like Bandido getting all their finishing moves kicked out of along the way. I think Cage is a much better type of opponent for this angle, where Bryan should still be a strong face out for revenge on MJF. I like the idea of Takeshita as a heater for MJF on the road to Full Gear in a vacuum, but he's another guy who needs a TV win against a lower-ranked guy way more than another competitive (but obvious) loss to a higher-ranked guy. Darby/Kushida was a lot of fun, and I really hope this TNT title run primes Darby to take the belt off MJF later in the year. He's the babyface that represents everything MJF isn't, and from a practical standpoint, AEW really needs to get mileage out of Darby while he's still young.
  11. Tony Khan would be the only good billionaire in history if he used his fortune to produce endless fan-service pro-wrestling shows and hosting every unedited historical show available.
  12. I thought Cody had heat with HHH and Vince was the one who really wanted him. Not that HHH wouldn't be capable of putting that aside to do business, or that Vince has good booking instincts even for people he does like, but Cody's WWE move always seemed like a big gamble for him. Working the HIAC match (while incredibly stupid and dangerous) probably made him too big of a deal to ignore no matter who's in charge.
  13. Even if they couldn't deliver Mercedes, I thought they were gonna properly read the room and have Britt do some FIP with Jamie getting a hot tag, but "grassroots" popularity aside, they still can't bring themselves to do the right match structure with Jamie Hayter. They also badly need to re-think this Shida thing, because absolutely nobody wants to see this angle play out straight. Britt and Jamie are natural faces, Toni and Saraya are natural heels. The sooner that is figured out, the better off everyone will be. Mox/Hangman was a fun lariat fest. Don't know if the concussion angle is necessary, but I'll take more from these two. JungleHook vs. The Firm was the kind of tv match AEW could use a lot more of. I'm glad Adam Cole is looking like he's ready for a babyface run. I know he has the sleazebag look, but his in-ring strengths and his mega-over catchphrases always screamed face to me and it's too bad it's taken so long. Both advertised promo segments really sucked, and after the conversation last week, AEW could really use a proof-reader to cut out sexist and otherwise derogatory promo material. Everything else about the company is so modern, but we're still getting early 2000s WWE babyface insults. "Can't control your wife" and "you have a lisp," god damn. Good thing Starks and Andretti don't have a third partner, or else they'd have been making gay jokes about Menard and Parker. Ladder match had some killer spots, not much in the way of selling. The Elite were a million times better as heels, hopefully HOB will kill them soon. I actually think Omega should be MJF's next major program after Danielson. Let him bag a couple top names that can easily afford the L before you get to him feuding with his contemporaries (one of whom should be the one to beat him).
  14. Like others have said, probably not at all, at least not in the sense that the Saudis will force Islamic fundamentalism into the WWE product. Obviously putting Vince back in charge will likely produce sub-optimal outcomes for both, but same as it ever was really. The real problem is a portion of all money spent on WWE would directly fund all of the human rights atrocities carried out by Saudi Arabia (general women's rights issues, genocide in Yemen, etc). Though one could argue this was already occurring given WWE's political affiliations, this would be cutting out the middle man completely.
  15. Dick wagging, legit billion dollar business, and at least one member of the royal family seems to be a huge fan from the 90s.
  16. Low-level wrestling journalists have no incentive to not run with such a rumor. If they're right, they'll get to coast off breaking that one story for years. If they're wrong, they'll continue to spam social media without consequence. I still think the Saudis are a very real option, but that's based off the previous few years of WWE happily running their propaganda for large amounts of money, not one particular rumor of a movie-like midnight sale.
  17. So FB has been feeding me random MNW era Raw and Nitro matches (like it knows me or something), and I gotta say I really miss the tv sprint style of match. You can easily have a 5-minute match where both guys get a lot of shit in, and the crowd is hot the whole time. You can also fit more people on the show and not have a damn commercial break every match. I watched a random Hall/DDP and Nash/Giant match (had to be one of Wight's last WCW appearances) and both matches were fast-paced in a way you wouldn't think a match with any of those 4 would be, had a concise story that advanced certain characters, and kept the crowd engaged without burning them out. Maybe I'm just that old guy wishing wrestling is like it was when I was a kid, but it would be a welcome change of pace from the "If a match isn't early 2000s ppv quality, it's a squash" style of tv today. Also, why does no one do falling elbow drops and those quick follow up clotheslines in the corner anymore?
  18. I wouldn't be surprised if the ladder match opens, and the women main assuming they run a show-long angle to get Toni out and Mercedes in. With a 2-hour (and probably some change) limit, something will likely run shorter than expected. Mox/Hangman seems like a good candidate as a no-contest crowd brawl.
  19. Jay Lethal has been on a good run in AEW since he turned and I told everyone from the beginning midcard Jarrett is great. His over-the-top heel stooging straight out of 1987 CWA sticks out in a good way on AEW shows and he's a perfect guy for the upper midcard home-growns to beat up. While that match isn't gonna get MOTY votes, it was some perfectly distilled pro wrestling.
  20. Vince selling to the Saudis would be his best swerve since Montreal. It wasn't on anyone's radar until a couple days ago, but in retrospect, it's so obvious. Vince makes out like a bandit and everyone who stuck by him gets rewarded by working 10 Crown Jewels a year with no tv exposure (except the women who all just have their contracts terminated).
  21. I mean Action Andretti went from 99%+ of fans not knowing he existed to being a Dynamite regular, so that's worked out pretty well for him even if he doesn't become the next John Cena. He still got a decent pop coming out to save Starks for a minute too. Also, another point of evidence for why all tag team breakups should not turn into blood feuds. Could you imagine the pop if Hobbs came down and cleaned house on the JAS? Starks and Andretti need some backup and I'd rather not see the BCC go back to feuding with the JAS.
  22. You've got Caster making wife-stealing jokes and Starks was the one who started calling MJF "Maxi Pad" so gender-conscious language might be a company wide problem (or a society-wide problem) rather than just Bryan. And cheap-heat guy or not, "Shut up you fat skank" is pretty extreme in 2023. Sounds like a Scott Steiner line from 20 years ago.
  23. Do the good old "mystery attacker" angle and let everyone think it's Shida for a few weeks, including a violent Shida/Storm blowoff match on Dynamite, only to find out it was actually Saraya. It would make sense if she said she was actually tired of being paired with second-tier wrestlers who couldn't get the job done like Toni and Shida and needed to ditch them for real woman superstar to take over AEW. Depending on how much Mercedes is going to work with AEW, you could either have her win the belt before the reveal or just have Jamie beat her and establish herself as the new ace. Depending on how much fuckery they're going to put into the Bryan/MJF Iron man, Jamie over Mercedes would be a great choice for AEW's first women's ppv main.
  24. I don't think Cody has ever done a Lethal Injection variation of the cutter. I think both he and Ospreay do a regular springboard version.
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