Elsalvajeloco
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5 hours ago, zendragon said:
I wish Vince would have kept wearing that shirt and grown his Earl Flynn mustache to go with it
I think you mean Errol Flynn.
Earl Flynn sounds like a guy who had some minor and obscure country hits in the 1970s and 80s, and his biggest claim to fame is opening up for the Oak Ridge Boys and Alabama.
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I dunno how long they can let Guida continue to fight in the UFC. The last stretch has been really rough. It doesn't help that he's always been the quintessential guy who might show up in some bare knuckle promotion: someone with a notable name who was never a certain level in the UFC/MMA and also willing to take ungodly punishment. I am not sure being a UFC loyalist is gonna save him. He's getting beat up by guys young enough to be his sons.
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Three notable news notes:
Holly Holm is no longer on the UFC roster. Looks like she has no plans to stop fighting anytime soon.
PFL has discontinued using Bellator branding effectively immediately, which means that Bellator is officially dead if it wasn't already. Helwani had some convoluted explanation on his show about how PFL would work going forward with the now former champs for Bellator. However, it made little sense to me. Only thing I understood is they are switching from a robin round points format to single elimination tournaments, which Bellator was obviously doing.
Patricio Pitbull has been released from PFL on top of that news.
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Tyson Fury has announced his retirement as of yesterday.
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5 hours ago, waffle said:
Terrible replacement opponent, but glad they're moving on from Goodman.
Naoya Inoue has a random opponent generator, apparently.
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1 hour ago, odessasteps said:
There have always those fonts. In the car so can't research the names. Now imagining Dave still using it if there was still a print observer.
On that note, for a daily Observer update weeks ago, I saw that Chris Cruise was still providing updates to Dave. I had to look at the date on several calendars as well as my computer taskbar and phone cause I could have sworn we were no longer in the year 1992. In that same update, he did a small blurb about Ricky Henderson. So that made it feel even more throwback.
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As much as I hate Amanda Ribas cause she is easily the most likeable person on the UFC roster, it seemed like Dern needed the win the most and definitely fought with a sense of urgency.
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Casino Magic hosted a ton of USA Tuesday Night Fights cards to the point where it became very synonymous with the program much like the Blue Horizon did, which ironically based on all this NE vs. the South was in Philly. The Blue Horizon was to boxing in Philly what the ECW Arena was to wrestling.
Although I'm clearly biased, I will say Mississippi heat is a different kinda heat. And I'm lived most of my life in the corner of the state (bordering Arkansas) that's not really near as much water like I'm assuming bobholly138 is on the coast. I am sure a sweltering summer in Mississippi is considered it's own circle of hell.
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Here is the template for this week:
EVENT #1
POINT TOTAL: 0
UFC Fight Night on ESPN+ 107: Dern vs. Ribas II (01/11/2025) - Las Vegas, NV (UFC Apex)
Mackenzie Dern vs. Amanda Ribas - Ribas, DEC
Santiago Ponzinibbio vs. Carlston Harris - Ponzinibbio, DEC
Abdul Razak Alhassan vs. César Almeida - Almeida, TKO, R2
Chris Curtis vs. Roman Kopylov - Kopylov, DEC
Austin Bashi vs. Christian Rodriguez - Rodriguez, DEC
Punahele Soriano vs. Uroš Medić - Medić, TKO, R2
Jose Johnson vs. Felipe Bunes - Johnson, DEC
Marco Tulio vs. Ihor Potieria - Tulio, TKO, R2
Thiago Moisés vs. Trey Ogden - Moisés, SUB, R2
Preston Parsons vs. Jacobe Smith - Smith, TKO, R2
Ernesta Kareckaitė vs. Nicolle Caliari - Caliari, DEC
Magomed Gadzhiyasulov vs. Bruno Lopes - Gadzhiyasulov, DEC
Victoria Dudakova vs. Fatima Kline - Kline, DEC
Joe Solecki vs. Nurullo Aliev - Aliev, DECThe Event #1 deadline is Saturday, January 11, 2:45 p.m. CT.
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RULES:
Each part of your pick is worth one point. If the fighter you select wins, you receive one point. If they win in the method you specified (TKO/KO, SUB, DEC), you gain another point. If they win in the round you specified (regardless of method chosen except decision), you also receive a point. For fights that go to DEC, you will be awarded points for the method of victory as well as guessing the correct round.
If you select the wrong fighter, you will receive 0 points.
Title fights and tournament final fights (with both participants correctly predicted) are worth double points in each category for a maximum of six points.
You are responsible for getting your picks in on time, especially when it comes to foreign cards that start at irregular times in North America.
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UFC Fight Night on ESPN+ 107: Dern vs. Ribas II
January 11, 2025
Las Vegas, NV (UFC Apex)Mackenzie Dern (116) vs. Amanda Ribas (116) - Dern, SUB (armbar), R3 (4:56)
Santiago Ponzinibbio (171) vs. Carlston Harris (170) - Ponzinibbio, TKO (punches), R3 (3:13)
Abdul Razak Alhassan (185.5) vs. César Almeida (185.5) - Almeida, KO (punch), R1 (4:16)
Chris Curtis (185.5) vs. Roman Kopylov (185.5) - Kopylov, TKO (head kick), R3 (4:59)
Austin Bashi (145.5) vs. Christian Rodriguez (145) - Rodriguez, DEC (unanimous)
Punahele Soriano (171) vs. Uroš Medić (171) - Soriano, KO (punches), R1 (0:31)ESPN+ Preliminary Card:
Jose Johnson (128.5)** vs. Felipe Bunes (126) - Bunes, SUB (armbar), R1 (2:04)
Marco Tulio (185.5) vs. Ihor Potieria (188)* - Tulio, TKO (punches), R1 (3:04)
Thiago Moisés (155.5) vs. Trey Ogden (155.5) - Moisés, DEC (unanimous)
Preston Parsons (171) vs. Jacobe Smith (170.5) - Smith, KO (punch), R1 (1:13)
Ernesta Kareckaitė (126) vs. Nicolle Caliari (125.5) - Kareckaitė, DEC (split)
Magomed Gadzhiyasulov (205) vs. Bruno Lopes (205.5) - Lopes, DEC (unanimous)
Victoria Dudakova (116) vs. Fatima Kline (116) - Kline, TKO (elbows), R2 (4:27)
Joe Solecki (155) vs. Nurullo Aliev (155.5) - Aliev, DEC (unanimous)*Forfeits 25% of purse for missing weight
**Forfeits 20% of purse for missing weightEvent Bonuses ($50,000)
Performance of the Night: César Almeida
Performance of the Night: Mackenzie Dern
Fight of the Night: Chris Curtis vs. Roman Kopylov -
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FINAL 2024 POINT TOTAL
1. DreamBroken: 1286
2. Elsalvajeloco: 1271
3. Hail Sabin: 843
4. twiztor: 16
5. The Natural: 15EVENT TALLY:
DreamBroken 1st (44 events)
Elsalvajeloco 2nd (42 events)
Hail Sabin 3rd (10 events)
twiztor 4th-tied (0 events)
The Natural 4th-tied (0 events)Congrats, @DreamBroken! Finished first in point total and also finished 1st in the event tally, which would have been the tiebreaker should it have been needed.
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Please tell me that Hulk's company is owned by like Anheuser Busch InBev or Molson Coors or some other major company.
You're telling me WWE couldn't get a blue chip beer sponsor?
UFC changed beer sponsors last year and it was trending on Twitter for like half a day cause some right wing nuts thought Bud Light was too liberal.
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Or double posting?
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Yeah, in 2025, when some stuff has been unearthed that hasn't been seen before it's great. However, in 1991 for example, your time could've been better served than watching all fourteen or fifteen minutes of Bill Kazmaier & Jushin Liger v. Diamond Dallas Page & Mike Graham on WCW Starrcade 1991. Like running a railroad spike clean through the other side of your head.
And that's probably not even the worst match on the show. Or even the second worst, which is mindboggling. There is like 500% more Firebreaker Chip, Todd Champion, PN News, and the Nightstalker than anyone could have possibly wanted.
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35 minutes ago, RazorbladeKiss87 said:
I know that in this modern era we are lucky that we almost exclusively get full shows but things like this are good examples of why clipped matches on old commercial tapes aren't the worst thing in the world. I'm sure that match is brutal to watch in real time but the clips are cool. I love that kick Kitao does to Mabel while he's on his back.
Exactly. Also, I wanna know how many Japanese people were complaining about not seeing a full length Koji Kitao match.
I am kinda sad that even went away over here cause the best thing Coliseum Video ever did was edited crappy events to a more tolerable two hours or less. If you're not going to edit a terrible match completely out, the only version should be the digest one of all the highspots. Save people the time and agony.
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34 minutes ago, Nice Guy Eddie said:
Considering JR worked with Lawler's unfunny, racist ass for years, we're lucky we didn't get worse reagarding the OWE team.
Re: This + all the other examples being mentioned
Judging by Bruce's antics of making up Japanese names on early STW episodes and his Mr. Yunioshi-esque impressions, that seems like a whoever worked in WWF creative in the 90s and was around Vince type thing. Ross, Cornette, and Prichard don't exactly have the most sterling records when it comes to racial stuff.
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He's on the small side, but at the same time, Jerry Lynn in the early 90s was very small compared what he looked like seven or eight years later from when he first became noticed. He couldn't have been that much bigger than Chad Austin and got a few cracks at working some of the syndicated shows (granted, probably off the strength of what he did in Global).
I think it probably depended on who was helping to book those guys so the criteria probably changed especially post Chuck Austin lawsuit. The guys like Reno Riggins, John Paul, Horowitz, and Scott Taylor looked to be better workers than a lot of the guys they were being squashed by. Reno Riggins had a great little 4 or 5 minute TV match with 1-2-3 Kid on Superstars and a believe a shorter match on another show and never really got a look beyond that.
It's crazy to think that WWF was employing guys who were stinking out the joint in 1-3 minute squash matches that were taped weeks in advance were you could edit it into something halfway decent, but you're somehow expecting them to have a credible match when a live PPV rolls around.
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2 hours ago, Cobra Commander said:
yeah imagine how shitty you have to be to be a steroid dude who can do magic tricks and the WWF is like "Naahhhh"
And he only got in cause Lawler recommended him as a Memphis guy. Sidenote: There is a taping cycle in late 95 where Lawler brings in the Memphis guys as enhancement talent like Tony Williams, Reggie B. Fine working under his real name, and others. Reggie B Fine is either wrestling Jean Pierre Lafitte or Yokozuna and is about to get literally squashed taking their finish, and Lawler shouts "MOVE, REGINALD!". Unfortunately, it didn't work.
Speaking of steroid guys, I've been wondering lately why Terra Ryzing never got a WWF dark match or try out. You know that would be one of the first things unearthed by the WWE vault.
ALL the northeast guys like Tony Roy (who is literally from the same hometown as Levesque, IIRC also a bodybuilder, and was his opponent for a lot of his early matches), Phil Apollo, Richie Rich, Scott Taylor, Perry Saturn (forgot the name he used as enhancement talent), etc. all get work as enhancement talent and several matches in WWF including house shows. Most of them except for Taylor were trained by Killer Kowalski. There are about ten guys from that crew who regularly appear for a period of three or four years maybe longer. Yet, Levesque doesn't really did get on their radar until he gets his WCW gig. How does a guy who looks like the guy they would love to have only come in after he drops mostly all the muscle when he turned into Jean Paul Levesque later in 1994? Even if he was terrible in the ring until 1994, they let another huge muscle guy in Mark Thomas have match after match on TV and he was horrendous.
I am assuming he turned that down figuring he didn't want to be seen as a job guy, and he wouldn't be able to pass those "very tough" drug tests that were implemented in 1992. By the time he is pretty much officially signed to WWF in March 1995, he is about 35-40 lbs smaller than what he started out as in WCW.
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3 minutes ago, Cobra Commander said:
Mr. Hughes with some superb reacting to the Undertaker sending him urns. You know, they really should have paired Mr. Hughes and IRS once DiBiase dipped out. At least Hughes and Rotunda/o would have matching outfits.
Hughes is only in WWF for a 4-5 months if that before he winds up as muscle for Shane Douglas in ECW for a few months. He is in the long list of guys who feud with Undertaker, and that's essentially all they did during their WWF run.
Someone needs to come up with a spreadsheet and figure out which era of WWF had the most turnover in terms of talent: late 80s WWF or steroid trial era WWF. Like Ludvig Borga's WWF run is like five months, he gets hurt, and just never comes back.
1995 is rough too cause they either release a bunch of people or essentially make them part timers or a combination being made a de facto part-timer/giving notice like Bam Bam, Kama, etc. around SummerSlam and the last quarter of the year. Poor Del Rios (Spellbinder in USWA) was so terrible he got one shot on TV, set the Gorilla position on fire, and was never brought back.
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55 minutes ago, odessasteps said:
Agreed. But you are saving your bump card as a ref, where you may only have to bump 1 time a card at most, at least in that era. Off the top of my head, can't think of a ref getting injured legit in a match other than what happened to Tommy Young, which was a freak deal. I'm sure many probably had knee problems from wear and tear just like the wrestlers would. Oh wait, Tim White dislocated his shoulder once, I think. There's another.
45 minutes ago, odessasteps said:On the first Boesch pay sheet I found from 1980, mid card workers got $500, prelims got $275 or $250, managers got $500 and the two refs, Bronco Lubich and Danny McShain got $275 and $250 and Bronco $25 for Trans. Race and Tony Atlas were in the World title main Event and got over $3000 apiece.
Funny you should bring up Bronco cause with the way those dudes like Hebner and Chioda were slapping the mat as if their lives depended on making super exaggerated motions especially back when those rings were hard as hell, I am not shocked that even some of the refs were on somas and other painkillers. So compare that along with WWF creative asking refs to bump more frequently to Bronco who would take forever and a day to count one pin attempt, you have to absolutely seperate 70s and 80s refs from modern day referees. I am safely assuming, much like Japanese and Mexican referees, those guys were largely getting paid for other responsibilities on top of refereeing.
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Tommy Gilbert is there as a ref a couple times. It's weird cause in the UWF, during their one of their several angles to generate mega heat, Tommy Gilbert is one of the refs to break a fracas up and the leading perp is EDDIE GILBERT. Jim Ross doesn't mention it AT ALL of course.
It's like Stan Lane during his time doing commentary during the dying days of Wrestling Challenge and the Heavenly Bodies and Cornette are doing something heelish in the ring. Outside of a small reference you may not catch, it's like those worlds aren't suppose to touch.
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Maybe my timeline is off, but did Lawler get his cousin Carl Fergie a job as a referee in Mid South? Fergie had an interesting run cause he's in a tag team with Larry Latham/Booker, then does the "King" Carl Fergie stuff, then becomes a ref for awhile, and then jumps back to being an enhancement wrestler. You pick a random Mid South show, and he might show as either one of the main referees or a jobber.
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