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I wouldn't think Tully is more past it than say Mr. Fuji during the Yokozuna run or Harley Race was with Vader.
Taz is an interesting case as him providing commentary for his people which is a dynamic change of the manager paradigm. I think it's interesting at least and somewhat cathartic for him to suffer vocally (much like Bobby Heenan's classic Royal Rumble performance even if he wasn't technically a manager at that point). The other managers (Vicky, Jake) suffer from not having chemistry with their charges and being pretty useless in terms of providing motivation and goals for their wrestlers. I think it helps when managers have multiple clients as it allows for a pattern to emerge so we can get insight into the manager's thought process.
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Mordecai Black vs Cody Rhodes
Putting Black over seems like the obvious thing in order to build to something else down the line. The question comes with all of the recent signings if AEW wants to free Cody up for a different new person on the roster. It would be the height of Tony Khan's toyboxism to do that so I kind of doubt it? Cody has become the least of AEW's EVP problems in my mind and I'm thinking this will be pretty decent.
The Five Labours of Jericho Chapter 3: Jericho must win with a top rope move, Chris Jericho vs Juventud Guerrera
This seems like a downgrade from the peril of the Deathmatch last week. One would think they should pile the issues on Jericho as he works his way through the Labors. If he comes out like nothing happened after last week and they don't pile on the issues, they are shooting themselves in the narrative foot. I'm not sure what Juvy will do here that will help the story with the frankly goofy stipulation.
TNT Title Match: Miro vs Lee Johnson w/Dustin Rhodes
I like Johnson, he's got good fire. Miro has been really good on this run but he's not being given enough to do. He was one of the few people to come out of the lockdown era with momentum and it has been allowed to simmer down when they had a hot hand they could have elevated to more than working these sorts of matches.
NWA Women's World Championship Eliminator The Bunny vs "Legit" Leyla Hirsh
I thought this was going to be for a shot at the AEW Women's title but according to the website, its for an opportunity to have a good match with Serena Deeb which I'm slightly more excited for. Honestly, AEW doesn't have the depth to have a second women's title defended on the show but at least it's something for these people to do. I'd prefer to see Hirsh go over but I'm easy either way. One of the less predictable matches in a while.
Christian Cage w/Jungle Boy vs The Blade w/ Matt Hardy
Will Christian Cage be able to knock off Matt Hardy's lackey after he beat Hardy? I mean, I would hope so. This is another backwards build where AEW already blew off the angle and we're going to keep it going for reasons. Blade's not bad but he's also not over so this is a weird booking choice in my mind.
2.0 & Daniel Garcia vs Jon Moxley, Eddie Kingston & Darby Allin
Two of the biggest stars in the company's history plus one of it's breakthrough stars against a debuting tag team who is historically not booked a threat and another guy seems like a recipe for a Dark match rather than a match for Dynamite.
Seems like a down week to me. I'm not seeing the television draw other than Cody-Black but they might pull in more people with all the circulating rumors of new hires. I don't think this is the right card to hook curious viewers personally.
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Mordecai Black vs Cody Rhodes
The Five Labours of Jericho Chapter 3: Jericho must win with a top rope move, Chris Jericho vs Juventud Guerrera
TNT Title Match: Miro vs Lee Johnson w/Dustin Rhodes
NWA Women's World Championship Eliminator The Bunny vs "Legit" Leyla Hirsh
Christian Cage w/Jungle Boy vs The Blade w/ Matt Hardy
2.0 & Daniel Garcia vs Jon Moxley, Eddie Kingston & Darby Allin
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10 hours ago, Krone Meltzer said:
I'm just saying, it's like WWE is no bullshit just giving AEW talent. And we aren't talking Kona Reeves, Fandango here - we are talking legitimate bonafide players here. Multiple. It's pure insanity.
Plus I see ANOTHER (not Adam Cole) superstar asking for their release that could be granted tomorrow? This could be an AEW world way sooner than anyone anticipated. What the hell is Vince's end game here?
If I'm giving Vince all of the Machiavellian credit in the world that he does not deserve as some sort of super genius? He's flooding the market with hungry upper midcarders and Tony Khan is buying all of them, not realizing he cannot possibly push all of them at one time. Eventually those talents get just as resentful for not getting the big push in AEW as they were in WWE. Tony and the EVPs (already well known for being on the thin skinned side) buckle under the pressure of having to appease so many people and double down on pushing themselves and their buddies. AEW becomes a place Vince "sends" guys to get them off television for refreshers knowing they will come crawling back like they always did when they ran to other organizations.
EDIT: Danielson and Punk are obviously not upper midcarders but Vince knows Danielson only has so many miles left in the tank and that Punk is an aging malcontent. Punk is an accelerant to the AEW fire.
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Not being able to write stories for Bray Wyatt was the sign for me that WWE had lost their ability to write at all. Which is why I'm so done with them.
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Regarding Punk, I think right now that if he's not signed and doesn't show up AEW is going to have a major problem with fan backlash and the crowd is likely to highjack the show.
If he is signed and AEW is using him as a surprise, I'm throwing him out as the show opens. While this may blow up the crowd and the rest of the talent might have trouble following him, I think that's a better option than having his shadow loom over the entire evening's proceedings. This is of course dependent on him being a surprise and not announcing him prior to the event.
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Allie (aka Bunny on the Roster Page but still alphabetically under A)
Last Time: Brandi Rhodes booking vortex. Needs expanded role in the Butcher and The Blade act beyond generic second during matches. Bunny mask does a good job hiding her cute features to extenuate her hotness which is the purpose.
Since Last Time: Allie got out of that relationship with QT Marshall and Brandi that no one understood so she could go back to The Blade pairing which is better fit for her. While I'm not a big fan of the Hardy Family Office as a concept, I do think having the women be part of the factions in AEW is a good idea assuming they don't always take the backseat role to the men which is a danger. Bunny has taken on a more important in ring role as a midcarder for the women's division which is good because the individual divisions should have things going on beyond the titles (aka there should be a tag team midcard, a women's midcard and so on). Those things should exist so you don't get stuck in a position where workers disappear and only resurface for title matches and then go away again. Bunny does a good job of being 'the crazy one' in the women's division without treading the same ground as say Abadon who is a different flavor of crazy.
What Now?: More of the same I'd say. Allie probably doesn't justify a larger role which is okay because you need people to put over your stars on the rise who people don't really want to see pushed. She's not likely to break out but she's present enough on the shows that she's neither over or under exposed. Her role with the HFO is suitable to her talent level. She's probably got another 2-3 years of a run at this level at AEW before she'll have to move on or become too much a fixture that no one cares about anymore.
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1 hour ago, AxB said:
- Says there were no negative mentions of the match (meaning everyone liked it).
- Says the match was bad (meaning he didn't like it).
I don’t have the energy to explain how linear time works to you.
Even Deathboy admits that they weren’t talking about here.
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9 hours ago, DeathyBoy said:
I mean if people dislike that style fine, but what bothers me is they advertised Nick Gage the week before on Dynamite with him holding a pizza cutter. The match STARTS with him using the pizza cutter. People had two “maybe this isn’t for you” moments to latch onto… and decided to watch it anywhere just to complain about it. Just don’t watch the match if it’s that offensive to you. Watching it knowing you’ll hate it is the smuggest, most pathetic entitlement I’ve seen in ages.
I don't know how you can be so stunning yet so brave. Who are you even talking about with the Jericho-Gage thing? I went back like 8 pages and didn't find one negative mention other than people talking about sponsors not liking it. It sucked by the way.
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On 7/30/2021 at 12:33 PM, Zakk_Sabbath said:
Completely see your point, but at the same time, I kind of respect Dave's willingness to admit it wasn't his thing but the crowd loved it. But yeah, I don't know what the right answer is either, truthfully. "I gave it 1, the crowd acted like it was 5+... let's settle at 4." I guess the comparison would be something like Rock/Hogan at Mania that year: not necessarily a technical classic, but they were spoon feeding it to that whole arena so brilliantly you kinda have to acknowledge it?
It's really Dave not being strong enough to stand up against his own audience and their desires. Which happens when you as a content creator let the people who pay your bills dictate your actions. If he's hiding behind "the audience loved it" defense, he needs to reevaluate pretty a million matches where the live crowd loved something and he thought it stank. It's not that THE audience loved it, it was because THAT audience (that has lots of crossover with Dave's audience) loved it.
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On 7/21/2021 at 11:48 AM, Spontaneous said:
Are big guys even still draws? The average indy crowd does not want to see that style. It's not like Babatunde was some big attraction when he worked Evolve, people were there to see the NXT wrestlers working the show or the other indy darlings. If Omos had showed up in say PWG one day, what would he do? That PWG over the top style has spread to most promotions.
I think we have to run an experiment and see if Sid would get over today walking out and power bombing people. I'm guessing you'd be surprised by the results.
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Orange Cassidy (w/Kris Statlander) vs. The Blade (w/The Bunny)
Honestly when you are doing top rope Doctor Bombs into the turnbuckles as a break spot in a midcard match, you've lost the plot. I just don't see the point in breaking out these death moves in a match of this level of importance and devalue things in the future. You could have hit all the same beats in a Memphis style match and been just as effective. I'm pretty sure no one else has even mentioned that spot yet so we can already see how AEW has devalued lunatic spots like it.
Frankie Kazarian vs. Doc Gallows
Well, Kaz's singles push is dead and buried. Gallows is moving around like a weeble wobble and is a low value proposition at this point. I don't see the purpose of having him on the roster as anything other than a minor roadblock for babyfaces.
The 5 Labors of Jericho: Chapter 1: Chris Jericho vs. Shawn Spears – “Spears Can Use A Chair, Jericho Can’t”
Jericho being primarily a brawler at this stage of his career makes for bad matchups since he's shit at it. Spears was fine, best moment was when he put his knee over Jericho's arm at one point but it meant nothing in the overall scope of things. I've never seen a Nick Gage match but I have a super low tolerance for death matches so I'm likely to not enjoy the experience. Gage seems like a natural face in AEW to me, so I'm not sure why you'd tie him to MJF to work Jericho.
IWGP United States Title Match – Texas Death Match: Jon Moxley (c) vs. Lance Archer (w/Jake “The Snake” Roberts)
Again, not a death match guy so I'm not likely to enjoy this sort of thing. I was struck that there's a lot of bald to balding white guys in black pants and black shirts on this show.
AEW Women’s World Championship Match: Dr. Britt Baker, D.M.D. (c) (w/Rebel) vs. Nyla Rose (w/Vickie Guerrero)
I skipped to the finish. Baker tapping out Nyla is the right finish. Rose still needs a character change or time off. Baker needs a veteran to drive the action which would be perfect for Deeb. AEW needed to have a secondary women's feud going on during this feud so they'd have a natural challenger lined up.
Darby Allin vs. Wheeler Yuta
Yuta doesn't do anything to make himself stand out from the horde of other small guys with beards that are all over Dark and Elevation. When the highlight of your match with one of the most over guys on the roster is the play fight on the outside, you know you have a long way to go. I actually liked some of the roll up counters in the actual matchup but it was nothing ground breaking to justify Yuta's spot on this show.
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Roaddogg was the charisma and the selling. Billy was the hot tag and had the bigger spots. The point was really that they needed each other more than they needed to split to pursue singles interests. They needed the complimentary pieces.
They were already super over before joining DX just as a reminder.
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It seems to me like a real New Age Outlaws situation where neither guy may have the ability to break out huge on their own but the whole is more than the sum of the parts. Bowens is the steak to Caster's sizzle and both are very important to the other.
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This week seems like a lot of filler nothing matches with not a lot of stakes involved to me. Last week we had 3 matches with build and pay offs and this week we have what looks like a middle chapter in the Jericho-MJF feud which has totally worn out its welcome and hopefully the ending to the Nyla-Britt feud which has been a miss.
Orange Cassidy (w/Kris Statlander) vs. The Blade (w/The Bunny)
Blade is pretty underrated but I'm just over the Orange Cassidy gimmick at this point. I really just don't see this leading to anything unless they are taking the Best Friends against the Hardy Family Office as the next Hardy feud and boy is that not exciting. The Best Friends are really missing Trent as the worker of the bunch, Yuta doesn't feel like he belongs in the group to me.
Frankie Kazarian vs. Doc Gallows
Gallows doesn't do it for me. Kaz has been low key pretty good as the Elite Hunter in a Owen Hart "Blackhart" tribute sort of way. They need to put Frankie over here or he's going to be relegated to ineffective status.
The 5 Labors of Jericho: Chapter 1: Chris Jericho vs. Shawn Spears – “Spears Can Use A Chair, Jericho Can’t”
I hate the 'you can pick the gimmick' stipulation since you could easily stack the deck to a ridiculous degree but you won't. Jericho has looked terrible his last few outings (including Blood and Guts before he fell off the cage) and has been nearly immobile. Spears will have to carry the action and my hot take is that he can actually do that as he's good at getting a lot out of simple things like stomps and knees. Jericho should be able to sell at least so structurally it should work.
IWGP United States Title Match – Texas Death Match: Jon Moxley (c) vs. Lance Archer (w/Jake “The Snake” Roberts)
I assume Mox isn't dropping the other promotion's title on AEW tv? They've really relegated Archer to an ineffective level of putting over main event talents while not protecting him. He needs wins right now and it looks to me like they're treating him like he's Kane and can absorb loss after loss. I'm not sure he's really up to that level at this point.
AEW Women’s World Championship Match: Dr. Britt Baker, D.M.D. (c) (w/Rebel) vs. Nyla Rose (w/Vickie Guerrero)
Dud feud for a champion's victory lap. I hope this ends the feud so they can move Baker onto something else where she is the clear heel where she does her best work. Rose probably needs to be taken off television or removed from the division as they've mined her for all she's worth at this point. She hasn't been protected very well as the monster of the women's division.
Darby Allin vs. Wheeler Yuta
Yuta's introduction has been poor. Him doing jobs to other small faces is a bad way of getting him over on the big show. Putting him over Darby here would be really odd since they just had Sammy beat him last week. I guess Darby has the booking protection from the beating he took last week but I would cast a heel here to take advantage of it, not a technical babyface.
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We already have Baron Black.
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Is there a discord thing going on tonight? The wife is out of the house for the night and I was thinking about hopping on.
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Matt signed up to take 30% of my wrestling earnings as a AEW enhancement talent so really he's got the interest in me rather than the other way around.
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I didn't say Hardy wasn't any good, I said I was uninterested in his current direction.
I actually don't agree with @Technico Supportwith this being a nothing show in terms of 3 angles that should be getting major narrative traction (Christian-Hardy, Team Taz Explodes and the Coffin match). The undercard feels really random though and I'm not jazzed about more Moxley versus The Elite.
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Matt Hardy vs. Christian Cage
I'm totally disinterested in Matt Hardy at this point. Having him have yet another faction made up of the midcard tag team roster is just an excuse for yet another faction that AEW doesn't need unless getting 10 people on screen a match is their goal. I think its fine to have Matt being a Tatanka style grumpy old person on the roster, but his value is not in being the leader of a group. Christian is almost always good, but I'm not expecting a lot.
Penelope Ford vs. Yuka SakazakiNot sure what the value is here. Neither of these ladies are anywhere near the top of the pecking order or have any significant angle going on (unless Miro is going to come out again which is unlikely with no males involved). Yuka's match with King on youtube was pretty lackluster. This just seems like such an odd matchmaking choice.
Sammy Guevara vs Wheeler YutaSpeaking of which. This is one of the first times anyone is going to see Yuta and he's going up against a smaller babyface? Why would you do that? Again, what an odd match to make for Dynamite. I'm not expecting Yuta to move the needle at all.
FTW Championship: Brian Cage (c) vs. Ricky StarksHopefully they put the belt on Starks and kick Cage out of Team Taz to do the babyface run they are clearly doing. I'm really not big on Cage and would be happy to see him go a different direction. His matches on Youtube this week were just more examples that he doesn't have the confidence to work like anything but a 210 pound nobody. Starks being the figurehead of Team Taz would be such a better fit.
Coffin Match: Darby Allin vs. Ethan PageShould be good. I'm enjoying the Men of the Year. Allin and Page have to live up to the hype which should be possible. While I would commonly advocate that Darby slow himself down and not take a world beating bump every week, this is an instance where if he had not been doing it week after week it could have some actual impact.
IWGP United States Championship: Jon Moxley (c) vs. Karl Anderson (w/Doc Gallows & Don Callis)
The Callis Faction is the worst. I really wish they would stop having these US Title matches on AEW television. I don't think they help when Jon ignores the belt every other week when he's not defending it.
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5 hours ago, Casey said:
But is it too similar to the other Jackson brother’s name????
When will we get Page/Cage/Black vs Page/Cage/Black?!???!
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16 minutes ago, John from Cincinnati said:
Won't be able to catch the show live. Hope Jericho and MJF give me at least ten minutes to lean on the fast-forward.
How long is a chorus of Judas?
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Bucks vs. Eddie/Penta
So are the Bucks going to double team a lot and use interference and illegal objects? What a drastic change! I am over the Bucks as the only people who work every week on the show.
First show back on the road, fuck you covid!
Crowd should be molten, hopefully it won't be a chant fest.
Cody vs QT in a Yappapi Strap Match to determine the future of the Codyverse
Is Agogo out hurt or something? He's seems to have gone missing for quite a few weeks and he's the money in the Factory angle. QT has never really caught on as a threat or a character.
FTR (finally gets a TV match) & Wardlow vs THEBESTTHEBESTTHEBESTTHEBEST and Hagar. Should be GREAT.
Yes.
KStat & OC vs Blade & Bunny: First AEW TV intergender match. I'm curious how it goes.
Blade's pretty underrated and Bunny doesn't get enough credit. I assume they won't have male on female violence on national tv but intergender tags under WWE rules are dumb. It will be interesting to see how it goes.
Andrade El Idolo (or "Ill Igloo" if you're JR) vs Matt somebody. Should be GREAT.
Sombra should blow his doors off. Somebody is a journeyman on AEW and there's no value in a good match at this time. Make a star.
Jericho and MJF
please don't call it a promo! Give it a cool namein a FACE TO FACE STANDOFFIt's not a promo! It's not!
JR, in the role most of us want him relegated to, does a sitdown with Darby and the other Page
Darby talking is a bad.
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13 hours ago, odessasteps said:
This did not end well for Mr. Champion
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AEW Dynamite - 8/4/2021
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I would say Miro has had either a backstage interview that is under two minutes long or a competitive squash since winning the title from Darby. He's got no angle going on other than being awesome and no feud of any kind. He feels sort of like Cody during the Factory feud in that he's outside the AEW shared universe and not really doing anything meaningful. If he turns out to be the fifth labor or ties into someone else important, I would be happy to see it.