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21 minutes ago, HarryArchieGus said:
I'd love to know the logic behind Eddie Kingston wearing 'burnt make-up' one week and having a clean and clear face the next. It's strange that a guy like Kingston who puts such great detail into his selling would be so careless.
I think the logic here is that the damage was minimal. It wasn't like a third degree burn that's going to scar him for life. It was superficial. He missed two weeks of TV. Showed up on week 3 with what amounted to a healing scab from a minor burn. By week 4 the burn had healed. Not every injury has to do career long damage is the thought process here I'm thinking. Could be wrong of course, but that's how I took it story-wise.
Logistics wise, yeah having a "burn" rub off during a match is a bad look. And it's just not that important to the story that it be a long term injury. If he tried to have half his face taped up and the tape came off with nothing underneath that would also be a baddddd look.
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1 hour ago, Blue Dragon said:
I've noticed over the last few years WWE further reduced the working of restholds, reduces or kills off the boring chants those holds got even if they were done right in the past. They did fire all the older producers who insisted on that working restholds stuff.
Wondering if you're intentionally being offensive here or just not understanding how physically taxing wrestling can be?
Less restholds in matches is probably best summed up by saying the athletes today are much better conditioned than the athletes of previous generations. A "rest hold" is a hold you grab when you're blown up and need to slow down and catch your breath. Not a boring segment thrown in because an old timer was saying slow down you're going too fast. You only use a rest hold because you need a rest and can't safely keep going at the pace you're going...
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3 hours ago, Craig H said:
It's post-BB. Don't forget, last season when Jimmy has his panic attack, what brings that on are a couple kids in the mall recognizing "Gene" as Saul Goodman. Plus, Jimmy has a box of VHS tapes from when he was Saul.
You mean the taxi driver in his 50s and his buddy? LOL
21 minutes ago, southofheavy said:They got vacuumed at roughly around the same time. I can't remember exactly how long Walt was in New Hampshire, but it was long enough that the family house had fallen into disrepair. It is entirely possible that Gene time happens while Walt is still alive.
If I remember correctly, believe it's about 6-8 months between the time Walt gets relocated and he returns to free Jesse. They mention it in passing on a TV news report in El Camino's opening sequence. Makes sense time wise. Jesse's hair had grown long. Skyler is in the middle of the legal battle.
I don't think they have established how long Saul has been Gene at any point in those flash forwards. He makes contact with Ed The Vacuum Repair man. But that could be after Jesse has already been relocated as well, making it post El Camino in the time line. -
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Yeah disregard what that writer tweeted out. Itssa Swerrwwwveee Broooooh.
Hell of an ending. And some great story telling too. Jimmy & Kim will be riddled with guilt since he would have never been there without the shenanigans. Very Breaking Bad like. They can't report the dead body either. So when the show comes back they're going to have to dispose of the body and not tell anyone making it 100x worse.
Love the Breaking Bad-verse so so much.-
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Mid-sesason finale tonight. I saw a post from one of the writers trying to temper expectations because it was originally written as a 13 episode season with no break. So there may not be a very heavy handed cliffhanger tonight with that in mind.
He could also be a Russo and just trying to swerve bro. Guess we'll see.-
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More worrisome than the upfronts non-story is that the new head of programming is all about slashing the budget. So in context 6 months ago AEW may have been banking on a rights fee increase due to over performance. But now they might only get an offer of keeping the current rate. While they perform well above what the deal pays, if slashing the budget is the name of the game it's very unlikely even a well performing show will get MORE money in that market.
So even if Discovery is content or happy with them, they still might be shopping the shows around come negotiation time. From how Meltzer reports on it, AEW is needing a rights fee increase to keep growing. Just agreeing to the same deal again for a new term would stagnate them.
That's way more likely than Discovery being outrigt unhappy and wanting to openly dump them.-
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2 minutes ago, SirSmellingtonofCascadia said:
I don't think that AEW is any good as a product
Everyone is entitled to their opinions, even when their opinions are wrong lol
3 minutes ago, SirSmellingtonofCascadia said:I wonder if the company still has post-merger support at its network
Time will tell on this one, but I believe it to be an overblown talking point. AEW was displayed in the premium package for the cream of the crop to advertisers. So even tho they didn't go out of their way to hype AEW up as a big part of the future they also didn't no sell them. They were shown alongside The NBA, The NHL, & the top Food Network cooking shows under the Discovery umbrella. Hardly a snub.
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Since she can't be "The Legit Boss" anymore, should go with something like "The Top Draw" and do a take on the Hollywood Rock character. Like still be her but mix in all that movie star I'm above this company stuff. Would be a good fit for a heel persona that's somewhat close to what she already did, but with enough of a new coat of paint to not be a direct ripoff / still feel fresh.
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In the vein of Malachi Black & CSRO, she could probably get away with Tosha Banx if she wanted to...
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27 minutes ago, Niners Fan in CT said:
They should be able to challenge it, if true. You can't suspend someone without pay forever. Unless they want to suspend them with pay which sounds like a good deal. Plenty of concerts this Summer.
I don't think it's without pay. The only way they can freeze the amount of time passing on a contract (which is what they mean when they say freeze it), is if they're still paying the wrestler their downside guarantee. So they would get paid whatever their base salary is. But if say Sasha had 5 months left on her deal when she walked out, in 5 months she'll still have 5 months left assuming she doesn't come back. She'll be at 5 months indefinitely until they "unfreeze" it. I know they used the word suspended. But I don't think they can suspend her without pay AND freeze her contract. It's gotta be one or the other.
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1 hour ago, hammerva said:
Yeah It is hard for Punk to support your fellow man whether you believe in it or not when you have ghosted your best friend for close to a decade based on what happened with Punk leaving the WWE
He didn't just wake up one day and say fuck my best friend. There are mitigating circumstances here and money issues and promises that may have been made / lied about. We don't know all the details. For all we know Colt could have done something shitty in this situation that hasn't gotten out to the public. Not really fair to use interpersonal dynamics of a friendship we don't know all the details of to damn one side.
16 minutes ago, TheVileOne said:Where would standing up to WWE at that point would've gotten Rusev and Lana? At the very least, Rusev was able to get a body of work and managed to get over with the fans, so he could have something going on when he left.
He did manage to get over with the fans. Big time actually with that Rusev Day stuff. Did that matter? He was slotted where he was slotted by the office. No amount of being a good soldier and getting over and delivering his best could change that. It's been proven that McMahon respects the people that stand up to him more than the people who just go with the flow. Not saying walking out back then would have made him a mega star. But keeping quiet sure didn't either.
I personally respect the guys & girls more who will put their foot down and have some integrity and say I don't think this is very good, we should be doing better. And I think the positioning and power the wrestlers would be able to wield would be better off if they rallied behind each other in circumstances like this. Not expecting others to walk over it. Just showing support online. Posting about not agreeing with WWE being petty. Putting it out there that it's not right. You don't have to quit. But staying silent doesn't help anyone. It just hurts yourself when and if they decide to treat you like that.-
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Bucks and Hardys I'll grant you has history to rely on. The TBS Title match has zero story. JAS vs Eddie and Santant & Ortiz has a strong build. But BCC being involved has all of what 2 TV segments? HOB v Death Triangle have had what 1 interaction on TV since the last PPV? (Fenix's return). Well I guess they ran off HOB in that Julia Hart segment too. So 2 TV segments. But that's not much story that's been developed. The Owens are tournaments and don't need much story. But sooooo much of the TV has been built around getting to those two matches. Like 3-4 matches a show for the last month.
Guess it's just me being too literal in wanting things officially announced and a refined & deliberate push to advertise everything to make everything feel special. What actually feels special for this show to you? In my opinion the only things with a special feel are Wardlow vs MJF and the two Owen matches. But again that's just an opinion.-
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Strongly disagree again.
It's irrelevant how easy the events are to order. How are PPVs more special than an episode of Dynamite when the matches don't have a story behind them? What gives a viewer (beyond the hardcore instant buyers like us) the incentive to pay for a PPV vs just waiting and watching the TV for free if it's all the same? If you're just throwing out matches the week of the event then why are there only 4 PPVs? TK's been very public about the purpose behind having only 4 PPVs. To have time to tell longer stories and have proper build like they used to. It's a counter to the WWE style of throwing matches out within the week of a PPV.
I do understand your point. The event is sold out. It's hard to criticize that in the current moment. But that's not going to last forever. And the downturn will come quicker than they expect if they let their foot off the gas and mail it in like this. WCW 1998 was selling out everywhere based off of 1997's hard work. But 1999 WCW tanked based off of 1998 WCW starting to mail it in. And 2000 was irredeemable based off of 1999 WCW. If you don't learn from history you're doomed to repeat it.-
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2 hours ago, christopher.annino said:
They don't need to announce 75% of the matches ahead of time.
Strongly disagree. One of the big selling points of fewer PPVs is more time to tell stories properly. To make things feel important and special. And to make everything feel important and special, not just the main events.
Just because the matches will most likely be very good regardless, does not mean we should give them a free pass for not trying. AEW has shown to be very good at long form story telling and paying off stories. Give me more Hangman v Omega. Give me more MJF v Punk. Give me more MJF v Wardlow. These long stories with the matches set up with plenty of time to get advertised and feel important by the time the PPV hits.
For DON there was a good three weeks where only one match had been announced. I'm not sure if it's because of The Owen Tournament pacing or what. But they did a full on WWE build this time. Oh shit the PPV is two weeks away. Guess we gotta start booking matches for it. Just because the matches will be good, doesn't mean we should let it slide that the effort isn't there this time.-
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Who really knows at this point. They might throw one on there last minute. Speaking of, not digging how many matches are getting announced so close to the PPV. They normally have things setup a little sooner. Like MJF vs Wardlow has had the proper build for sure. HOB vs DT getting tossed on last night seems haphazard. As does Bucks vs Hardys getting announced only a week out. And the TBS Title match out of blue for Anna Jay with zero TV matches since what that hardcore women's street fight? Hell the Women's Owen Finals won't be set until two days before the PPV.
Not sure why the timing on this one seems so thrown together. I'm still expecting a good show. But wasn't the point of fewer PPVs to really announce in advance and advertise and give everything that old school important feel? That isn't happening here.-
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2 hours ago, Jiji said:
I didn't say anything about him in relation to anybody like that. That's a strawman if you're arguing my point. Why is the Coldhearted Handsome Devil© working out with some nerd in face paint and a cape? He gave him chips?
Why can't he just be cool and break people's necks instead of protecting the shittiest character in the company? I don't care that Danhausen is over (and how long with that last?). What happened with HOOK and Team Taz? He doesn't have to be Goldberg nor does he need to be a pillar. He's HOOK. They've gone too quickly into the babyface stuff with him. It took Austin and Rock years to soften their characters to even tolerate Mankind, and Danhausen is no Mankind. This just feels cheap to me and I love HOOK and deplore Danhausen. HOOK should be a good two years away from doing anything with anybody like Wardlow or any other main event calibre wrestler. I've argued against people talking up the TNT title for HOOK and that it was ridiculous to expect a guy with a handful of matches to fill that role so early. He needs to be handled with care and caution but this isn't what I had in mind and really hope it's short-term.
Honestly I can't argue much of what you wrote here. I don't dislike Danhausen as much as you do tho. I like him a lot actually. I get what you're saying about why is he working out with Danhausen. But I just interpret that differently. In that vignette Hook is working out. He's going workout regardless because that's what Hook does. Danhausen admires him and tagged along and couldn't keep up. It's not like Hook was helping him Hogan & Mean Gene style in tiny shorts lol.
I guess I just interpret it that he's not Danhausen's friend so much as he's just doing his thing and Danhausen is following him around and idolizing him because the curse didn't work on him. To me Hook isn't a babyface. He's just Hook. And he happens to be teaming with a face and fighting heels. But he still comes out of the heel tunnel. He hasn't changed any of his behavior. He didn't accept the gift of chips. He walked out on that. He's just a tweener doing his thing with a tag along.-
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13 minutes ago, Matt D said:
I haven't revisited this stuff in a long time, but I remember finding ECW era Shelton to be frustratingly spotty and "getting-his-shit-in". I can't speak to any other point of his career but he was probably my least favorite guy on the roster for a while around 09.
I think your memory from that period is on point. By that point he had been used and abused by the office. He got over multiple times based purely on his work. By the time he was in ECW he was done trying to be a complete package and just went into coasting on spots.
WGTT would have been tag team GOATs if they came up in the 80s. Imagine peak WGTT vs peak Steiners or Midnights or Rock n Rolls.-
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I can't help but think there is some real unrealistic views of Hook's place in the pecking order going on in this thread lol. There is something real and tangible with him, he is over and has a major value to the future. But he isn't even at the "pillar" level yet. Like he's clearly behind MJF, Jungleboy, Darby & Sammy in the pecking order. Being mad that he is with Danhausen and that it is ruining his aura is a bit of an overreach.
Danhausen is very over. Hook is very over. Them together squashing low card dudes is going to be over. Hook isn't doing comedy spots. He's not doing the row boat spot or biting people's asses like Dink. He's still Hook doing Hook shit. He just has Danhausen standing there in the background now. To me (on a smaller level) they have that Rock & Sock thing going on. Two over acts on their own, that just have a fun chemistry together. Maybe a better analogy is Team Hell No.
But by no means is this ruining Hook. Its giving him some meaningful stories to get his feet wet and learn and grow, without putting all of the weight on his shoulders. He just has to show up and keep wrecking dudes. Danhausen can carry the verbal stuff and Sterling / Neese are never going to be cool heels that get cheered over anyone. So this is good for his development. Outside of going full Goldberg with him, this is the best possible scenario to groom him for the future. And you can't go full Goldberg with him because of his look. You think we hear a lot of whining about Cole & The Bucks being tiny... imagine if Hook is out there no selling for Wardlow.
This is good for Hook.-
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As Dolfan said the networks are big on keeping the brand extension a thing. But you could still merge all the needless titles and have champions work both brands. They can still have exclusive rosters. But just let the only world champion appear on both shows. Let the only men's tag champs appear on both shows. Merge the women's titles and do the same. The women's tags are already dual branded. You can keep the IC & US the show exclusive titles if you want. But with how they have paired down the roster there is no need for multiple men's tag champs or multiple world champs or multiple women's champs.
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3 hours ago, Matt D said:
Why buy replica belts when you can have trophies like this in your home?
Fuck putting that in my house I want that on the hood of my car
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30 minutes ago, Zimbra said:
Why would you make belts for a tournament when you could make a big trophy that can get broken over someone's head?
Replica belt sales. Those merch sales for replicas are insane. I'm sure portions of which go to The Owen Hart Foundation as well which is good. Not much money in the replica trophy business from what I hear lol.
Although for this specific instance I would have went with as close legally as I could get to a Slammy-like handheld trophy. Just feels right for an Owen Hart prize.-
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Very surprised @John from Cincinnati didn't pontificate about how she is graciously stepping away to make room for the new Chief Brandi Officer of WWE lol.
Her taking time away could be just that, a little break. But this feels more significant to me. Time will tell. But Linda's been gone for awhile now. Shane is gone again. Triple H was gone for a bit (and is back but in a very limited capacity), & now Stephanie? Vince is the only day to day McMahon and he's almost 80?
They really are getting ready to sell aren't they? All of the McMahons will get billion dollar payouts via stock buyouts. Someone's gonna get the company with Vince running it until the day he dies. And then Nick Khan taking over.
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55 minutes ago, L_W_P said:
They'll sign him and then start jobbing him out to the newest NXT guy on the roster.
Love most of what AEW does but they need to stop signing everyone Vince let's go. It's getting to TNA levels of "We know who that is!"
WWE had over 300 people under contract. What percentage of the business as a whole do you think that was? What percentage of people good at this does that account for? I understand your greater point but this isn't 2006 anymore. Signing 10 people (out of 15) that have been let go in a year is not the same as signing 10 people (out of 80) that have been let go in a year. This isn't TNA.
I don't care what hangups people have on Cole or ORiley or Swerve or Keith Lee. All of them are fucking good at their job. Having them on your roster is a good thing not a strike against you. Where was this discourse in the 90s when WWE started pushing WCW jobbers? No one gave a shit that STEVE AUSTIN, CACTUS JACK, MEAN MARK, & JEAN PAUL LEVESQUE came in and were beating WWE guys. Just as it shouldn't be now. That's how the business works. You learn and grow and move on. Even back to the territory days. Dolph Ziggler being the same dude for 20 years taking up space is not a good thing. Movement and always improving your roster and change is good thing.
I mean no offense to you personally. But this is a very dumb talking point.-
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59 minutes ago, Log said:
For what it's worth, local tv news contracts for on-air talent are basically the same as WWE's contracts (but for TONS less money). Definitely NOT saying that makes them ok, but just pointing out that it's not something exclusive to pro wrestling.
According to Google local TV News people are members of SAG-AFTRA. Which means they have a union and collective bargaining at least. So unless Google failed me here, while their contracts may be similar... they still have way more rights and benefits than pro wrestlers.
To your point, they may be able to be cut whenever and have no compete clauses like wrestlers, but they are still in a way better position than pro wrestlers are WRT benefits & financials.-
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RING OF HONOR in 2022... in AEW
in ALL ELITE WRESTLING
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Impossible to do. If you're not first you're last. The great Ricky Bobby can't be wrong.
In all seriousness there's no way they can be actual equals that stand side by side. One is going to have better TV distribution or a better roster or better buy rates. You can try and make them seem like equals. But the fans are going to be able to tell which one is the A brand and which one is the B brand, even if they don't position it that way from a marketing stand point.