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So what the fuck was your point about Rory then?
You guys wouldn't be so upset if he didn't have personality. You can't call someone wooden and bland and then blow up when he actually does something that makes him stand out.
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When I think of personality I think of guys like Chael Sonnen, Rashad, Rampage, the Diaz brothers, etc. Rory is just wooden vanilla dreck.
That's not really great names to showcase what personality actually is. The first name you listed is a person who basically cribs his material from Dusty Rhodes promos and has stuff written for him beforehand. When he actually does come off as authentic, such as telling the story about how his mom almost shot Yushin Okami, people rarely get to see it.
I am not really sure why you listed Rashad since nothing about him particularly stands out except for the fact that people had the exact same resentment for Rashad five years ago that they have for Rory now. There are plenty of people still mad that he did that Fred Sanford heart attack bit after he sent Chuck Liddell to an alternate dimension. If you were doing PR events, I doubt he would be in the top 10 or 15 fighters you would send. Hell, you wouldn't send any of those dudes to do PR outside commentary booth Chael. Nick Diaz wouldn't even show up. You wouldn't send "talking about beating up LeBron James" Chael Sonnen to make your product look stupid and bush league. If I want to watch manufactured quasi-pro wrestling stuff, I'll watch....get this...pro wrestling.
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We're going to see were Rampage stacks up in the pantheon of post-HBO Roy Jones Jr. opponents
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There is boxing on Showtime this weekend. Even though it's headlined by Andre Berto vs. Mexican JTTS Jesus Soto-Karass, the fight to watch is Keith Thurman vs. Diego Chaves. Chaves is someone who I have watched for awhile. He has decent handspeed, fun to watch, and has good power, attributes he shares with many of his contemporaries from Argentina. Chaves' one problem, besides being a big fish in small pond, is that he CONSTANTLY readjusts his trunks in his fights. Like every 10 seconds, he has to readjust his trunks. He has more problems with his trunks than his opponents.
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I don't think he has any personality at all either but I think his actions have made enough people dislike him enough to tune in hoping he gets beat. So that will probably translate into buys. But that only works because of his ability as a fighter. If he wasn't really damn good, nobody would really give enough of a crap to begin with.
We need to define what personality is. Because I doubt people can look at someone's actions and then deem them to have no personality.
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What personality? He's wallpaper
I doubt folks panties would be in a bunch if he didn't have any personality. You don't have to be Rowdy Piper to have personality or charisma.
He's creepy and does an awful Ali shuffle. That doesn't = buys.
That wasn't my point.
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What personality? He's wallpaper
I doubt folks panties would be in a bunch if he didn't have any personality. You don't have to be Rowdy Piper to have personality or charisma.
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OH NO! NOT THIS AGAIN!
I don't want reignite this argument again. But I will say this: it's good that Rory can engender this type of response. If his 80s Mid-Atlantic heel shtick can make people upset, then he can actually be at least a mid-level draw for the UFC down the line. If you look at the Fox deal now, all it did was basically elevate the WEC guys (Benson, Pettis, Cub, Koch, DJ, Castillo, etc.) from Versus. And from the business Benson and Aldo have generated so far, just being a quality fighter doesn't really do it. At least Aldo has a small net with the money coming from Brazil. But who knows how the market will be if they keep cranking out cards with subpar starpower. If Rory can make himself someone who can break the 400,000 buy threshold or get a decent enough rating on Fox, it's basically on him if he succeeds or not. It's evident that they need more personalities who can get themselves over rather than just billing people as ____________ champion.
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Nice presentation Elsalvajeloco. Not keen on the Flyweight division, preferred it when Bantamweight was the lowest weight class for men. I forgot Liz Carmouche was fighting on this show.
Thank you, sir.
I think everyone forgot Liz Carmouche was on the card. Apparently, Jessica Andrade is a lesbian too so that makes this the first UFC bout between two individuals who openly identify themselves as gay or lesbian. You would expect that would get bigger coverage.
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Pacific Rim started around 75% with 8 or 9 reviews, went as high as 80%, and then went down to 72% as the reviews started to pile in. Certain elements of summer action movies can be divisive. I highly doubt anything can as divisive as what was in X-Men Origins: Wolverine.
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The movie Everest will have an all-star cast of Tom Hardy, Josh Brolin, Jake Gyllenhaal, John Hawkes, and Jason Clarke.
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Dead, dead horses
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Yep, we are full now. Usually someone starts a non-paid DVDVR League at some point, it just takes someone taking the time to do it
I am a notorious cheapskate so I will be forced to join that league whenever that starts.
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UFC on Fox: Johnson vs. Moraga
July 27, 2013
Seattle, WA (KeyArena)UFC Flyweight Championship: Demetrious Johnson © (124.5) vs. John Moraga (124.5) (second defense) - Johnson, SUB (armbar), R5 (3:43)
Rory MacDonald (170.5) vs. Jake Ellenberger (171) - MacDonald, DEC (unanimous)
Robbie Lawler (170.5) vs. Bobby Voelker (170) - Lawler, KO (high kick and punches), R2 (0:24)
Liz Carmouche (136) vs. Jessica Andrade (134) - Carmouche, TKO (strikes), R2 (3:57)FX Preliminary Card:
Michael Chiesa (155.5) vs. Jorge Masvidal (157.5)** - Masvidal, SUB (d'arce choke), R2 (4:59)
Danny Castillo (155) vs. Tim Means (160)* - Castillo, DEC (unanimous)
Mac Danzig (155) vs. Melvin Guillard (155) - Guillard, KO (punches), R2 (2:47)
Yves Edwards (155) vs. Daron Cruickshank (156) - Cruickshank, DEC (split)
Ed Herman (186) vs. Trevor Smith (185) - Herman, DEC (split)
Julie Kedzie (135.5) vs. Germaine de Randamie (135) - de Randamie, DEC (split)Facebook Preliminary Card:
Aaron Riley (156) vs. Justin Salas (155) - Salas, DEC (split)
John Albert (137)* vs. Yaotzin Meza (136) - Meza, SUB (rear naked choke), R2 (2:49)*Forfeits 20% of purse for missing weight
**Made weight on second attemptEvent Bonuses ($50,000) :
Knockout of the Night: Melvin Guillard
Submission of the Night: Demetrious Johnson
Fight of the Night: Ed Herman vs. Trevor SmithAttendance: 8,967
Gate: $700,081
Rating: 1.5 (2.384 million)Cancelled Bouts:
Robbie Lawler vs. Siyar Bahadurzada - Injury to Bahadurzada
Matt Mitrione vs.Brendan Schaub - Injury to Mitrione
Miesha Tate vs. Liz Carmouche - Tate Removed From Card Due to The Ultimate Fighter
Michael Chiesa vs. Reza Madadi - Madadi Removed From Card Due to Visa Issues
Yves Edwards vs. Spencer Fisher - Injury to Fisher
Danny Castillo vs. Bobby Green - Injury to Green
Tarec Saffiedine vs. Robbie Lawler - Injury to Saffiedine
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Thales Leites vs. Tom Watson for the linear BAMMA middleweight title I see
The fights below Machida vs. Davis has to be the most Fuel TV oriented lineup that is not on Fuel.
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They could bring Freddie Mercury back from the dead and it wouldn't help that movie if they're going to make it PG.
I agree, but the odds were going to be slim no matter what the rating was going to be. From Days of Our Lives documentary, you can tell there is a few elements of Freddie Mercury's life that the band and perhaps his family don't want out there. I'm not saying they have to make stuff up as Hollywood tends to do just to tell a story (ex. What's Love Got to Do with It, Mommie Dearest), but I doubt anyone really wants to see a live action Wikipedia entry. That's what it sounded like they were doing BEFORE Sacha Baron Cohen left and the story came out last night. Basically, it would the first half of the documentary without Freddie looking like a skeleton shooting his last music video with Queen at the end.
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He was pretty much the only person for that role that won't require a shitload of makeup. They better find the dude from A Prophet and teach him how to sound like Freddie Mercury.
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Strangley I think if Spike did buy TNA we'd see even more generically tatted up wrestlers and Bellator fighters then we do now.
I smell a Russian invasion of Frodo Khasbulaev, Andrey Koreshkov, Shahbulat Shamhalaev, and Alexander Shlemenko. I want to hear Tazz butcher those names.
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So is sprewell not coming back? I used to tally them sometimes, so I wouldn't mind running it.
He hasn't joined at this point so I'd get your calculator ready
This.
Also, 100+ million points for Nenz.
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At work and/or tweeting about kawaii pets. Other than that, I have no clue.
Anyway, he doesn't have the scores so we will be starting from scratch. This is what Google Drive and Dropbox is for, folks.
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I have to found out if rimz saved the standings because I sure as hell didn't.
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Deadline is reporting that Sacha Baron Cohen will no longer be playing Freddie Mercury in the Freddie Mercury biopic.
Apparently Cohen wanted to make an R rated film while the surviving members of Queen wanted it to be PG so Cohen finally got fed up and bailed because he "couldn't make the film he wanted to"
I'm a little bit scared about what kind of movie he was imagining. Maybe, SBC wanted it to cover Freddie's life beyond Live Aid also.
I would rather see Rush (or Runner, Runner) than Prisoners if I could only see one film in late September/early October. Anthony Dod Mantle's cinematography is more intriguing than Hugh Jackman going award hunting. The trailer just makes it look insufferable. -
I think Sam Worthington doesn't even try. I don't expect everyone to be Tracey Ullman though.
MMA Talk.
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I'm not sure if I should start a new thread, but they are boxers and MMA fighters that have been listed as Biogenesis clients. The only person from either sport whose name actually got out when the story first broke earlier this year was Yuriorkis Gamboa. Everyone seems to be expecting some Earth shattering names, but it could be some guys from MMA past with a history of PEDs like Ken Shamrock who are on the list. So far, a lot of people are going with a bunch of people from the Blackzilians.