caley
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9 hours ago, JLowe said:
For Bowens, ditch the 5 tool player aspect, lean into the Pride of Pro Wrestling because that’s what people connect with, and I think AEW can do that in a thoughtful, positive way.
He's almost got this over-the-top TRYING to sell either gimmick so hard feel to him, that I'd like to see him pivot to being a health and wellness influencer (Like that one that went viral where the guy soaked his face in expensive bottled water) who is so overly trying to sell you on what a great person/role model he is that the crowd turns on him. Have him brag about getting up early to go to the gym and how disappointed he is that people can't maintain his standards. I think he'd be better as a delusional heel who acts eartnes than an actual earnest babyface, IMO.
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7 hours ago, Cobra Commander said:
in the spirit of the "Computerized Wrestler of the 90s" gimmick in WCW... a wrestler that claims to be using AI to win matches
extra points if they're using AI and still jobbing
Would it be too much of an on-the-nose joke if at the end it was revealed the AI he was using was just this guy?
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/A-1_(wrestler)-
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Has anyone been following this Karrion Cross can't take a back bump trend on the ol' Twiter? Kinda fascinating.
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On 6/8/2025 at 11:42 AM, SirSmUgly said:
Oh, the match! It's fine. Gedo is a dick and Jericho is a fiery babyface, and both men play their roles well. Jericho's not a good enough athlete to do that top-rope Frankensteiner, though. The match sort of gets ugly after that spot, though I did like Gedo's kneebreaker reversal. Gedo badly misses a top-rope dive, like he wasn't even close to Jericho, and submits to the Lion Tamer. They show the botched Frankensteiner again for some reason on replay. Tenay tried to sell it as Gedo blocking it, but Jericho was the one who crawled over and tried to get the cover after it happened. Hey, they can't all be winners, but no need to show it again!
In Jericho's book he says that Gedo was booked to come in and defeat him in a one-off match and Jericho went to someone (Terry Taylor? Bischoff? I forget whom) and wondered why he was being booked to lose to a guy who wasn't going to be staying in WCW and said booker agreed with him. So they changed the result to Jericho winning. He says that when he went up for the frankensteiner, Gedo (Whom Jericho was supposedly friendly with and had teamed with in WAR (?!)) inexplicably gave him a two-handed shove to the chest as he was performing the move which caused him to land on his head. Jericho (whose mother was paralyzed in an accident with her boyfriend) had an elevated fear of paralysis and leapt to his feet after the fall and continued the match but I think he made reference to feeling like he'd suffered an injury in the spot and probably shouldn't have. He doesn't mention talking to Gedo afterwards or any more clarification on what happened so, as an armchair, uh, wrestling guy, I have a feeling Gedo was told he was going over, then found out Jericho had talked them into changing the outcome and was maybe a wee bit annoyed with Jericho and gave him the shove, just as a dick-ish heel move not realizing it would lead to Jericho almost killing himself. I have no information to back that up, just making a guess.
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55 minutes ago, Niners Fan in CT said:
-Crowd HATES Atlantis Jr. and pops by association
What was the deal here?! Why does the crowd hate him so much? Did AEW know this? Seems weird to position him with a team of faces when the crowd detests him!
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So someone explain this Jinder Mahal-Masada drama like I'm twelve...and also explain who Masada is?!
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5 hours ago, Curt McGirt said:
Now I'm wondering if you've seen the Kill Bill films because this immediately reminded me of "My name is Buck and I like to fuck" -- after considering "somebody actually named somebody that in a movie?! And it wasn't Tarantino so they couldn't get away with it."
My friend watched a edited for TV 'Kill Bill' one time and he claims the dialogue was changed to "My name is Buck and I came to...PARTY", then after Uma escapes his clutches, she looks dismissively at his car that has been edited to read 'Partymobile' and spits "Partymobile!" and my friend said "What DOES this woman have against partying?!" (I never saw this, so I can't vouch for its veracity but it's one of my favourite stories of his aside from the time he said "Movies" into his remote control and a message came up on the screen saying "Will not comply with searches for terms like this "P*SSY" just as his wife walked in and he was going "I honestly did not say that!")
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Bizarre. Was so smooth when I posted a few hours ago and now back to the reload.
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FWIW the site was almost unusable last night (Every single thing I clicked had to be refreshed at least once, even if I was going forward a page in the same thread!).
But today it's faster than ever! Smooth sailing!
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13 hours ago, Dolfan in NYC said:
(Few lines hit harder than "...about a God we've never seen, but never fails to side with me.")
Enjoy the week!
I ADORE this song. I always loved the line "money to pay for all the days I lived awake but half asleep". Somehow I didn't really discover it until mid-2000-2005 when I saw it on a retro music video channel.
Great choice!
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2 hours ago, Curt McGirt said:
Thekla's introduction, besides the back-bend and camera stare, was pretty weak btw. It felt like they let her do that and then skipped right over it without a second word.
Probably my biggest AEW complaint: they jam so much stuff in each episode that they never let stuff breathe. A quick replay or something lets a segment breathe a little but instead it gets a little "Bang! A match! A debut! But we have to jump to an interview! Heel turn! No time we gotta talk about a tournament!"
Look, I'm not a big Adam Cole detractor/body-shamer...but I gotta admit, tonight when he came running out of nowhere and attacked Kyle Fletcher...I genuinely thought for a second that Marko Stunt had returned.
I would like to see a Best of 7 Ops-Frat House (One change needed, the Frat House should have a frat/wrestling name (Phi Beta Head Droppa but...you know...better) instead of the generic Frat House) where the Frat Guys keep trying different combinations to defeat the Ops and keep suffering worse and worse defeats and go 0 and 7. I could watch that every week.
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On 5/19/2025 at 1:59 PM, zendragon said:
I was just wondering what happened to him the other day when I was watching 'Beyond the Mat' and they showed him being held back after someone had spit on him and it made me remember seeing him in PWI where he was billed as La Migra Maxx Justice and feuding with Hispanic wrestlers.
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Also, the Cena heel run might not be making especially enjoyable matches, but the heat was absolutely nuclear last night. I love how they popped for his music, booed his entrance, cheered for R-Truth like he was 1980s Hulk Hogan, popped huge for Cena seeing the error of his way, booed when he cheated again. I don't know if the Cena "I'm going to ruin wrestling" really makes a lot of sense given his ties to The Rock and his being on the board of directors etc. etc. etc. but it has made for some unbelievable crowd reactions.
I wonder how long it goes on for because I think you HAVE to let Cena run out the last few weeks (months?) as a face for his and the fans' sake. If Cena doesn't see "the error of his ways" until his last appearance or whatever, I think it would be a failure of a run.
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Man Jesse Ventura on commentary was great in how uncomfortable it made Cole/McAfee. I miss the days when colour commentators went on unhinged tangents and things were just less corporate and over-produced. Ventura mocking Priest's exit while Cole and McAfee tried to explain it ("He's making a statement by walking out!" "Well if you're gonna do that at least go over the top!") and refusing to let it go when Cole and McAfee are desperately trying to move on was amazing.
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I kinda think you could debut Tony D in his current gimmick, somewhere very Italian-friendly (Chicago, given his billed city) and make a big deal of it (Maybe pay some guys to lose their shit in the crowd over him), give him a big win, have him throw his opponent in the trunk and drive away and if he's over enough there it can transfer to other cities where they react favourably to appear to be in on him the same way he was his first night.
Alternately, he would be a great heater (Even though he's not HUGE huge) for a cheating heel (Dom, for instance, if you wanna keep him heel!) and you can kind of build out his character from there.
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https://youtu.be/QXlqF7g-tjU?si=cwIUwUIWY2a2SgSu
How was I not aware, until today, that Goldust was once on Conan O'Brien, in character as a guest. It goes...it goes about as well as you'd think.-
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32 minutes ago, SirSmUgly said:
This whole WCW versus New Japan angle flopped both artistically and business-wise, didn’t it? Oh well, at least we get some interesting inter-promotional matchups at this show. This is the final WCW PPV that feels truly international, I think.
This show blew my mind as a teenager. I was vaguely aware of Japanese wrestling as a friend had taped that Superbrawl with Flair-Fujinami and had seen Great Muta once or twice, but I somehow had no concept that there were more than 1 or two Japanese wrestlers, never mind a whole federation including a guy with a sweet bodysuit and mask. I used to leave my TV on the PPV preview channel and look up and intently watch every time the Starrcade promo would come up (Had all the wrestlers standing in a row while Sonny delivered a motivational speech: "Liger? Fly high. Come down hard on WCW!" I can still remember that some...sigh....30 years later. But the new password I made LAST WEEK for my Apple account, completely gone!
Oh, I should add, blew my mind as a teenage before I actually saw the show. All I saw was the preview and I may have listened to it in squigglevision.
I finally tracked down a copy maybe 4-5 years later and gleefully purchased it and was STUNNED how matches with guys I had seen in good matches (Liger, Chono, Ohtani) and guys I had heard good things about (Kanemoto, Tenzan) wrestling actually good WCW wrestlers could be so stunningly BORING.37 minutes ago, SirSmUgly said:Onoo does some boilerplate sexism on the mic toward Kimberly; Kimberly responds with some boilerplate racism. Le *sigh*.
This is where she calls Onoo "Hop Sing", right? And the crowd is mild for it, everyone is mild for it, except Dusty Rhodes who flips out: "Hop Sing! She said Hop Sing!" [laughs uproariously].
42 minutes ago, SirSmUgly said:I dream of this match entering its finishing run.
This match was impossibly boring. Three great wrestlers in a poorly-structured mach should be able to overcome it and present something interesting but it is SO long and SO dull that it's one of the most disappointing things I've ever seen.
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On 5/14/2025 at 4:29 PM, Elsalvajeloco said:
ECW is gonna have a lot of these cause they were an unofficial feeder promotion throughout much of their existence. Hell, Ron Simmons had a very good run with ECW for a little while and that's one people don't really mention.
For what it is was, I would say Hakushi in WWF. He had the equivalent of a typical territory run: Got a solid push as a heel w/ a manager, had some decent to very good matches and only lost really to the stars, turned babyface out of the blue, and closed by doing the jobs he needed to do on the way out. He didn't overstay his welcome, and he fulfilled his duties as a guy in the middle of the card.
I watched a Hakushi-Sabu match the other day and, man, does his entrance lose a lot of his mystique without simple things like lighting and, oh yeah, music. Watching him walk to the ring, the same slow gait that he used in WWF and costume, but under glare-y gymnasium lights with no audio accompaniment was really jarring.
IIRC Bret Hart loved wrestling him, he said they had a really good match, then everyone after ate him up so when he got progammed against him again he decided to make him look good.
On 5/14/2025 at 6:34 PM, J.H. said:Didnt Super Calo and El Mosco de la Merced havr cup of coffee runs towards the end of ECW? I seem tobremember Ikuto Hidaka there as well
James
Hidaka was one of those guys, like Tajiri and Crazy actually, who got super over with the ECW crowd but it took them forever to get behind. He had good to great moments in ECW, but the only real thing they did with him was have Joel Gertner call him "Poky-mon" because he was Japanese and taking the US by storm.
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On 5/14/2025 at 7:24 PM, Casey said:
so Gabe Kidd is helping because he hates AEW, I guess? I dunno, I still have a bad taste in my mouth over him during Speaking Out, so whatever.
Wouldn't it be wild if Mariah May returned at the end of the Toni/Mina match? It's not going to happen, but it would be funny.
Considering the absolute hoops they dove through last night to discuss Mina and Toni's history without once mentioning Mariah May, I'd say it's highly unlikely ("Toni and Mina were involved in a sort-of love triangle" which if you were unfamiliar with their past, you'd wonder how they had a triangle with only two people!).
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3 hours ago, The Green Meanie said:
Are we going to see that weird red spider again and/or will it be explained?
So that WASN'T something I thought I might have imagined/hallucinated?!
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23 minutes ago, Swift said:
Just catching up on this thread... how the frick have there been 3 different "Duke"s mentioned on the last couple pages, all separate of each other?
Apparently Brock's other son is named "Turk" which is just amazing.
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http://bsky.app/profile/jonlanenhl.bsky.social/post/3loorazfecc2p
I have no idea how to make these things work but..
per johnlanenhl on blusky
"Duke Lesnar, a 14-year-old forward eligible for the 2029 NHL Draft, was selected by Medicine Hat (WHL) after he had 28 points (13 goals, 15 assists) in 30 games for Notre Dame in the CSSHL U15. His father is pro wrestler Brock Lesnar. His mother, Rena, was Sable in WWE in the late 1990s and 2003."
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1 hour ago, SirSmUgly said:
I'm generally aligned with you on this. Dusty/Dustin vs. Flair/Jarrett was the perfect way to use all those workers for that match in front of that crowd.
Maybe the Nitro book is the source that covers this, but it's on record that he and Ed Ferrara mainlined that stuff while writing shows for the WWF.
It definitely shows, what with groups like The Oddities and all. Not that I would bestow this task upon my greatest enemy, nor that it may even be feasible, but it would probably be interesting to see how many plotlines/dialogue were lifted directly from 'Jerry Springer'. Given the perceived (or deserved) low-brow nature of both outlets, I can't imagine either side would be terribly concerned with the lifting of content or willing (Able?) to pursue it in court.
You know, I should really read that Nitro book...
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AEW TV - 7/3 - 7/9/2025 - Keep On Dancing At The Pink Stokely Club
in ALL ELITE WRESTLING
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I actually think those two reuniting as singles partners wouldn't be the worst thing, haha. Realistically, neither has really fluorished without the other, though, admittedly, I enjoyed Max Caster's Open Challenge run.
Also, what sign was Tazz talking about where he said it replaced "Founding Fathers with Founding....and that wasn't very nice." It either got bleeped up here in Canada, or some background in-ring swearing got bleeped, I can't figure out which.
Lastly, I'd just like to point out how insane AEW programming has been in Canada. We got Dynamite right from the start on TSN (Think Canadian ESPN), TSN also got the rights to Rampage and later Collision but would only show them when the shows were in Canada, the only way you could watch them would be to subscribe to TSN+ (So even though you have TSN through whatever your cable package is, you'd have to pay again for it!). This past January, the big cable provider Roger's announced it was bringing the USA Network to Canada but it's a Canadian version of the USA Network (LOTS of 'Highway Through Hell'!). Now USA just paid big bucks to feature Smackdown, but all WWE programming in Canada is now the property of Netflix, so even though USA is the home of Smackdown, in Canada you can only watch it on Netflix. Even more bizarre is that as soon as USA Network premiered in Canada, it immediatey became the home for...AEW Collision, running live on Saturday Nights. So the home of Smackdown in the US, is the home of WWE's rival company in Canada. And, further adding to the weirdness, the Canadian USA Network also run some WWE content shows like 'WWE's Greatest Moments: Celebrities of the 80s' and 'WWE's Greatest Moments: WCW' on Thursday nights which means on certain occasions, such as next Thursday, 'AEW Collision' is followed up by the above two WWE shows and will likely even be pre-empted by AEW going over. It's the weirdest thing ever.