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    AUGUST WRESTLING DISCUSSION THREAD

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    data-author="Newb82">Newb82, on 22 Aug2013 - 6:05 PM, said:

    www.profightdb.com/pwi/nikita-allanov-2696.html2002: 3972003:3632004: 3812005: 362

     

    Thank you kindly Newb82.

     

     

    data-author="jaedmc">jaedmc, on 22 Aug2013 - 5:49 PM, said:

    Were you ever on the list Nikita?

    Do you know of any wrestlers who got placed in that 300-500 range thatactually got any kind of recognition bump?

    I feel like back in the 90's indy guys actually benefited from a spot on the500. I know for the longest time I only knew of Reckless Youth, Mr. Ooh La La,and Quack from the list, and it made me want to know more about them. Butnowadays, who even reads it? And it feels less beneficial than say someonepassing around youtube matches.

     

    I think the bump is minimal.  Back when there were still multiplecompanies, it was more or less a plot device to spur discussion about how guysfrom different companies matched up with each other. 

     

    During my heyday, there was only really one company, so the "bump" gainedfrom it was kind of minimal.  Like, if you were a guy on the WWE periphery,and were ranked higher than some prelim/midcard WWE guys, then that might giveyou the needed publicity boost to get bookings in something like the Super 8 orwhatnot. It had the same trickle down effect thru the indys.  Maybe a guymaking $5 a match could get more bookings for more money because promoters inother places knew him from PWI500 now. Maybe a guy that got an unexpected highranking could jump from non-descript indys to some of the more well-publicizedplaces. 

     

    For me, it was more about credibility.  I could tell my family/friends Iwas ranked in the world's top 500 wrestlers, and it always seemed to be a bigaccomplishment they were proud of.  It was also always something I couldthrow out there that showed I was on the radar of a major publication, and notjust some goof.  Also, I had a lot of fans ask me to sign their copy, sothat was always kinda cool. 

     

    data-author="Assassin">Assassin, on 22Aug 2013 - 5:56 PM, said:

    I think I remember Nikita being on the list in 2002 (which is the onlyedition I ever read), it was either that, or the big "profiles of everypromotion in the US" magazine they put out at around the same time.  Iremember being a big fan of a belt having to do with brass knuckles

     

     

    Aside from my PWI500 rankings, I had a couple articles about me in TheWrestler, and I had the profile you mentioned in a Wrestle Americaalmanac or yearbook or whatever they called it - it was just a magazine thatprofiled a ton of independent groups.  I was the NWA East Brass KnucklesChampion and they had my picture with the profile for NWA East. 

     

    I was working in the office for the aforementioned NWA group, and I handled alot of the heavy lifting getting things like results/pics into the Apter Mags,and I helped get a lot of guys I worked with ranked.  I had a pretty goodprofessional relationship with Brandi, as she handled most of those areas, andwhen she stopped handling the PWI500, I stopped being ranked. 

     

    It really is all about who you know. 

     

     

     

     

    ... mark ...

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    AUGUST WRESTLING DISCUSSION THREAD

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    Something just occurred to me, re: why I'm not going out of my way to watch the big leagues anymore:

     

    Reading the Sin Cara Army idea ... I WANT to see that on-screen.  I WANT that to happen.  I would absolutely love it if the Hobo Army happened, I would have loved it if Abyss went on a tear beating WWE legends and stealing their rings to become Parallax, I would love it if an ECW reunion were booked like "Blackest Night" ... and my god, how many awesome ways can the Stud Stable and Col. Parker and Bunkhouse Buck come back.

     

    But it doesn't happen.  Shit that would probably result in higher ratings ... never happens.  Chikara, for different reasons than some may think, quite possibly could - for better or worse - be/have been the next evolution in pro wrestling.  But fuck if it's on TV, or will make it on TV anytime soon.

     

    Insert sigh here.

    AUGUST WRESTLING DISCUSSION THREAD

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    Recently fell in love with ADR. His SummerSlam match with Christian just stood out to me.

     

    I think he is such a smart and safe choice for World Champion. There is just something really old school about how he carries himself in the ring, I think. He's consistently very good, but I still don't think his character has hit a stride yet.

     

    Your posts are often spot-on, but when I imagine that they're being spoken by that puppy (high-pitched growly Disneyesque voice and all, each comma replaced with a "ruff!"), even better ... godDAMN, what a cute puppy!

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    Raw 8-19-13

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    "The American Dragon" Bo Dallas.

     

    Not even kidding, if you went with "The American Dragon" Bo Danielson, you'd hear of mail bombs and anthrax envelopes showing up in WWE offices within the week.

    Raw 8-19-13

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    I don't get how they'd lump the PTP into the DBryan story. His coming out is a nice story and all but I really don't want Darren Young shoved down my throat.

    I'm such a child...

     

     

    Don't worry, there's plenty of room in the day care over here.

    AUGUST WRESTLING DISCUSSION THREAD

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    Anyone know if there are plans for a new Andre retrospect for WWE in the works?  I seem to recall a mention of one earlier in the year (or the near end of last year).  I think a combo of AWA, Japan, and early WWF stuff would be spectacular, just to get over what a spectacle dude was.  Much of my memories of Andre start around the WM-WMIII area.

    Raw 8-19-13

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    Is there anything wrong with the idea of firing the current Sin Cara and putting Hunico back under the mask and pretending it is the same guy?

     

    Yes, but only because firing someone who's injured is wrong, and Sin Cara's always injured.

     

    HHH needs to go to all of his doctor's appointments and as soon as he is cleared to wrestle wish him well on his future endeavors.

     

     

    And sit perpendicular to him, staring at the side of his face, in the doctor's office, while the doc explains what works best for a stubbed toe, which, in Mistico's case, resulted inexplicably in a torn Achille's tendon.

    AUGUST WRESTLING DISCUSSION THREAD

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    Out of pure curiosity, is Kingston the first time you ever heard the expression "The last of a dying breed?"

    Are you gonna make fun of me too? It is, but I've heard it a bunch since he started using it as his gimmick. It actually didn't make sense until now ... But at what cost? AT WHAT COST, "EL DRAGON?" My SELF-ESTEEM?Nah, fuckin' around. Yeah, it was.

    AUGUST WRESTLING DISCUSSION THREAD

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    I want to throw this out there, because it came up on another section of this joint, and I don't want to derail that discussion but it's something that chaps my ass:

     

    Eddie Kingston calls himself "The Last of a Dying Breed," and I really hate it when a wrestler's hyperbole goes beyond the realm of making since.  How can you be the LAST of a DYING breed ... it assumes the breed is already dead, if you're the LAST.  I'm sure there's another - and far better - way to interpret that, and I welcome any suggestions toward that.

     

    Because dying (present tense) does not = dead (past tense). You could be dying and still make a full recovery. Eddie's breed may be dying out but he's still alive, dammit.

     

     

    But see, that's what I was getting at ... thanks, too, by the way ... if the breed is "dying," then he isn't "the last."

     

    Damn you Kingston!  Damn you in the ass!

    AUGUST WRESTLING DISCUSSION THREAD

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    I want to throw this out there, because it came up on another section of this joint, and I don't want to derail that discussion but it's something that chaps my ass:

     

    Eddie Kingston calls himself "The Last of a Dying Breed," and I really hate it when a wrestler's hyperbole goes beyond the realm of making since.  How can you be the LAST of a DYING breed ... it assumes the breed is already dead, if you're the LAST.  I'm sure there's another - and far better - way to interpret that, and I welcome any suggestions toward that.

     

    Also, why not go with the "BEST" of a dying breed.  Nope, not the best, just the last, so ... y'know, sorry, but the rest of the breed is dying, so you're stuck with me.  I mean, when the entire breed dies off totally, I'll be the "BEST" by default, but also, y'know, the worst by default too.  Hey, instead of saying "I'm 'the last of a dying breed,'" I'll change it to, "Hey, I showed up for work on time."  *Cue "Ecstacy of Gold" remix, audience applauds politely.*

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