Octopus
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1 minute ago, John from Cincinnati said:
Don’t care about Punk and the belt, need to see him sell for Gunther. This is the way.
Lol, I was going to make a list of matches I’d like to see and Gunther would be fun. Nakamura too.
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If CM Punk does more Bret Hart tribute matches, I’m in.
6 minutes ago, John from Cincinnati said:They’re belting Cody at Mania and have Punk, welcome to my world!
I could see them being cautious with putting Punk in the main title picture.
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1 hour ago, Elsalvajeloco said:
He's the cousin who is REALLY into cryptocurrency even though he himself doesn't fully understand it yet. He also overuses the word "mid".
Great Seltzer and IPA selection though
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11 hours ago, elizium said:
Ultramantis Black rarely wrestles anymore or leaves the East Coast for shows, that would be a must attend for me.
Timebomb put on a really fun no ring deathmatch/hardcore band show here in the summer. Badger Briggs is cool as fuck.
Ultramantis was one of my absolute favorites in CHIKARA . His promos were so fun and I loved The Order of the Neo Solar Temple. I’m a funk and bloody Gage and awesome Ultramantis should get me pumped up.
I’ve only seen Badger once at a F1rst show and she was cool. We booed her for being from Wisconsin and she did a really funny awkward shrug. -
friends, should I do this instead of Dynamite (if American Dragon isn’t announce)? Nick Cage sounds fun and I want a Timebomb Pro hat or shirt. 
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And the story mode is dumb
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Watched two matches I really enjoyed and was writing about it and someone was kinda entitled on instagram about my film festival that I was doing extra for some of the submitters and it really killed my excited match buzz. Someone literally ruined an 80’s Joshi post match moment for me.
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Derp. What is everyone’s 5 favorite Joshi matches of all time?
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todays match, Misawa vs Kobashi 1/20/97-
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7 minutes ago, Shartnado said:
Would this mean Swerve would be the one breaking Bruno's longevity record? Or is that going to be Roman's record at that point?
Given that MJF's reign has to be winding down, Joe could probably have it for a few months, then Eddie would probably hold it until the next Dynamite after the PPV he wins it at, so this would leave Swerve with quite a stretch before Negative One becomes at least a zero, right?
You put Negative One in a MEC suit for his safety
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2 hours ago, The Natural said:
Rooting for Samoa Joe to win the AEW World Championship from MJF.
MJF -> Joe -> Eddie -> Swerve -> Negative One
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Wait, so Blue is Collision and Gold is Dynamite? Or you think it’ll go back and forth?
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Prayer circle that I get to see Danielson in Minneapolis. It’s a Dynamite instead of a Collision, so I’m thinking he likely won’t be. But this could be my last chance to see the American Dragon.
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To add to this with potential/ probable pivots.
If Shibata is a no-go, switch him with Rush. The tie with Dax could lead to a FTR vs Faccion feud.
Danielson gets hurt in the tourney, you can sub him out for Mox. I’d personally like to have less heavy of a workload for him to begin with, but he was already announced. AEW has a history of subbing talent so it’ll be weird but still consistent with a weird company. Have him have the bloody OC rubber match before entering the tourney so he’ll legitimately be as beat up as everyone else. He’d love it and he could regain the heat after putting OC over by making the finals. He has history with Kingston so it’ll feel authentic. We could then pivot to Mox vs Starks afterwards as a feud.
Ishii can be replaced by any upper card New Japan talent that they’d be willing to send over, if he is a no go. Suzuki could work and the fans know him.
If FTR doesn’t want to look week, you grab either someone from the Callis Family or a luchador like Komander. The issue with using the Callis Family is that the B group would be too heel heavy. But you could balance that out or rearrange before the brackets are released and have the Ishii/ whoever spot switched over to the B group and add Hobbs in to A. But I’m sure we could get FTR on board especially with the emphasis on a strong program they can help craft afterwards. Maybe even take the tag titles off Starks and Bill.
Faaaaantassssssy.
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Octo-Fantasy
In theory, the goal is to add a belt (Continental Champion lol) to merge belts (RoH World & New Japan Strong, I think) so that we can have slightly less belts. I’m in favor of that, it would be smoother if the new AEW belt had some history and wasn’t just newly made, but if the tournament is sweet then we can build it off the awe inspiring greatness of that. Sold.
In my Octo Nine-Brains, I’m looking at this as having maybe three different potential winners: Kingston, Swerve, or Danielson. Swerve is hot right now, but I really think the next title should be for MJF’s World title when he’s ready to drop it. Part of the reason I feel they are doing this is to have a poor man’s G1 for Danielson because he’ll likely never compete. I want this to be the last weekly or heavy work load wrestling he does. After this, build to bigger matches with promos so we don’t get the unnecessary injury in a random Andrade match before his hyped tag type situation. So I’m going to fantasy book backwards Eddie as the winner.
Tony, just Venmo me money now and keep reading as we implement my fantasy plan.
The goal of this tournament for an Eddie win:
A) Kingston becomes a good faith ambassador between New Japan and AEW while still proudly being featured on the smaller RoH.
B) I personally want a Kingston AEW World Champion win in New York against a super heel and everyone cries. But idk if we’ll ever get that or get that soon. Maybe MJF -> Swerve or Samoa Joe -> Kingston. But I could see Tony looking at the RoH title not as a secondary belt and this future Triple Crown as a world championship and maybe it’ll fill the roll in the company’s mind. Idk. I’m looking to fantasy book this, not elsewhere. That’s what Tony is Venmoing me for.
C) Eddie Kingston can feel very Kings Roady.
Ok, Octopus, Fantasy Book backwards. We want Kingston in the finals. He should beat a big deal. Kingston is Kawada, maybe Danielson is Misawa. They both are fucking sweet GOATs that have broken their orbital bone. Plus, this could be a long booking of Eddie avenging his 2010 CHIKARA loss and 2021 Halloween Rampage loss. This writes itself!
I’m worried this isn’t convoluted enough. We should really book a three way tie in the finals. But no one wants a triple threat, so let’s do a smaller Round Robin after the bigger Round Robbin. When have we seen that? That’s right, the 1997 All Japan Champions Carnival. The one where Kawada won. No, not 94, the other one. Yeah, that one. Tony loves rebooking angles, why not this.
If Kingston is Kawada and Danielson is Misawa, who is Kobashi? Hmmmmm. A few people could fit this spot. Hangman could use this as a pivot from his Swerve loss and give him meaningful wins with the eventual failure that drives him to insanity, but idk if I want him in this. Mox would be cool and getting a big name in this that I’m sure he’d enjoy being a part of this, but maybe he has a rubber match with OC instead. It doesn’t need to be a face like Kobashi because in theory we switched face heel dynamics with our Kawada. So Evil Kobashi. Why not Ricky Starks? He could avenge his losses against Danielson. But do we really want Danielson to lose twice in the smaller round robin after the bigger round robin? No, that would be silly. If only there was a way to get them all to have a win. Oh wait.
I was going to say rebook something, but upon research, I am misremembering 2002 RoH. I combined The Era of Honor Begins and Round Robin Challenge. I think? Well, if I’m inventing something, that’s why I get the big bucks. Don’t forget to Venmo me, Tony. Have Starks beat Danielson, Kingston beat Starks, and Danielson beat Kingston. Oh no, what do we do? The thing I didn’t want to, A TRIPLE THREAT. Kingston pins Danielson. Whew, I’m tired.
That’s the final. We get a classic Kingston heart break, but some immediate avenging. Starks is elevated by being in the cheap ass three way final and has a win over Danielson. I don’t want to do draws in this final, unlike the 97 Carnival. This will feel like a big Kingston moment.
FAAAANTASY BOOK BACKWAAAARDS: How do we get here? They can’t all go undefeated especially with their being two groups. So they have to at least have 1 loss. Which of these finalists will take a fall to one of the others? I don’t want Starks to fall to Danielson again and I want to keep Danielson strong especially if he is taking the very final fall. Kingston can afford his loss against Danielson AND the second loss to him in the smaller round robin if he is pinning Danielson in the very end.
So we have our groups forming:
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Kingston
Danielson
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Starks
This round robin is going to represent RoH & New Japan. I don’t really watch either product too regularly, but don’t tell that to Tony. He’s going to Venmo me based on my knowledge and expertise. With Six wrestlers per group, we need maybe two each. One of the New Japan guys will need to look strong, but not enough to make the Finals. A solid second place or so. Maybe Ishii? If New Japan can afford to have him in the US for at least 5 matches. The second? Maybe Rocky Romero who we (we being Tony and myself, now that Tony is Venmoing me I rightfully feel a part of the company) have a good relationship with. He can afford losses, but not full on jobbing. From RoH? Claudio is a safe bet. Keep him away from Kingston and Danielson though. Although a Danielson match would be sweet, I’m not in a refreshed rivalry against Kingston for this. I believe Mark Briscoe is already announced. Good stuff. Let’s break them into the groups:
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Kingston (4-1)
Danielson (4-1)
Ishii (3-2) loses to both Kingston and Danielson
Rock Romero (?-?) I don’t know if it matters, but for traveling it might be nice to send Romero and Ishii together
B)Starks (4-1)
Claudio (3-2) He can’t get the to finals but should look strong as a former RoH champion
Mark Briscoe (?-?) lovable face that these heels can beat
Oh shit, Shibata. I read @Gordlow’s post and forgot I wanted him in this too. We’ll add him in the next go around. so with Shibata, we have to add more AEW talent. Well, Andrade has been added already. also, they have a point system of 3 points for a win and 1 for a draw. This implies draws as being a thing. So let’s add them and add the points up currently:
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Kingston (4-1) 12 points
Danielson (4-1) 12 points
Ishii (3-2) 9 points
Andrade (3-2) 9 points . I’m penciling him in to lose to Ishii and Kingston, but get a shock win over Danielson. Thanks to advice from Bendy. Then we can jump into the Andrade v Miro feud after this tournament.
Rocky Romero (?-?) ? Points
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Starks (4-1) 12 points
Claudio (3-2) 9 points
Shibata (2-2-1) 7 points . He will lose to both Starks and Claudio, but have a draw.
Mark Briscoe (?-?)
Ok, I’m checking my account and I still haven’t gotten it, Tony. I’m doing this fantasy thing in good faith. We need 3 people that will mostly take loses and 1 of them that can afford loses but is credible enough to draw with Shibata. The other thing, we are pretty heel heavy in group B. Do we put in a stronger face or lovable person to cheer for but can’t put up the big wins. Maybe Dax and Cash. They’re tag team specialists, so they can lose single matches and it will still be a good work rate choice for the theme of the tourney. They’ll be in B. I want to throw Rush in A, but idk if he’d take the loses. We don’t want another situation where he rightfully make ms Jungle Boy look like a punk (he knew that he’d single handedly be the reason CM Punk leaves). Does Dustin match the spot? Let’s give it to Dustin.
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Kingston (4-1) 12 points
Danielson (4-1) 12 points
Ishii (3-2) 9 points
Andrade (3-2) 9 points
Rocky Romero (1-4) 3 points . Give the New Japan guy the win over the AEW guy out of good faith and thank them for having him be fodder for the rest of the group
Dustin (0-5) 0 points . He could give a great promo at the end and if you want to keep using him on tv, you team him with a young guy. Etc. Venmo me more for that fantasy booking, Tony
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Starks (4-1) 12 points
Claudio (3-2) 9 points
Shibata (2-2-1) - 7 points
Dax (2-2-1) 7 points . Loses to Cash because I feel like he’d return the favor to his friend, beats Mark and the shake hands, and then ties with Shibata to set up an ROH Pure title match. He will also beat Claudio.
Cash (2-3) 6 points . Win over Dax to even out their singles matches and beats Mark.
Mark Briscoe (1-4) 3 points . Shock win over Starks!!!!
FTR take a hit from this, but you double down on giving them more success as a team. Also can have them team with Mark to go for one of the Trios belts to restore their honor. Again, Venmo me, Tony.
Mark surprise roll up to Starks could be a big moment.
Claudio and Andrade come up short but look strong going into their next stories.
Danielson (if healthy) loses in the end but looks like a legend.
Dustin can have competitive loses and still be Dustin.
Shibata can look like a killer and during his two loses you have commentary drop that he’s a Pure wrestling specialist. Which will lead to the future Dax match.
Ishii is made to look special for future appearances.
Kingston loses to Danielson. Then we get convoluted and have him lose to Danielson again. Then we get even more in the weeds and have him pin Danielson.
Starks’s only losses is to Kingston and Mark Briscoe. Then in the final moment, he loses but doesn’t get pinned. He has the big victory over Danielson and it is Danielson losing to someone else that takes his potential victory away.
I’m typing this on the forum so hopefully the math makes sense. I had to go back and change it because I was adding up to 6 instead of 5.
Already, I stayed up until 1 typing this. Venmo me, Tony.
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I truly believe MJF is a curse. He’s the Madden cover of wrestling. Everyone he feuds with bad things happen to.
Cody - leaves AEW and tears boob. Also, neck tattoo.
Jericho - Pulmonary Embolism
CM Punk - stuff happened
Wardlow - selfish money grab ruins him and he loses on confidence and Powerbomb ability
Sammy Guevara - Spirals out of control and leads Kingston to become suspended. He was never forgiven
Bryan Danielson - injuries
Jungle Boy - gets suspended and is single handily responsible for CM Punk leaving
Darby Allin - wants to climb a mountain like a rich tourist. Loses all edge
Jon Moxley - betrayed by Regal and now bleeds every day
Adam Cole - super everyday injury
I pray every day to protect Jay White and Samoa Joe. But my prayers will fall on deaf Burberry ears.
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I want Four GM’s.
Dynamite: Alex Marvez
Collision: Arn Anderson
Rampage: Evil Uno
ROH: Stokley Hathaway
then have a Survivor Slam multi man match!
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Just now, Cobra Commander said:
Brian Cage isn’t the most valuable heel named Cage to feud with in this company.
Lol, Hangman takes on the Patriarchy would be oddly fitting and kinda funny.
It’d have to be after the Cope vs Christian match though
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I’m happy to be positive about the product again.
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The Devil Derp does help with a PPV again in December. It’s not like it’ll be drawn out 3 or more months more, hopefully.
1 minute ago, Craig H said:I also love booking the Young Bucks to act like little bitches after losing. They just can’t beat Kenny.
I loooooved the tantrums. Annoying Bucks are the best Bucks.
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Hangman absolutely ripped apart and stapled the fuck out of Swerve. A loss is low key ok considering everything that happened in the match. Especially given Hangman’s character always has built in loss protection. It could be spinner off into a Hangman vacation, a new feud with Cage, trying to keep the Elite friends bull shit, him being crazed now, or continue the feud if they have nothing ready for Swerve.
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Just now, Zakk_Sabbath said:
Absolutely agree - I'll give them this, though I was not a fan of it for the reasons I wrote above (or really that Octopus wrote), it was at least an attempt to involve Cole in a fairly novel way rather than six more months of video chats and ADAAAAAAM! and shit.
My biggest question is probably whether the devil's non-appearance leans toward it being Cole, or does it lean toward the idea that they just have absolutely no fucking plan
Swerve was too beat up from the previous match to get back in his Devil suit.
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The TBS Triple Threat was great! They knocked it out of the park. Julia gets the win while Statlander still looks strong. Until the Texas Death, that was my March of the night.
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MJF cried in media scrum as a super in pain babyface. Dedicated this match to his grandpa who believed in him that passed away three years ago today. He’s crying a lot and in pain. Wow.
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Survivor Series XXXVII : WarGames - 11/25/2023
in WWE PROGRAMMING
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This is a win for Octopus. A potential of great matches and hot goss?!