Zakk_Sabbath
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2 hours ago, just drew said:
If they promise to keep Kenny far the fuck away from his dork-ass buddies, I'd be okay with Kenny Omega winning the title.
You know, we obviously disagree about his dorky buddies (and have argued each other to death about it) but I will say: it could be a sort of "recency bias" thing because he just had the Dome match, or maybe it's the new ring music, but there does seem to be more of an air of seriousness to Omega's character since returning that I've been enjoying.
ETA: For example, and this is a small detail, but his ring announcement: no "Cleaner," no "Best Bout Machine," no "Nooooorth Carolina;" just straight up "Kenny. Omega." I thought it was a nice touch.
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6 minutes ago, Ace said:
God, that never ending MJF/Jarrett sucked all of goodwill that Dubba J had been picking up the past few months.
Can we just FF to when Edgeland beats Mox and Christian cashes in and wins the belt?
I've been struggling with this one from a "what I want to see" versus "what is good for the health and perception of the promotion" perspective.
Christian Cage is probably a top 10-15 all timer for me, and obviously until yesterday Jarrett (as you note) had a tremendous amount of goodwill with the great Hangman matches, and of course the shockingly fun Singh/Dutt/Lethal pairing - so I almost hate to say this, but you absolutely, positively cannot put those guys on top (or near the top) and NOT expect a little bit of the vaunted TNA stank to rub off onto your show.
I half expected MJF to just silently point to the KhanTron and have a picture of Ted McGinley pop up, you know what I mean??
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23 minutes ago, southofheavy said:
would love for it to be Eddie Kingston, but he's not coming back until at least May. Best case scenario, April.
40 minutes ago, Leonidas said:Kingston upon his return would be the most fun, especially if DBry comes back to help him too.
I'll third the idea of Eddie being a fantastic answer, but I've got a feeling all of this "Chris Jericho: King of New York" stuff is leading to his return, so he might be occupado with the ROH belt
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14 minutes ago, NoFistsJustFlips said:
Regardless just a super cringey segment. It felt like they wanted Jarrett to go the whore route and he just wasn't comfortable going there. So they found a compromise for him to say something that wasn't as distasteful to him. But in the end ended up coming off bad all the same.
That was my read too, 12 stepper and all that jazz, I completely get it - totally with you on that vibe.
Also, what the hell man, I didn't f'n recognize you without Eli looking back!!
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2 minutes ago, SovietShooter said:
I think that this promo went waaaaay to long. If Jarrett had just kinda cut MJF off after the first insult and went-8 Mile with the "What are you going to say to me that I haven't heard 1000 times", MJF could've just jumped to the Owen thing - none of that other stuff was needed.
Personally, I'm excited about a Jarrett/MJF feud & match. This promo was a failure thoughYeah, sad to say but I agree, sa-wing and a miss. The beats were there, but the people weren't biting. And yes, 'call girl' was almost physically painful to hear once, let alone 2-3x - it reminded me of Hulk Hogan coming down the ramp on Nitro, and declaring during his air-guitaring "I am gonna kick... Goldberg's... BUTT!!"
Like, I wouldn't go that route, it's not my favorite kind of heat anyway, and I'm in no way arguing for vulgarity for vultarity's sake - but if you ARE gonna go that route I kind of oddly think you need the fowl language, or it comes off inauthentic. I forget which comedian it was but someone did a great standup bit that stuck with me about watching the cable version of Scarface, and lines like "This city is one big (chicken) waiting to get (plucked)" not quite hitting - same idea here.
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30 minutes ago, EVA said:
I still maintain that Janela as a dirtbag heel could’ve worked a a midcard act on Dynamite. Wildly miscast as a sloppy, Indie-ass babyface on national TV.
And it’s weird that they never even tried until right before Janell’s contract expired, because it could not be more apparent how quickly TK had buyer’s remorse over him.
Yo, I'll die on this hill too - he was way over with my gf and 'casual/ex-WWF Attitude viewer trying something new' circle in the beginning in almost the exact same vintage-80s-sleaze way the Outrunners currently are.
I thought this was a phenomenal edition with the exception of the aforementioned middle-section-dragging during the MJF/JJ promo (and by the way, I fully co-sign the idea that Dustin spanked both those guys on the mic in his 45 seconds).
Also, this is kind of paradoxical since both were among the most memorable world title reigns thus far in its short history, but having Omega and Joe back somehow made this show feel super fresh to me. Re: Joe, I also thought the "plan" line by Taz was fantastic - I know with Forbidden Door and guys jumping and yada yada that it's not quite as "special" as it used to be, but I really like that they haven't been afraid to reference Taz' time managing Joe on TNA TV. (Also Taz on Megan 'I rememba huh from Dahk!' Me too, Taz ... Meeee tooooo.)
And while I also have to agree re: the dual hard cam/180 rule, I gotta say, I thought the venue itself came off awesome on TV. I've never attended a card in Cincy, but I always loved that sorta "balcony" look (e.g. RAW at the Manhattan center, ECW at the Madhouse or Hammerstein, this last run of Christmas shows there, etc.) and this place combined it with almost like a San Quentin type thing. It came off like a larger Terminal 9 (for anyone whose seen old ROH stuff from there). Good stuff
ETA: @AxBI just said the same thing to someone yesterday re: Megan/Kamille/Mercedes!! It's baffling they didn't slot her there when she was already in-house
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47 minutes ago, Just Adam Bay Bay said:
Am I the only one that’s surprised Ricochet went from being presented as a star to just basically being the human pinball for Archer and Hobbs? Like couldn’t someone lower on the card fill that role? Like Mansoor maybe?
I had this thought as well, but I'm reserving judgment because I'm wondering if it may be part of the broader Ricochet turn-story, where we're in the middle of establishing a pattern of:
1) Ricochet gets mildly embarrassed (TP in NYC, the pinballing here)
2) Swerve/another babyface goofs on him about it in a promo
3) Ricochet, in response, attempts murder
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1 hour ago, NikoBaltimore said:
Fletcher does an Orton tribute but manages to not make it an Orton tribute act. In doing that I think it's allowed him to slow down and really get a feel for how to interact with the crowd
I agree, the comparatively slower pacing since the turn has helped his crowd work improve tenfold along w assists from Callis, but by the same token (and this is where your '...but manages to not' comes in, IMO) it's not like he's just catching chinlocks for 2 segments straight or anything either. He's doing a good job so far of warding off that Seth Rollins/PAC thing we've talked about here some years back, where they can be almost too flashy to work heel sometimes because it's legitimately impressive shit
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3 hours ago, NoFistsJustFlips said:
Kenny Omega is back. What I would do: Have him win The Casino Gauntlet and beat Mox next week.
Kenny Omega is back. What AEW will do: Have him piss around working 20+ minute matches against under card heels like Cahrlie Bravo and Kip Sabian until having him work Okada in July.
49 minutes ago, dorfus malorfus said:Yeah I think the last Omega return was hindered by immediately putting him into the trios feud with Death Triangle and the endlessly middling Elite vs BCC feud that never really made much sense from a storyline perspective. By the time he had his big singles program with Takeshita he didn't feel "special". I'm not the biggest fan of Omega's work but obviously if he's protected correctly and given meaningful feuds to work within he's potentially their biggest act.
Have to agree. It is crucial they stick the landing with Kenny here, IMO. Yes, there's something to be said for long term planning, but I'm of the opinion that you really, really gotta capitalize on the buzz coming off the Dome match regardless (eg your idea NoFlips, or something very similar).
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18 hours ago, Curt McGirt said:
Unfortunately it's gonna end up being some "the Fallen Angel comes out of retirement" BS. Great. Better make it a gimmick match...
I'm not down on it, BUT this stuck out to me too because it felt kinda similar to the Hangman/Jarrett issue from the fall
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35 minutes ago, Curt McGirt said:
Oh god no. If I never hear that again it'll be too late.
I chuckled at the timing on this because my gf and I caught the Elton/Bernie Taupin Gershwin Prize concert on PBS the other night, and I swear to God out of nowhere she looked at me during and went "You know, I really miss the 'Saturday Night's Alright...' Collision intro"
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Id be cool with the new theme if they went fully retro WCW SN '92 or SNME with the graphics package instead of this NXT 2.5 shit. Get the Outrunners VHS filter on that bad boy.
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1 hour ago, John E. Dynamite said:
Two very good women's matches on a main PPV card and a very storyline-relevant one on the preshow hasn't happened that often. Ever? I think you can trust Toni, Kris and Willow with any-and-everything. They look like the division's unshakeable nucleus.
1 hour ago, Overly Critical Man said:Kris Statlander should’ve won and that’s all I gotta say about this PPV.
1 hour ago, The Natural said:I agree.
I'm really, really hoping (against logic) that we're holding off on our Stat win so that it times with an OG Best Friends reunion. If we're not holding for that, I just don't know what the hell we're doing with OC anymore.
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I enjoyed this PPV aaaasalmost wall to wall (Ospreay/Okada and Stat/Mercedes stole this one huge, with big honorable mention to Take/HOBBS) but this makes two PPVs in a row with a pretty flat ending - and no offense to Edge, but this one didn't even have a vehicular homicide attempt! My bet is we'll get Darby back in the mix on Weds making the save for the babyface team - he's teamed all of em before in various trios/quads configurations with Punk and/or Sting, so it would make total story sense.
Also: I'm not so sure we're setting up for Copeland to be Mox's next challenger, at least not on PPV. We've got a couple months to go until Revolution (with I believe the big Beach Break TV coming up in Jan or Feb) - I could see Edge/Mox as a TV main event there, but only as more or less a pit stop in service of the larger Christian story.
Also: I feel really badly saying this (because I'm almost certain that I'm friendly with the person who designed it) but the new Revolution logo is notttt my cup of tea at all. Gimme my Worldwide green back, man!
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2 hours ago, ExcellenceofAirPollution said:
some of the choices have been head scratchers
2 hours ago, JLowe said:Sacrificing your hottest babyface over and over again is a really bad idea, Bischoff I mean Tony K
I could be way off, but based upon his doing the favor twice in one week, I'm getting the sense that where we're heading is some sort of Ospreay losing streak while contemporaneously, you have Fletcher on this sort of upwards trajectory with the Callis stuff. This way we're set up to revisit their issue in a month or two (Tokyo dome? Revolution might be too far, but I think the big Beach Break TV happens in between, too, so maybe there) doing another version of the self-contrast/compare from the first part of the story - but this time instead of Fletch going "I'm nothing like you!" In the build, it's "Look at your W/L record lately - I'm nothing like you because I'm better"
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1 hour ago, JLowe said:
Jericho interrupting the obnoxious Boom dipshits is a face turn in my eyes.
Dude, I was sitting there thinking to myself "Oh man, the old ECW heads are gonna destroy this poor kid..." Nope. One of, if not THE pops of the night, second only to maybe Ospreay and Swerve. It ain't my thing either, but it's clearly working.
This was easily the most fun I've had at an AEW card since Grand Slam I - I hope the vibe came across on TV, because it was just so much damn awesomeness. Our balcony was a really cool group - we had a great time chatting with folks around us about past cards in the area, almost like a mini-class reunion or a couple old vets swapping stories at the VFW ('Newark? Oh, we missed Full Gear but were at the TV before that,' 'Oh, yup, I think they DID run this match in Connecticut once,' 'I'm never making that fucking drive to Boston again, but we got buddies in Philly' etc.)
I strongly hope this becomes an annual tradition of its own - I think the fact I typed this much about it and haven't even addressed the (amazing) card itself yet, kind of says a lot about the experience.
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Toni and I just made eye contact #ForeverUnsettled
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i've informed my employer that if they want to see me tomorrow, they can catch me on TNT after the game
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1 hour ago, BloodyChamp said:
I could watch Hennig and RVD oversell all day. You know who else was really good at it…Kanyon. He didn’t always do it but when he did he was wild.
That's why I was into dolph a little bit early on
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45 minutes ago, NikoBaltimore said:
Along with the magic in the ring Macho and JR were king-sized themselves on commentary. The enthusiasm felt genuine and it made Kid a made man, at least for one night. It's weird that this match doesn't get talked about as much as other Bret matches but it really should be.
I'll second* this for sure, I love that match and those guys are great on it (really wish they had more time in the booth together tbh). I revisited this one like 10 years ago when the Network came out and it held up awesomely. After we get through this big ROH/AEW weekend (which we may be attending part of, depending on some IRL bullshit) I'm gonna watch it again next week. Part of me wonders if it kinda gets lost in people's memories because it's semi -contemporaneous to the Razor/Kid match which always gets highlighted (or at least used to) on those Raw old-timer nights.
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1 hour ago, HumanChessgame said:
Completely random thought but I remember watching WWE in the early 00s and remember that Val Venis would sell a DDT better than anyone. He'd pretty much dive head-first and get vertical, rather than just kind of flopping down.
I remember that Val sell too - given my young age and overall generally unpleasant disposition at the time, my read was "Totally ripping off RVD's pile driver thing"
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I loved Shelton/Mortos but Ospreay/Darby stole this one in broad friggin daylight. Hats off to those guys, man
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2 hours ago, ExcellenceofAirPollution said:
do like the guy and he's been pretty good so far in AEW, but he's 50 and is forever associated with WWE. I think AEW losing it's "cool" factor and the perception war is due to a lot of things but pushing guys like Shelton is definitely part of it. I think it's straight up booking malpractice if he wins here, but we shall see...
While I think you make a very valid point re: overall cool factor (and the probable outcome here), I disagree on Shelton specifically because he's a guy I think fans always wanted to see pushed there - plus he's got time in NJPW under his belt, along w the shoot credentials. I totally agree with you overall, but idk, it's not like we're talking about the Nasty Boys showing up extra outta shape on TNA TV in 2010
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This card is an embarrassment of riches all around, but Mortos/Shelton is gonna be sneaky-awesome so I'm most looking forward to theirs tonight
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