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i want to know if he'll hand out one last Jesse The Body Award
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I was in attendance for Superbrawl IX [Feb of 99], about a year and a half before where Smelly is in his Nitro rewatch, and with all the changes to WCW's landscape 1 year feels like 10. I don't think anything I saw that night had any bearing on June 2000.
Except Hogan wrestling Flair for the belt in the main. That's basically eternal. And I don't even remember who actually won that night.[Just that the ending schmozz was Torrie Wilson's in-the-flesh debut. So probably Hogan? BPP vs DDP stole the show (we got a Frankensteiner!) and Rey Jr. lost his mask (I can't imagine anyone really thought Miss Elizabeth was going to get her head shaved).]
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Which begs the question: WWF wasn't hurting for tag teams at this point, does anyone know why they put the Colossal Connection together to beat Demolition but just for a couple months? Was it just to give Andre a gold watch?
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The Colossal Connection, because even by the loose standards of pro wrestling promotion, you could not get away with calling a team with end-of-career Andre an "Express"
But yeah, at the minimum Andre should be able to no-sell/shrug off a pin breakup attempt. This should probably be a staple of fat guy tag partners. Even if you knock him out with a top rope forearm, you still gotta move him, and now his dead weight should make that even harder.-
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If a Black Friday game is on Amazon and nobody’s Mark enough to pay to stream it, does it still air?
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21 minutes ago, NikoBaltimore said:
Those ideas sound lovely for WM9. I just wanted to add that while WM9 isn't as bad as others make it out to be if one still feels that way they should watch Survivor Series '93. Goodness me that was putrid.
a show so bad it made Hennig remember how badly his back was hurt and no-showed.
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[dark: Marty & Nastys vs Skinner & Beverlys. Plug in Virgil if Marty Martys too much to make it to the show]
Headshrinkers vs Tito & BacklundTatanka vs HBK stays too (I'd probably do a title change too, see what Tatanka's got, if he bombs as champ HBK can always win it back, he'd be a fine First Loss)
keep Crush vs Doink but reverse the result (however far he might otherwise have gotten, losing his first feature feud killed him as a face)
Razor vs Owen
Steiners vs Money Inc (definite title switch: Ted is running on fumes at this point)
Martel vs Kamala [time permitting, popcorn/intermission match]
Luger vs Perfect stays as is
Undertaker vs Bam Bam is the same story they were doing with Gonzales, but with a much better/worthier wrestler.
Yoko vs Earthquake [squash, needed cooler between Taker and the main]
after two title switches in the undercard to establish a pattern, break the pattern with a Bret successful defense against Savage.
[Hogan, if still returning, is hopefully amenable to being guest ref for the main and endorsing Bret/torch passing without asking him to lose a match]-
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that's way too many tournaments, and I like tournaments
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switch it up to "Moldovan Necktie", problem solved.
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I mean, Dustin's right about it being poor taste.
But on the other hand, Pro Wrestling? Poor Taste? Bit late to object to that.
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Russo was also genuinely trying to give us new faces on top, without it simply being putting his [wwf] hands over all the homegrown talent.
the strategy was right. It was his tactics that so often failed.
what’s the old saying in sports? If he’s your fifth best player you have a good team, if he’s your best player you have a bad team? That’s Russo in the writing room.
Aiming for Memphis style with a broken scope feels very apt. I’ve often said ECW had a lot of Memphis under the hood, and Russo’s share of Attitude Era crash TV is co-opting that ECW feel
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I think there’s something there in a heel climbing back down from the buckle and shouting “you gotta buy the pay per view to see that” and doing something more basic instead
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22 hours ago, SirSmUgly said:
- Mike Tenay is on backstage duty; he curses us with another boring, boilerplate Horace Hogan promo/interview. Horace outside of the Flock is a classic replacement-level wrestler.
Look, there are two potential Hogans that can turn up on any given show from this era, and of those two I'd much rather it be this one. Any time WCW put out a show with Horace and without Hulk should be commended
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Jarrett put Booker T over.
JJ > HHH
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as for Lawler, he was good in the booth in 93 when he put in the effort into being a properly antagonist heel broadcaster but by the time of the Attitude Era he was clearly phoning it in and had descended into sad self-parody (especially with the racism and the perving). Any stretch where he was replaced was addition by subtraction, to the point that I was almost kinda happy ECW went out of business because Paul Heyman slid into the evil color analyst role like an entire gale of fresh air, never mind a breath.
In ring he was at best a complete waste of Bret's time, and the farthest possible cry from his run as the face of Memphis.-
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2 hours ago, Firebreaker Chip said:
Is Bill Watterson Bret Hart?
Did a notable body of seminal work entirely in the 80s and 90s that stands the test of time, always cared more about the art than the trappings around it, knew how to make you ~feel it, refused to compromise on their outspoken creative principles to their own detriment (syndication and merchandising vs putting that rat bastard Shawn over in Montreal), both have a victory over Jean Pierre LaFitte on PPV
It falls down where Watterson gracefully disappeared into obscurity, whereas Bret will still be accidentally reigniting his feud with Goldberg after he's dead
Bill Watterson is Rick Martel for leaving the business on his own terms and never coming back or resorting to a “legends” contract (merchandising)
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"Cowboy Shit" is an AEW-original chant. The beer thing happened organically. AEW's first long-form story was Page's odyssey to the championship. Hangman is their first homegrown champion. As close to a Sting as they're going to have (yes, I know actual Sting was there for a while, you know what I mean). This can be the first half of his Crow phase [Achilles sulking in his tent], if they want.
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well, that was about as bad and unwatchable as I expected it to be, given the injuries. [Oh, and The Packers are actually pretty good, too]
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3 minutes ago, RIPPA said:
That is one of the weirdest fucking games I’ve ever watched
I got real curious about what the over/under was real quickly there
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CD Lamb officially the hardest hitter on Dallas' roster. Unfortunately he's the starting WR
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I will always pop for Christian Cage.
I think Darby actually turning up in the ring as part of the ending schmozz (so the live audience can see him and cheer him to close out the show) rather than only turning up backstage in front of a remote camera would have been a better route. But maybe I'm just over Vehicular Assault In Wrestling at this point (Smelly's Nitro Retrospective Thread is bringing back a ton of memories, and not all pleasant).-
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Niners drafting Lance can now only be in "worst" territory if Dallas starts playing him and he spontaneously turns into Roger Staubach (fat chance).
Smelly watches every Nitro-era Nitro, Thunder, Clash, and PPV while sitting and sometimes maybe standing
in WWE PROGRAMMING
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I was weary of DDP at the time (blame contemporary internet wrestling nerd groupthink) so I absolutely ate up the Positively Kanyon schtick. But even within that, this was solid gold from Jarrett. Like Double J bringing the slightest sliver of Lance Russel to WCW TV.