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On 10/12/2024 at 4:43 PM, SirSmUgly said:
Brian Knobbs dumps the Dog and drives off…The Dog howls at the moon…I think you know which list this is going to hit…
THIS is the Simpsons reference that cracked me up. Or maybe just a Simpsons coincidence... But I remember watching it with my brother and saying they should drive him to the country like the Be-Sharps getting rid of Chief Wiggum, and then he even did the howl! I mean, upon rewatching it, it's hard not to see the sadness in The Dog's eyes as he pretends to drink out of the toilet in a "Is screentime really worth THIS?!" kind of way. But, actual reference to Simpsons or not, it still makes me chuckle.
On 10/12/2024 at 4:43 PM, SirSmUgly said:Excess wrestles Los Fabulosos
So Lenny and Lodi became homosexuals, who became brothers, who became Standards and Practices (Is this where Lodi became Idol), who became To Excess (Too Excess?), Idol went back to Lodi, and then they became Excess. Too bad they never became good...hahahah
On 10/12/2024 at 4:43 PM, SirSmUgly said:Disco Inferno orders a pizza under Vito’s name, but Vito and Johnny the Bull storm into the dressing room and demand that he order fewer pizzas and order more tag title rematches, then say that they got Disco a match against Vampiro, which they hope he enjoys alone because they have dates to go on…
This reads like someone running a wrestling...skit (?) through an AI program with the keyword "Italian" and the program went "Italians? Pizza! And bragging about dates!" Truthfully...that's PRETTY accurate.
On 10/12/2024 at 4:43 PM, SirSmUgly said:The KidCam catches a different shot of Buff Bagwell finishing his pre-tape from earlier in the show...It keeps rolling, and we see Buff shooting his shot at, and getting his shot turned back by, the production lady immediately after…She rejected his shot like she was Dikembe Mutombo (RIP)…All that was missing was a finger wag…
Man...someone backstage REALLY hated Buff
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On 10/11/2024 at 9:50 PM, twiztor said:
Better Than Ezra's hit single, "Good":
The most memorable thing about them might be Norm McDonald's joke: "Number 1 in the college charts this week, Better Than Ezra. And at number 2? Ezra."
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1 hour ago, EVA said:
When assessing Meredes’ recent performances, I feel like not enough consideration is given to the fact that she’s coming back from a catastrophic ankle injury. It’s possible she’s still struggling with that and might never really gets back to what she was before.
I think this could be a big part of it but I also think she works better from underneath as a face because her offence is flashy and she's, quite frankly, tiny. The problem is her character (I'm the bossss...I'm the besssst....I'm doing that goofy dance!) mainly works better as a face. Plus she stumbled into that awkward AEW fan reaction ("OMG a new wrestler! They're no longer gonna be held back! Well, wait I don't want them going over him/her! Boo! Go back to WWE") much like Saraya, Toni Storm, Ruby etc. that necessitated the abrupt heel turn (I still don't buy that she was brought in to be a heel all along, I think the heel turn was an absolute pivot based off the fans not wanting her to beat Willow). I think she'd work better from underneath against Statlander (Although she seems to be an abrupt face again now too), or fighting off Saraya and crew, providing back-up for Willow moreso than needing her own heater.
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Darby attacking King with a rock was so odd. I especially liked
Excalibur: Is that a rock in his hand?
Tony: No! it's...it...it is
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Tony: He had that rock in a recent interview that we saw...
So Tony completely refutes it being a rock in Darbys hands but half a minute later can totally remember that Darby used a rock in a recent promo. It's the worst kind of modrrn wrestling commentary where you can tell theyre being fed lines by someone.
Speaking of bad commentary, Mariah should maybe not do anymore. Scooby Doo references?
Now on to good commentary, I was very much dreading Jarrett replacing Taz but he was excellent. Put a lot of guys over, didn't put himself over. Does He do commentary on Collision/Rampage? Because of not, he should.
Jake Roberts not being in TV for MONTHS only to return to manage a group of luchadores is my kind of goofiness.
I hope Don Callis didn't spend a lot in Archer's contract seeing as never bothered to come out and help him.
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What's fascinating at this point is that It WCW is coasting on old guys in way too prominent roles (Hogan, Luger, Flair, Funk, Arn are way too prominent) but simultaneously trying to elevate their midcarders near the main event. But rather than try to elevate guys who have been there a while and are over to a degree (Booker, Kidman, even Disco and Lash are getting reactions-ish), they are elevating guys who have been there a relatively short time (Harris Bros, Wall, Mamalukes) and have shown no real skill or even ability to get over, despite being all over the show.
Also, I have to clarify my point on the Dog and a genuinely funny moment. I have since gone back and watched it, and it's terrible, but the reason it was so funny to me is that I had been watching it with my brother and were marvelling at how stupid the whole thing was (And also laughing that they kept his name as Al Greene, a homophone for the famous soul singer, and trying to imagine Al Green's voice coming out of Al Greene or trying to imagine Al Green in Al Greene's role) and I presented a way to write him off TV cribbing from a Simpsons episode and then they go and do almost that exact thing. So, just to clarify, The Dog is some all-time terrible WCW stuff, please don't think less of me for my endorsement of it!
You know what's really underratedly dreadful is how much WCW is using some...I'll be nice and say "Underwhelming talent" here: The Wall, Lodi/Lenny, Al Greene, Brian Knobbs, The Maestro, the Mamalukes, David Flair, burned-out Bam Bam Bigelow. And there were WAY more talented wrestlers out there that they could have brought in who would have brought more talent-wise or charisma-wise than these guys and likely been a lot cheaper (Michael Modest and Christopher Daniels, for instance, who are about a year away from a WCW tryout match were both better wrestlers than any of the aforementioned, even if your mileage on both may vary). It's not even a case of pushing workrate guys which was all the rage back then, it's just being mystified at the guys they ARE pushing. Like what about the Maestro would persuade anyone that he needs TV time and a decent push, he's average in the ring and nothing he's done gets over in any conceivable way. It's so WEIRD.
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10 hours ago, SirSmUgly said:
Funk claims that he has Dustin’s bastard of an illegitimate baby brother in the bag, and it’s
Codya raw whole chicken in a diaper.I remember being rather grossed-out by this at the time and thinking how darkly ironic it would be if Terry Funk had survived all those insane death matches over the years, only to succumb to salmonella poisoning from carrying around that raw chicken.
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I wonder how much AEW fans ACTUALLY watch Collision/Rampage because seems to be a notable lack of heat for wrestlers mostly relegated to those shows (Save FTR and Christian). I'm mostly saying this in reference to Aminata's save because that crowd could not have cared less. But I have noticed it in the past with other wrestlers too (IIRC Mortos got a pretty lacklustre response until he started Mortos things which woke the crowd up pretty fast).
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5 hours ago, SirSmUgly said:
Unintentional comedy, I presume, but let's find out if WCW can surprise me by being intentionally funny.
Intentional, actually. Also pretty sure it was lifted from the Simpsons.
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45 minutes ago, SirSmUgly said:
Vito lands a Paisan Plunge on a distracted Lodi for three
Read this as "Paisan Plunger" and wondered if there was some different Italian variation of the plunger before re-reading it.
52 minutes ago, SirSmUgly said:- Knobbs: IT’S TIME TO BRING OUT THE DOG. I don’t know what that means, but I assume it will be very stupid.
Oh it will be...but it also leads to one of my favourite WCW comedy segments ever...unless I imagined it.
56 minutes ago, SirSmUgly said:One lone kid, maybe caley’s little bro, yells TANK ABBOTT
Haha that would be amazing...but in the summer my little brother AND my cousin will both get on camera! My cousin just stares into the camera while the commentary yammers on about either a Tank Abbott attack or a Harris Bros. run-in (So you've still got many months of them ahead!) and slowly does the RVD point-to-yourself pose then points at the camera.
59 minutes ago, SirSmUgly said:Pre-tape: Rachtman shoos Disco and Three Count off the stage, demands that the Nitro Girls dance instead, and then does a stage dive.
I have to ask: Does anyone catch him?
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20 hours ago, SirSmUgly said:
Finlay takes them both out, then Tombstones Karagias for three
See, this is the biggest problem with Three Count for me. Fun workers, fun gimmick, but they should win all 3 on 1 matches easily. Someone in WCW clearly wasn't happy with hiring them/their gimmick (In Chris Jericho's book he talks about being hired by Eric Bischoff then getting a phonecall from a ticked-off Kevin Sullivan several days later begrudgingly calling him in for a "Try-out", not knowing he was already under contract), because Three Count gets NOTHING in terms of matches. Their gimmick of preening prettyboy boy band members works perfectly in concert with them being cowards who can't win a match one-on-one, I'm cool with that. But once it gets two on one and especially three on one, they should be winning all those matches. The fact that they can't even beat low-to mid carders in 3-1 matches, keeps them from getting any heat.
20 hours ago, SirSmUgly said:This complete fucking animal Gene Okerlund is in Jarrett’s dressing room, where he remarks to the seated nWo ladies, “You don’t spend too much time on your feet”
20 hours ago, SirSmUgly said:Okerlund: “Not back to this crap again”…I guess he’s the vessel for the at-home viewer’s thoughts…
The Okerlund taketh, then he giveth.
20 hours ago, SirSmUgly said:Her response: *scoffs* “C’mon, it’s Buff Bagwell”…HAHAHAHA…
Daffney also a vessel for the viewer
20 hours ago, SirSmUgly said:We miss some of the audio from Booker and Kidman barely liking each other enough to cut a deal on watching one another’s backs…
I read "barely liking each other" as "barely licking each other" and was grateful for the lack of audio!
20 hours ago, SirSmUgly said:His life has been ruined by DA BIZNESS and he lost his wife and apparently only kept a few Goldust suits in the divorce…
I was thinking about what one would do with a Goldust suit and was reminded of the interview where they asked Michelle Pfeiffer if she kept her 'Batman Returns' cat suit and wears it to spice things up and she was like "Oh god no, that suit was vacuum-sealed so I could barely breathe in it and we were only allowed to film for a limited time before it became dangerous." Apparently it was so tight that they had to repeatedly tell her to stop screaming her lines because she was in such pain wearing it. There was no need for this anecdote...I just thought it was funny and horrible. Much like Dustin wearing Goldust suits outside of a wrestling setting.
20 hours ago, SirSmUgly said:We cut to Kevin Nash, who is watching Sid on a monitor and claims that Sid is the Joker…One of the nurses suggests calling for Superman, but Nash is annoyed because everyone knows that Supes is a fictional character…It’s funny because so is Batman, but Nash thinks he’s real, don’tcha see…
Giving me flashbacks to high school creative writing classes: "No it's funny because..."
Man, I can't believe how long the write-up for this is...like I kept scrolling up every time I'd quote something and go "I can't believe how stuff is on this 2 hour show!" but not in a good way.
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9 hours ago, SirSmUgly said:
There’s another goddam hour of this show. FUCK.
This made me chuckle
9 hours ago, SirSmUgly said:- Madden: “I can’t believe that Buff took ‘no’ for an answer…” He’s made a fantastic point, but also, Buff is supposed to be a babyface!
"Look he's a good guy...except for when it comes to consent!"
9 hours ago, SirSmUgly said:Jimmy Hart’s just trying to get some popcorn in the back when TTP and Ric Flair come across him and kick his ass.
I know this is because he's Hogan's buddy and figured into the main event after, but I'd much prefer it to be a random weekly event where people beat up Jimmy Hart as he tries to get a snack.
9 hours ago, SirSmUgly said:This show tried to get the Harris Bros. over as a force to be reckoned with except for when they needed help from Dustin Rhodes to fend off a fifty-something Terry Funk.
I, again, also have to puzzle over WHY they were trying to get the Harrises over. It wasn't like they won a bidding war for their services. It wasn't like fans felt they were held down in either WWE or ECW. It wasn't like they were some secret workrate maniacs or had especially highly-rated segments. I could actually understand this push if it was Kronik (Even though I pretty much hated Kronik), I could understand this if it was someone they had poached away from the competition (The Dudley Boyz, The Hardyz). Honestly, even if it was just a return of the LOD, I'd understand it. But, all of this to get over a team that's never really been over...is just such...as my 4 year old niece says, a bummer (She got in trouble last month for saying to her grandfather "You're a bummer, man!" from her parents (My dad thought it was hilarious) and we're still not sure where she picked it up because I'm pretty sure the Paw Patrol never call anybody "bummers").
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2 hours ago, SirSmUgly said:
- don’t like Tank Abbott, but it’s weird that they’d expect us to care about him feuding with some dude in the audience who we know nothing about. He has not been helped in any way by his booking. Anyway, this Leather Jacket on a Pole Match that I cannot believe didn’t originate from a Russo initiative is up next. This is, you won’t be surprised to find out, a total catastrophe. Al takes his belt off and loops it around his wrist while Abbott yells YOU WANNA FUCKIN’ GO, WELL LET’S GOOOOOOO. Al drops his belt while trying to loop their right hands together.
- They finally loop their right hands together and punch each other with their left hands while yelling DO IT, C’MON DOOOO ITTTTT, BRING SOME MORE SHIT TO THE TABLE, DO ITTTTT. Al goes to one knee after a left, but then he gets up and hits Tank in the face with a left forearm as the belt falls off again. Al gently moves Tank toward the corner post and, after a few hours…he backs off of yanking him crotch-first into the post. Al yells THAT’S TOO GOOD FOR HIM before climbing with the speed and agility of a geriatric eighty-something up to the lowest rope and then gently stepping onto Tank’s face. Tank fires up and lands a right and a few hammerfists before scoring a judo throw and yelling GET UP, FUCKFACE. So many cusses!
- So, this match is far too long and incredibly shitty. Tank puts Al in Samoan Drop position, then climbs the ropes and…accidentally drops Al to ringside. Tank goes back up and grabs the jacket as the crowd chants YOU FUCKED UP. He really did; that was supposed to be his big strongman spot. After the bell, Tank pulls out a switchblade, holds it to Al’s throat, and then yells I SHOULD KILL YOU! I SHOULD FUCKIN’ KILL YOU! Tony S. pretends he has scissors and that he’s really going to clip the clean-shaven Al’s beard as we immediately cut to a wide shot of the crowd. I mean, if you’re going to land yourself on the Absolute Dirt Worst list, do it in style, right?
I actually LIKED the Tank Abbott push at the time. I think maybe his "aura"(?!) was bigger at the time; the mythology of him being a big, beer-drinking, street fighter, he had a genuinely scary persona (I know I've told the story many times on here but even in the midst of his 3-Count association, when he showed up to Nitro here people were still genuinely TERRIFIED of him except, of course, my little brother). I actually loved the idea of giving him the World Title (again, at the time) but he had to be presented better and trained better. Like if he came out, threw good punches and was able to basically brutalize guys into unconsciousness, sort of a portly Goldberg push, I think he could have believably been a short-term World champ (Plus you could have someone like, say, Sting beat him by just being more experienced and outlasting Tank's initial flurry).
But even as Tank's maybe biggest pro wrestling fan, this whole storyline was TERRIBLE. First off, and it's a minor quibble, but they already had Al Green bouncing around WCW shows, often referred to as "Big" Al Green (Plus 911 also spent some time in WCW as Big Al), so to introduce this new random (shitty) guy known as Big Al, you immediately muddy the waters with "Wait is that the guy from WCWSN?! Wait is that 911?" Secondly, he was terrible. Thirdly, he should have at least beaten up a jobber on Nitro to get over that he was a genuinely a threat to Abbott. Then to have this leather jacket on a pole match was ludicrous. And lastly that whole post-match thing was either A) a poorly-conceived storyline that Tony Schiavone was the only one smart enough to realize that it was going to sink them and tried to kayfabe over the top of or B) Something Tank came up with himself that Tony Schiavone tried to cover for. Either way, someone should have gotten dumped for that one!
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2 minutes ago, zendragon said:
I say let Shane book ROH for 6 months...
ROH Underground!
In all honesty, though, I actually thought Raw Underground (Shane's big idea) was kinda cool and, at least, a little different presentation-wise for WWE. I think if they had tweaked it and, more importantly, kept it separate from WWE they could have at least built up some new stars with it. I liked Shane as the mouthy Dane White-esque leader of the group and while the shootfights were..ehhh....they could have worked on the concept a bit. I think if the concept had been a little more "This is different" and less "This is really REAL" it might have stood a chance, plus keeping Vince and Dunn away from it.-
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I never want to hear anyone complain about the MITB suitcase being lame after Christian's title shot was derailed because of theft of the official pen! Seriously there are no other pens at ringside?! Or does it have to be that pen?! So you could just steal the pen and his title shot just disappears??
Danielson-Nigel was all right but there was too much goofiness (the headstand spot was so stupid that a guy who's supposed to be such a ring technician wouldn't just stand on the other side of the ring and wait for him to climb down instead of running into discreet repeatedly; you could argue he was so infuriated by Nigel that he charged in but that doesn't line up with this vicious personal feud opening with chain wrestling) and such weak strikes (I think Danielson was trying REALLY hard not to get anywhere near Novel's head).
Highlight of the show was Prince Nana cosplaying as Jimmy Hart as the Hulkster's manager ( "Swerve is working so hard to get back for you kids!" ) being interrupted by MVP who delivered the promo of he night, just pandering enough to get pops, just heelish enough to set up the future.
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I'm just on Episode 2, and the part where Vince denies assaulting Rita Chatterton then completely hedges in the next breath is just BRUTAL (paraphrasing) "They accuse you of rape and you're a rapist, doesn't matter if you did it. It wasn't a rape...and if it was the statute of limitations had passed anyways."
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19 hours ago, AxB said:
No, he's English. He's the Poundland Jesse Ventura.
Wait, is the UK Dollar store brand really called "Poundland"?!
I thought the Canadian one being 'Dollarama' was hilarious!
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4 hours ago, Gordi the recovering AEW f said:
It's no secret that I think Nigel bullying Tony S and relentlessly ladling out heel cliches and misusing five-dollar words on commentary is the absolute dirt f'n worst and I hate it so much that I basically can't even watch Collision most weeks.
I thought it was just me! I can't STAND Nigel's commentary. It's just so phony and obviously him playing the "bad guy colour commentator" role that it doesn't suit him at all. And the majority of his insults to Tony are just kind of lame or mean-spirited, unlike Taz who generally tweaks Tony in a way that you can kind tell Schiavone gets a kick out of (Though they've both crossed the professional line a time or two). Plus, his "obsession" with Danielson generally takes over the match and undermines whatever story they're trying to tell in the ring. He's like the Dollar Tree version of Jesse Ventura.
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5 hours ago, SirSmUgly said:
OH YEAH, PAGE HIT THE WRONG ROPE AND THE MACHINE CROTCHED HIMSELF ANYWAY…HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA…AHAHAHAHAaaaaaaa…Oh man…
I didn'r remember this, looked it up and it is AMAZING. The way he leaps, anyways, crotch-first onto the ropes then yells really loud really baffles the crowd, especially on that side as it genuinely looks like Machine climbed to the top and just leapt off the top, crotch-first onto the ropes because he wanted to. Maybe they should have made a gimmick of this. He already had the gimp-ish mask, make him a BDSM guy who really ENJOYS getting beaten up or injuring himself!
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7 minutes ago, Death From Above said:
Hopefully they stay on regular TV in Canada. I don't catch Dynamite every week but it's nice to have the option to track it down easily without needing yet another subscription I forget I have.
While TSN seems to be semi-promoting it (And using it to prop up their subscription service ("Order TSN to see Rampage and Collision!") and happy with it, I do wonder if Rogers comes calling with them seemingly losing WWE rights.
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43 minutes ago, Technico Support said:
Vince sure loved putting his trash political beliefs into his booking, didn’t he? Vegan and environmentalist? Heel. Person who is outspoken about human rights (for the wrong humans)? Heel. Antifa and BLM proxy stable? Heels.
I kind of judge Danielson a little for selling out his beliefs like that.
Counterpoint: No one likes vegans. (This is coming from a 25 year vegetarian who is just one proper vegan cheese that actually melts (Unlike everything out there now) so I can continue eating pizza away from being vegan, myself!)
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20 hours ago, SirSmUgly said:
He’s more of a suit-and-tie Wall Street sort of guy
The image of Scott Steiner trying to read and understand the WSJ brings me great joy.
20 hours ago, SirSmUgly said:Jarrett says SLAPPY NEW YEAR, which is really awful,
I know Jarrett had good matches in WCW but it's all overshadowed in my brain by his dreadful promos and skits like this.
So the nWo's endgame was to beat up Arn Anderson and NOT to win the tag titles?! Then why did they enter the tournament?! I remember at this point in my WCW fandom being very enthused by the Flair/Crowbar tag titles win because I was completely over the Outsiders and the belts had been passed around amongst mediocre teams for MONTHS at this point. At least Crowbar was pretty good and the team, itself, was somewhat new!
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5 hours ago, twiztor said:
i think Jimmy Hart was the main creative force behind this one. or maybe i'm misremembering due to his actual musical history.
I have no evidence of this but I bet, even with the inclusion of Evan Karagias, the WCW boy band was probably better than the Indy one and I base that largely on Jimmy Hart's involvement
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42 minutes ago, SirSmUgly said:
I shit on Russo all the time for having stupid ideas and bad gimmick concepts, but this one, in fact, totally rules…He should get his props for this…Now let me find out that it wasn’t his idea…I almost expect someone to post that it wasn’t his idea below…
Am I first?
It wasn't his idea.
Pretty sure it was an Indy gimmick that also probably would have worked a little better because they replaced one of the original members with Karagias and then signed the other two.
Edit: The group was called The Badstreet Boys and consisted of Moore, Helms, Christian York and Joey Matthews (Mercury) and somehow WCW signed all of them but only out Helms and Moore in 3 Count!
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7 hours ago, SirSmUgly said:
Morrus meets this guy in the aisle, and apparently it’s his senile dad.
Boy do I NOT remember this at all.
7 hours ago, SirSmUgly said:Screamin’ Norman Smiley, in Ravens gear, comes
I read this as "Raven's gear" and got a good chuckle at the visual of Smiley in a leather jacket screaming away.
7 hours ago, SirSmUgly said:Piperjust has to do one more thing to seal the deal and tell everyone in Baltimore (where Nitro is located) that he sold out and that screwing Goldberg was his idea
But but but people who are watching this at home would see that it was really Russo's idea AND the people in the crowd so why would a condition of his deal be to go lie about something already knows isnt...never mind
7 hours ago, SirSmUgly said:Bitches, man. Bitches.
You just KNOW if this was modern day, Karagias would get his own Russo-created shirt that said something "Chilling Ultra Cool Karagias" and the joke would be that he didn't know it spelled out "CUCK" but then, in true Russo fashion, it would be mentioned 6-7 times in every segment in case someone didn't get how clever he was.
6 hours ago, zendragon said:I bet after nitro Piper put on a nice dress went down to the lounge at the Holiday inn and had everybody call him "Mrs. Habidasher"
Is Russo showing his face on screen yet? I remember him being the voice of TPTB but I'm not sure when he fully transitions to on screen character
I wonder why he decided to keep his face hidden to begin with? He clearly likes the spotlight but didn't want his face in TV?!
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Imagine trying to explain this show to a non-viewer. "Well the matches are all predetermined but you suspend your disbelief: like watching a movie. But this segment the wrestlers are insisting is real is still fake but now is labeling the other segments as fake. So you're supposed to think that this segment is really real while the other segment is fake real. But it's all fake but it...forget it"
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Smelly watches every Nitro-era Nitro, Thunder, Clash, and PPV while sitting and sometimes maybe standing
in WWE PROGRAMMING
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Same! I do not recall the second part nor do I want to Google it