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Well, there's always the possibility that they whiff it and add Starks to the match. Or run something else entirely, nothing is confirmed until we see that sweet graphic with the solemn London sky as the backdrop.

Clearly Super Leatherface comes out and reveals himself to be this Grado fellow, assuming that match is actually happening.

Not trying to take any shots, I do honestly confuse a lot of posters around here and the lack of navigation certainly doesn't help. My point stands, we as fans tend to look back at the best of things while looking ahead at the possibilities. It's easy to look at Wembley and think, "ahh, they have to do their best, which was Punk-MJF" but then also look back and see that the main event of Revolution 2022 was actually a match nobody cared about, Cole vs. Page. It's just silly how in real time we seem to focus more on the negative but history fossilizes the "greatness" when in reality all of it is necessary and wrestling.

You missed the part where no company or booker ever has actually done this perfectly. It just isn't possible. You're looking for a unicorn, and if you go back and watch the entire product around the time of the Punk-MJF feud, it won't be there either. Rose tinted glasses that are easily removed when this imaginary golden goose comes into our heads. In five years we'll be looking back in awe craving for this moment for an 80k show on the horizon. The discourse around this show has become Royal Rumble 2014, which is just insane to me. There is an actual dream trios match on "free" TV tonight. Will ya'll be commenting on that show with as much intensity?

I'm probably mixing these up but Tony's booking advisors for Dynamite have been reported to be Sanjay and QT Marshall and the Collision team being lead by Danielson. Obviously, the Elite, Punk, and Jericho all have a lot of input too. With Jerry, Dean, Mr. Assman, etc. as producers/agents/coaches, I think it's a pretty solid inner circle. There's no one person who could come in and affect the kind of change the voices think they need. Wrestling is a revolving door of angles, matches, talent, feuds, trends, storylines, creators, performers and fans. There have always been too many variables to try to fix it. The beauty of wrestling is that it can never ever be perfected. 80k in Wembley in 4 years with a 2 year pandemic and we will never be happy.

Entertaining show tonight. Not a night to rake in the star ratings but the wrestling was all solid and there were lots of easter eggs. If the only reason to tune in is for an Eddie Kingston promo, some wild match announcements, and a stellar ROH video package, I'd say we're still doing okay. Darby/Cage is definitely something I'd put on my plate. Enjoying the obsessed and depressed starlet role for Toni. A middle of the road Orange defense, but I'm sold on Harley's singing routine and the Yuta feud. 28th defense, but please nobody start counting. Britt's promo was good, and I wonder if Bunny maybe goes over and which forces Britt to challenge Kris. A somewhat more interesting route.

It's easy to look at III in retrospect as a 2-match show, but out of the 12 matches, 7 of them had storylines going on for months heading into the show (with the 6 man tag even combining two of the stories). It's a company firing on all cylinders.

Sorry if the following valid and interesting point is actually from this thread, it's nearly impossible to navigate but who's complaining? I think it was someone on X/Twitter that brought up the fact that opening the show with Cole and MJF is a brilliant way to give the press what they need in terms of photography since the reporters likely won't last until the end of night.

The legacy of the Briscoes in full effect. Hadn't considered this yet.

As a general principle, I'm not a fan of someone wrestling mutiple times in one night unless its a tournament or gauntlet situation. Then again, WM30 and the Georgia Dome Nitro were some of the best nights of wrestling so apparently I allow for exceptions. This might be the only sensible and probable take on this show I've seen so far, including my own reservations. And even regardless of intent when the show was booked, there's reason to book this show as their big annual event since the odds of drawing a crowd this size again are almost nonexistent. The idea was to put on a great show in front of a hot new audience with the biggest crowd possible. There was no way they imagined this, but they all get to have their cake and eat it too. The "smart" wrestling decision is obviously to save the biggest dream matches to help attendance in the states. Not just All Out and Grand Slam, but for every Collision, every Dynamite. Obviously there's no money in doing CM Punk-Kenny Omega at Wembly when all the tickets have been sold. But the seeds are slowly being planted as always in AEW. There is certainly an argument to be made that nothing Tony is booking is happening in a vacuum and the overwhelming negative response to something like Ospreay-Jericho has been quite loud. One of the strongest complaints against Vince is that he rarely gives in to what the audience demands. (Which isn't really accurate but that's a different section of the board.) Would there be something to gain by pivoting to something like Ospreay-Omega at this point? Assuming it could happen politically, I think there's way more to be lost there story-wise. But guess what? If they do have the balls to try Wembly 2024, they have a match they know people want to see.

You'll never convince the Cornette types and honestly it'd be preferred to weed them out entirely. Which is why I'd like to see an all women's wrestling show with legitimate stars given a worthwhile platform, free from the weighted attachment of men's wrestling. Not everything has to be sink or swim, hell even the very idea of AEW was a risk. But now I'm just complaining, WWE has had the network for a decade and put on one all women's show.

It really is a tough pill to swallow since the top potential draw in women's wrestling can't even get a match on SummerSlam. Has Mercedes Mone at all justified her payday from Bushiroad, for instance? All I know is I'm rarely dissapointed these days, whether its Skye Blue or Rhea Ripley, I feel like I'm seeing someting fresh.

Devil's advocate o'er here...is there any great incentive to push the women's division past the fact that its the correct moral thing to do and fwd thinking and all that? These moving goalposts, whether it be "Let them Main Event WrestleMania!" or "Give them more time on Dynamite!" are so far removed from how stuff actually works in wrestling that by now the conversation itself seems like a contractual obligation. You give the audiece what they want. Women's wrestling has come a long way but its not the draw. AEW gives the women the spotlight when it counts. Do the women need their own show?

Generally, his two mostly widely seen classics are WMIII and the Career Match with Warrior at WMVII. The DDP series is really solid, nothing exceptional but its a highlight of his later work which was very formulaic. Savage was in some classic 80's WWF blood feuds, but his best dance partner through the years was Flair. Gems: Randy Savage vs. Ron Garvin - Cage Match Randy Savage vs. Jerry Lawler - Loser Leaves Town Adrian Adonis & Randy Savage vs. Bruno Sammartino & Tito Santana - Cage Match Randy Savage vs. Tito Santana - No DQ Montreal Randy Savage vs. Ricky Steamboat - No DQ Montreal Randy Savage vs. Ric Flair - GAB 1995 Edit: also vs. Hogan in Philly 1985

True, but the faction led by cohort quarterback Brett Farve is known as the New Lost Equity Wranglers, so who's to say?

Wasn't someone given permission to catelog Dave's shed at one point? Did we ever see the fruit of those labors?

Counterpoint: cheap edits like Botchamania and PromoJoe do more harm than good for wrestling and the term "botch" itself is fucking stupid I also wear an eyepatch but this feels like a greater evil.

I also think Bully Ray's pitch to keep everything at All In unannounced Mystery Vortex style has a lot of legs.

It's also hilarious that people will scrutinize the All In card up-and-down but the legacy event we all love and cherish was littered with trash like Crush-Repo Man, Nailz-Virgil, and Taker-Kamala. An Intercontinetal Championship Match between Bret Hart and Davey Boy Smith was absolutely no one's dream match in 1992. But they booked the match and then built a great angle within weeks. It's pretty much universally agreed that the whole "Who's side will Mr. Perfect be on?" angle was a big fluff of nothing, but there is a legitimate classic half hour match between two of the great wrestling characters that has endured for decades. And that's it, its a 2-match card. This has been said, but if you've never been to an AEW show and get to see your first one ever with 70k+ people, you won't care about dream matches and prestige TV, you want Max Caster's rap, you want tha BOOM!, you want to sing along to Judas. The MJF-Cole story has been incredible and I'm quite certain whatever they decide to do with it won't shit the bed.

Not saying this would end the show, but Jamie-Britt would give off strong vibes. Maybe, by chance, Britt somehow gets the belt back beforehand for a similar dynamic.

Biggest thing would be a Big E cash in and win, but they're too chickenshit to do anything that makes Roman vulnerable. Would be a huge moment though.

Found a copy but criminally it cuts out 2 minutes into the match with no finish ?

any excuse to get Owens to carry a cowbell around is acceptable tbh