NoFistsJustFlips
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I love AEW but man why does every single decision they make about titles make me cringe? All-Atlantic was a dumb name. Then they changed it International and that was a pretty good name. Then changed it again for story reasons to The American Title. Then back. Now merging it with this. The Continental Title was originally one of three for a triple crown. 3 months into that they go nah dawg split them. It's a belt for a tournament that happens once a year and seems redundant and out of place anyways.
Now I think The Unified Title design is fucking dope. It's miles and miles better than the Continental and International designs. But fuck man, what is with that name? Ya know if they were doing a brand split and The World Title was on one show and The Unified Title was on the other show, I'd be okay with it. But if everything is staying all one brand it's gotta be one of the most confusing and illogical names in awhile. And especially the talking point that it's equal to The World Title now or whatever. It's just so muddy. You can't have two first place trophies for first and second place. That's just not how it works. Imagine The Olympics just saying hey everyone silvers are equal to golds now.
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It feels like the booking is building towards the same finish as Cody beating Reigns. Escalation of run ins with the babyfaces finally having Hangman's back and legends pitching in to rid the company of the big heel group.
Ospreay's been leading the charge. He's out first to counter Yuta interference. Surprise return of Pac. Surprise return of Darby. The Bucks out. Surprise Sting run in. Claudio out. Eddie Kingston surprise return. Gab Kidd out. Swerve out. Stare down with Hangman. Go win this shit back for AEW. Big nod. Swerve moves Hangman out of the way and takes the bullet for him (Mox chairshot or some shit). Mox grabs the briefcase and backs to the corner ready to swing, there's Bryan Danielson up on the apron and takes the briefcase away and cracks Mox. Hangman does the big babyface look around sell as Danielson points to Mox. Ref up. Buckshot Lariat. New champ.
Literal climax for the entire audience and everyone watching from home. Locker room is out to celebrate the big win.-
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Thoughts on how TK is handling all the counter programming? Im not sure which tact is the right one to use. But clearly WWE is putting the pressure on. Objectively a smart business move to try and run the ECW arena the week before AEW does 7 straight shows there. Philly is a strong market so Im not sure it'll hurt as bad as the weaker markets would. But even if its a smart business move its still a dick move.
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I'm expecting to be ridiculed over this take, but I'm gonna drop it anyways. I couldn't pay attention to the main event because of their decision to do weird mood lighting for it. It just took me out of the match. Why did they not bring all the lights back up after the main event intros? You're a billion dollar company. You have some of the best production of any pro sports. Why would you reduce one of the biggest matches of the year to 'less than' by not giving them 100% of your production capabilities?
Any and all mood lighting in wrestling is dumb. Kane's red light. Sin Cara's orange light. When TNA did their ECW tribute and purposely made it all dark and moody. All of that sucked and takes away from the match, not adds to it. Even the videos they're sharing on social, they look bad compared to every other match on the same show. In much the same way I couldn't concentrate on a bunch of All In matches because of the stupid streamers stuck in the video board above the ring, I assume this is a me thing and no one else cares.
But it sucks because Hangman vs Ospreay was the match I was looking forward to the most. And almost none of it even registered for me. -
The money & rub is in him losing the title in his last match. Someone "saving" the title. Saving the title in October or November doesn't thematically work. It literally has to be a last minute thing. Bottom of the ninth. Last possible second before the big bad heel leaves forever and ruins the record books or whatever. And because of that I'm of the opinion if they get cold feet and back out on that plan, him losing the title before his last match makes this a failure of a run. The money, the catharsis, the pop is in that win in his retirement match.
He doesn't need a month of gee shucks love me love me before he retires. He can still come back & do appearances and tell stories of that nature without matches involved. All that rehab can be done afterwards. He needs to be heel and champion right up to that Saturday Night's Main Event in Boston in December. Cody slays the dragon. Huge celebration. Cody leaves with 10 minutes of TV time left. Cena gets a ridiculous thank you Cena showing of love from the crowd. Maybe even they do the Ric Flair all the wrestlers around the ring thing and let him baby himself in a promo right then and there.
But either way, him losing the title before that moment makes the entire heel turn a failure. In my opinion.-
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I think youre missing the narrative purpose of that scene. Joel's father wanted better for him. Joel wanted better for Ellie. It forshadows the choice Ellie makes at the end of TLOU2 to let Abby go and do a little better for JJ. It supposed to make the viewer think, hmmm is this revenge tour even what Joel would have wanted for Ellie? Is what she's doing right? By extension that means what Abby did was right because she's just did what Ellie us doing.
Projecting our own traumas is something we all do. So no judgement from me on that post. But I don't think youre analyzing it from a clear headed pov.
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If Darby doesn't return by repelling out of a helicopter at All In like Sting did at that one Nitro then what are we even doing here? Not to cost Mox tho, only to counter act Deathrider interference.
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Im glad The Lions rescinded their seeding proposal. Divisional rivalries are so ingrained into football. Taking away the home game for winning your division is dumb. I dont care if other people have a better record, the division games need to matter.
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That's actually good tho isnt it? It means they're taking their time and not surpassing the source material. I think we're all assuming there will be a TLOU 3 game. By 2029 I would think it'd be out and season 4 or 5 of the show can pick up where the third game does.
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Looks like no Triller for The US. Not up as of now and Meltzer made a Tweet about PPV.com Amazon or YouTube.
Not the biggest deal on the world. But Triller let you import your B/R Live purchases when that went down so slightly annoying to not have everything in one place. With HBO Max getting all the PPVs up eventually that wont really be an issue too much longer to not have your back log.
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12 hours ago, Peck said:
Just when I think society can't get any lower, someone tries to kiss Saraya on the mouth at an autograph signing.
At least we get to see what Paintbynumbers looks like now
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On 5/16/2025 at 10:42 PM, username said:
Hooters is in massive debt so this may just be an attempt to grab some cash before it all falls apart anyways.
To put it in easy terms let's pretend Hooters is WCW and this is January of 2001. If you just buy the IP you don't have to buy the equipment or the debt or existing contracts. You just get the name WCW & all the other names owned by WCW. They're going to go out of business by March 2001. You're just trying to buy the easy to monetize part without assuming the business aspects that aren't working.
It's a pretty good business play if it works. You can franchise out new restaurants with that name and logo, or as has been mentioned already license it out for condiments and shirts and whatever other retail items. But the company may prefer to not take a short term cash influx to lose all that stuff and just let it go down with the ship (more like ECW in 2001). In which case once they go bankrupt they could try and buy the IP out of the bankruptcy sale like WWE did with ECW. But that would be up to a judge's discretion at that point. And they'd probably end up paying more vs buying it now before the ship has sank.-
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Kingston's was specifically one I had in mind as supporting evidence. Lucha Bros AEW music was better than either of thier WWE musics. Willow's music is perfect for her. I know they're carried over from New Japan, but Osprey & Jay White's music are great. Hayter. Julia Hart. Lots of really well done stuff.
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Speaking of her music, that brings a topic to mind that might enter hot take territory. AEW's in house music smokes WWE's. Mikey Ruckus is this generation's Jim Johnston. And it's not even close. Rational opinion, or crazy hot take?
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Hayter's current music is a banger dont you dare take that away from her lol
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Man this might just be a me thing but it drives me nuts when you stick really big stars in the mid card and part mid card titles on them. Like a Ric Flair IC Title run in 2006? It just feels wrong.
mercedes being The TBS gatekeeper doesnt really make sense to me. The TBS Title will never be more. mportant than the World Title. So why in kayfabe would she be okay just chilling with a secondary title?
She's arguably the biggest star they have in the Women's Division. Put her on top. No promotion ever has sparked a boom period because their mid card titles are on their biggest stars. It always fizzles out if they don't get moved up.
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I dont have an issue with Hayter changing up her look and going with something she feels is more authentic to her. I just hope she understands picking something weird that doesn't resonate with the audience its hard to overcome. Like you rarely capture lightning in a bottle twice. She was over af and the crowd loved what she had been doing. Changing it was a risk. And one that seemingly isnt paying off.
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My prediction for next week, The Hurt Syndicate say wait a second we said you needed a thumbs up from everyone in the group and you didn't get a thumbs up from everyone yet. Cedric Alexander's music hits, walks out onto the stage and does a thumbs down. Then they beat the absolute dog shit out of MJF.
Which is leading is to... not totally sure. Hammerstone & Holiday showing up to redo their MLW group with MJF? Adam Cole accepting him back? MJF buying the services of two random monsters?
Not sure where the end destination is. But I'd be surprised if we didn't get something similar to what I predicted for the next step at least.
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20 hours ago, Just Adam Bay Bay said:
I’m posting this because Niners Fan asked me in the WWE thread why Jamie Hayter should win at Double or Nothing. And while I’m not sure we can have a good discussion about it here’s my reasons why:
Jamie hasn’t had a definitive win since coming back not even in the tournament so far. So to re-establish her as a dominant force beating Mercedes is a great choice.
Mercedes doesn’t defend the belt she already has on TV rarely ever so why put her in a match to win another one?
Mercedes despite Becky Lynch drawing Hogan comparisons is the female Hogan of her time. She makes boo boo face when she has to job, or like last week flat out doesn’t job to lose a title.
If Hayter doesn’t win what’s she doing at All In? Mercedes already has a match with Athena that would require zero buildup and people would want to see it again.
Jamie is on tv weekly (or close enough) putting on quality performances and not relying on piped in crowd noise to make herself seem over.
Jamie hasn’t ever got a rematch after losing the belt to Toni Storm so that also would draw fan interest.
This take is looney tunes. Mercedes is nowhere near a Hogan level politician. She also isnt her own booker. It's TK putting her over everyone. Gotta stop blaming the performers when they're booked strong like it's their own personal preference. If TK wanted her to llse she'd be losing (or off TV forever like Miro).
Secondly, Hayter ruined her aura. Original run Hayter that was with Britt was supper over and having bangers and earned that Women's Title run. Now tho whoever this Scooby Doo lady is, it isnt it. She's still putting on excellent matches but her presentation is garbage. Its also a big clue of how TK views her that her big return after a year away on a huge show in her home country happened on the pre show.
Hayter vs Toni would be a really good match. AEW has really good matches all the time. What they don't have often are big marquee matches that people haven't seen yet. Toni & Hayter has happened. Mercedes has never worked Toni in AEW or worked with the Timeless character at all.
I think Mercedes vs Toni is the way to go.
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35 minutes ago, twiztor said:
then don't put Hogan in that role? He was an attraction at that stage. WWE's biggest name, sure. He hadn't been a full time performer for a year. Put him 2nd from the top and have him beat a monster. Have Yoko convincingly win over a top face. It doesn't really make any difference anyway. These were non-televised, so only the live audience saw it. I wonder if WWE taped any of these shows?
The whole Hogan win at WM9 and loses back to Yoko at KOTR93 was done specifically as a way to heat up the European house shows that weren't selling well. You could run Yoko vs Bret second to last and Hogan beating Giant Gonzales on top if you want. But that doesn't help move the ticket sales without a heated up personal issue driving business.
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4 minutes ago, Technico Support said:
Hogan still gets announced as the winner, probably whips up on Yoko & Fuji, runs them off, and then poses. Everyone goes home happy. We weren’t far removed enough from Hogan’s heyday for that to not work.
Right. Doing the DQ win that they did is fine. He was saying Hogan should have been putting Yoko over. Or at least thats how I read the "put a guy over once... then beat him for months" thing. And that just doesn't work for a 90s house show. Especially an international one. Hogan losing a pinfall to Yoko does no good for anyone on an untelevised show. Just hurts the house next time around because fans left unhappy.
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Speaking of Hogan, wonder how much he's getting paid to be the face of RAF. It's gonna die a spectacular death and Im sure that Izzy guy is gonna lose his ass.
Amateur wrestling sells out stadiums for big college shows. But without the college tie in and friends and family of school age kids, no one is gonna pay to go watch that stuff. It's gonna be like the WBF. They're gonna pizzaz it up with spectacle and turn off the people that enjoy it. And the people they're trying to draw are already satisfied with MMA & Boxing.
I bet they get a mid level deal with ESPN+ or somewhere similar for streaming rights. But that's not gonna be enough.
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Why would you end your European shows in that era with a heel beating a mega face and sending everyone home angry? Even if Hogan has no stroke they're not booking Yoko pinning Hogan clean in every town in Europe for the only shows they got for the whole year. Just doesn't make any business sense.
Like Hogan is an absolute garbage person. And handled business in a very slime way but surely even so you know Hogan wasn't the booker. He wasn't showing up to towns and forcing Vince to change the finishes. Dude does enough real like shit bag stuff, no need to attribute things he wasn't controlling to him.
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I hope not. I dont see how these mini residencies are any different than TNA taping at the Impact Zone or NXT in front of the same audience. Not quite as bad because its just 3 or 4 weeks at a time vs all year.
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I dont think its a rights issue, I just don't think they want to copy WWE. When MJF renamed the International belt he used American Champion to avoid being United States Champion probably for the same reason.
There was a Triple Crown for 3 months. Thats about the same amount of time I give the Unified Title. Unless they go full brand split (which I am in favor of), and use The Unified Title as the Collision top title. Otherwise, the title gets renamed probably by Forbidden Door.