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Survivor Series has always sucked. People just thought it was important because it was one of the original four PPVs. The only redeeming quality has been the bizarre teams of jacked to the gills geeked-out of their gourds maniacs, warriors, giants, birdmen, hillbillies, and snakemen gathering together to do promos for that one special time of year when they can all unite in their shared interests of SURVIVAL and COCAINE!
TEAMS OF FIVE STRIVE TO SURVIVE! CRANK UP THE 'COCK AND CRANK UP THE SAX!! IT'S TIME FOR THE SURVIVOR SERIES!!![/COKED-UP VINCE]
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On 11/17/2021 at 1:40 PM, Gorman said:
Thoughts on Fall Brawl 93
Of course, the highest-profile PPV debutants were Shockmaster and Harlem Heat. It was strange to see them thrown right into a giant grudge match like War Games. Road Warrior Animal was in the babyfaces' corner for some reason. Shockmaster overcame his Three Stooges-like TV debut and beat Kole (Booker T) with the bearhug
Hawk was on the babyface team in the print ads so Animal was probably already booked too. Harlem Heat were pictured draped in chains too so their TV build probably got dropped with the gimmick change. The entirety of the War Games build seemed to be entirely on that one Flair For The Gold segment.
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On 11/8/2021 at 3:44 PM, Lawful Metal said:
Given all the releases, are there any dream matches left in WWE?
There's still plenty of money matches/programs they can drop the ball on.
Reigns vs. Goldberg/Rock/Jeff Hardy/babyface AJ Styles/babyface Santos Escobar/Swerve/Bron Breakker.
If they could get out of their boring WrestleMania formula they could main event night one with New Day vs. Bloodline.
Brock vs. Lashley/Bron Breakker. I also want to see him against Otis and Ivar but they're not going to use him against either of them.
Viking Experience vs. Alpha Experience would be fun too.
On 11/8/2021 at 5:47 PM, Lawful Metal said:On the other hand, are there any dream AEW matches?
No.
I do want Lio Rush to bring in Keith Lee, Kemonito, and Microman as his new associates. They all wear top hats and tux tails and Keith "Fatcat" Lee, Al Lush, and Micro The Main Man just strut out to interrupt promos and then strut off to commercial. No matches necessary.
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Arn's podcast kind of devolved back into a 'Conrad reads results' show but they play his promos so it's like a JCP Arn promo compilation. And sometimes you get something like, "I clearly misspoke there, I meant to say I was imbued not inbred."
Jarrett's show is very good. It makes sense that someone that's survived politically like him would understand how to thread the needle just right to indulge Conrad in his usual podcast bullshit while still being able to produce something of value.
Angle's is surprisingly good too. The John du Pont episode is amazing cause I didn't know anything about him other than killing Dave Schultz (not Dr. D). The stuff he was doing was hilarious until he started pointing guns at people. "Back then we didn't know about mental health, you were either crazy or you weren't." John du Pont was crazy.
I think just watching the actual JCP shows is a better use of time than bothering with Schiavone's podcast about them.
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On 10/18/2021 at 5:21 PM, Infinit said:
I posted this in the AEW Oct thread...but I think that this warrants some discussion here as well:
Really, WWE going from FOX to FS1 and keeping half of their audience is more impressive than AEW retaining their 49-year old male demo. FS1, TBS, and FOX aren't really even comparable networks unlike TNT and USA. That's why Vince ripped Triple H's heart out cause he got decimated in an even fight. If AEW really wanted to do something then they should try to get some kind of special on TNT or TBS, head to head against Raw during football season.
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I know he did because I remember him standing in the background wearing his tux looking like redneck Lurch but it never really seemed like Sid interacted much with the rest of the Horsemen. He was doing tag matches with Hansen and had that weird heel feud with Big Cat and Night Stalker. And I don't remember any kind of story to his becoming a Horsemen. Luger, Windham, and Sting all joined as part of angles. Sid got hurt as a Skyscraper and when he returned, there was just some stuff on commentary about the Horsemen going with youth so Sid was now a Horsemen.
I'm not sure I've got the timeline straight but what would've been good is if Ole had said he stole Sid from Teddy Long because Sid's got the potential to be a future Horsemen. So Ole'd be managing Sid and the Minnesota Wrecking Crew II separate from the other 3 Horsemen but stealing Sid from Peanut Head would've added some additional fuel to the Doom/Horsemen feud and the MWCII could've been used as cannon fodder for Doom as well. Then turn Sid face cause he was already one of the most cheered guys in the company.
Then the Horsemen fire Ole and bring in Harley Race for the JJ role and he brings Luger back to the Horsemen to capture the WHC from Sting. So your Four Horsemen are Arn, Windham, Flair, Luger, and manager Race and WCW's top faces would be Sting, the Steiners, and Sid Vicious.
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Orndorff should've been Sting's first program. Legit main event draw and would've meshed well with Sting. Then you move him over to Luger for a body guy program. The table was set when he walked out of Sting's celebration but he kept walking right out of the promotion instead.
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18 hours ago, bazzil said:
Maybe this belongs in the hot take thread, but i dont see the big deal with the garbage bag stuff. Theyre good bags. Large, durable, waterproof, got the little tie gimmick on the end to close them up. As long as it wasnt pulled out of a dumpster then its just a fucking plastic bag.
The women have a drawer in a shared road case for their makeup so placing it in a garbage bag is probably the safest way to ship it to them. People acting like they had fucking desks covered in family photos or something. It's lipstick, double-sided tape, and socks or some shit.
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The DX invasion wasn't live. It was taped in the afternoon.
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I think every wrestling company really wasted an opportunity to try new things during the pandemic. Yeah, IMPACT had Wrestle House but that was just corny hokum. Instead of running interesting angles, it's just endless cold matches everywhere. WWE has spent years doing everything they could to get out of the ring and when they were given a good reason to, it's felt like more in-ring time than ever. And even if the matches aren't as long as they seem, it's because there's no reason for them to be without any angles. At least give me some kind of promos, like give me Wardlow sticking a jabrone's head up his own ass in a minute followed by a Pinnacle promo where everyone gets some personality over or Jey Uso shit talking and mollywhopping someone in a couple of minutes followed by Reigns and Heyman holding court. People who needed to work on their promos could've done so without crowds "WHAT"-ing them to death but nope.
WWE's just unwatchable and not necessarily because of the creative but there's just too much visual stimulation. There's just bright lights everywhere and the cameras are switching and panning and zooming in and out. I'm surprised there aren't any reports of people having seizures watching WWE. I really liked their WrestleMania set-up last year and then they just kept adding more shit.
AEW really benefited from no fans cause I felt like their live crowds were on the verge of turning on them before the pandemic. You really expect me to believe that Brodie Lee dressed like Repo Man and acting like Vince McMahon leading the Dork Order was going to be a crowd-pleaser. Or Matt Hardy being Broken again wasn't going to get played out as fast as it did even without fans. So funny to hear "Hangman sucks" chants and the Dark Order getting booed at Revolution. It isn't the violence that turns off female fans, it's all the dork-ass nerds. Matt Sydal got a shot at the AEW Champion because he kicked a man whose pants were down around his ankles. Can't wait to never watch AEW Dark Elevation after seeing that highlight.
IMPACT's big cuck energy is a real turn-off. "A champion from another company is here, it's unprecedented, forbidden door, blah, blah." This is a company that's had the IWGP Heavyweight Champion, the GHC Heavyweight Champion, the AAA Mega Champion, the reigning WWE Intercontinental Champion all appear on their programming before. "Oh, Kenny Omega's the best in the world." They had AJ Styles for a decade. They've had Liger, Muta, Sting, Flair, Savage, Hogan; the goddamned Rock did Ken Shamrock's HOF induction and you expect me to care about this dweeb. And they've got the TnT boys shit talking them during their own show and telling their audience to tune in the next night for a better wrestling show. You got a roster full of guys who go out to murder each other in the woods and they're all just sitting back and taking shit from a fat guy who looks like he just woke up from under a park bench and a nervous guy who looks like he got hopped up on sugar to brave the camera. And they keep moving Impact away from any competition. Defend your night, you cowards!
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You must have rocks in your head, baby. Fridge's Starting Lineup figure was never produced but Mongo was, baby! And lemme tell ya something sports fans, that squirmy worm Dennis Rodman got a bunch of figures too, baby.
Piper and Rock also have GI Joes. Batista has MCU figures. Sheamus in TMNT. Bret Hart in The Simpsons.
Mr. T had a large talking solo release as well as Rocky and A-Team figures all out at pretty much the same time in the 80s but just recently got a WWE figure. Hogan and Michael Buffer have Rocky figures too. I wouldn't necessarily call Rocky a major toyline but Hogan and T were big deals at the time.
There's some UFC crossovers as well but again, I wouldn't necessarily classify UFC as a major toyline.
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https://twitter.com/MajorWFPod/status/1354474653188816897
https://twitter.com/TheZombieSailor/status/1356290521002614787
https://twitter.com/MajorWFPod/status/1353884636187942919
They got the original Hasbro designer to do the turnarounds so they look a lot nicer than the Nick Aldis figure.
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Wrestling fans are going to remember 2020 for empty arena shows due to the pandemic. That's fine but don't ever forget that 2020 was the year every company had groups of dark-clad cannon fodder mystery men running around.
AEW with The Dark Order. IMPACT had EC3's followers. MLW with masked Contra soldiers. WWE with Tozawa's ninjas, Retribution, and the pre-Legado Del Fantasma in the most dangerous place in professional wrestling: the Orlando parking lot.
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Jake Crist is officially gone. He hasn't been around for months though.
Ethan Page is most likely gone as well. Not Josh Alexander though. A Josh Alexander singles run could be pretty good.
I've found IMPACT to be hard to watch since like BFG last year. You had Joey Ryan's dick stuff, then the pandemic, then other guys' dick stuff, losing Tessa Blanchard without getting her to drop the World Title, building Slammiversary around debuting fired WWE guys, and now they're all about AEW. And the corn to serious ratio has just been way out of whack for a while now.
I like the pandemic Impact Zone a lot though. I could live without the constantly flashing screen and I don't understand why anyone has guardrails without fans but I like the tightness of the room. I liked AEW at the Nightmare Factory too. I saw some clips of ROH's setup and I like the screens but the room's way too big.
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TV ratings don't matter until sweeps. I doubt FOX or USA are that disappointed in the ratings considering WWE gives them consistent weekly live programming whereas if they were dependent on scripted taped programming, they'd be screwed due to the pandemic.
17 hours ago, The Green Meanie said:I was real excited upon seeing this link, but they don't allow AdBlock users, so no thanks.
It works for me on a Windows 10 device without disabling. Try disabling cosmetic filtering on AdBlock.
3 hours ago, paintedbynumbers said:Does anyone know if WWE is doing away with the classics on WWE Network? Nothing added or announced for December. It's just sad at this point.
In-office staff is limited with a lot of people working from home. I don't think they can digitize the video library from home.
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Jim Ross has made millions and helped others make millions so for anyone to disregard him and make fun of him when he's trying to help them is incredibly arrogant. It's not like he's cursing at them and telling them to kill themselves like Cornette does. Guys like Ross, Tom Prichard, and Les Thatcher are legitimately trying to help guys be better at their chosen profession. It doesn't matter if you disagree with his assessment, they should just be thankful for him giving them some of his knowledge and increasingly limited time.
Also, that's a bold move by The Young Bucks' errand boy. Publicly sassing off to Khan's senior advisor after they just signed a high-priced free agent and it's been stated that there's bound to be some cuts next year.
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On 12/13/2020 at 11:11 PM, twiztor said:
speaking of Kinnikuman, a couple years ago i found the first episode (and only the first ep) dubbed into English. now that i'm looking for it again, i'm striking out. anybody run across it recently?
https://www.thewatchcartoononline.tv/anime/muscleman-english-subbed
Fan-subs of the first 86 episodes. I always wondered how Mattel would've edited it to get it to make sense to an American audience cause the main toy-line villain doesn't show up for quite a while. Also, cause it's weird as shit and maybe not all that appropriate for children in the 80s.
The sequel series Ultimate Muscle was officially dubbed into English. The voice work and dialogue is awful though.
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Jake Roberts is right there if you really want a mouthpiece for Abadon. I don't know if she's tall enough to help him put his jacket on though.
Big Swole's problem is all the posturing. I think it throws both her and her opponent's timing off. You don't have to pose and dance after every strike.
Baker's so much better post-injury cause she seems to be keeping the match in a box so she looks more effective than when she would slowly run the ropes with no urgency.
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On 12/2/2020 at 11:21 PM, just drew said:
Given their shared history, and the apparent AEW/Impact relationship, Mox's attacker is gonna be Sami Callihan, isn't it? Oy.
Callihan doing Callis' dirty work wouldn't make any kind of sense though.
I really don't think this IMPACT crossover is going to be all that extensive. It seems like its more about getting Callis over as a heel more than IMPACT as invaders. It's probably just an Omega appearance for use of IMPACT's Sting footage.
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You can get the direct MP3 off their RSS feeds. The Conrad podcasts and Jericho are on MegaPhone. Mooney's on Spreaker. So Google 'MegaPhone Arn RSS' and it should come up.
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1 hour ago, Elsalvajeloco said:
I don't remember Jake Roberts being part of this crew.
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Cody Rhodes hasn't changed at all since day 1 of AEW. He used his wife and a low blow to beat his own brother who was already bleeding half to death. The lack of a live crowd treating him like a god has just exposed his heelish manner.
People always complain about Brandi Rhodes' character when Allie's right there not making any kind of sense since her entire heel turn was said to be based on being sick of Cody being the face of the place and now she's in their entourage and Cody hasn't even acknowledged her presence.
Is Scorpio Sky kicking doors down and telling people to reach for the sky a BTE thing? Like a robber bit?
Chioda's almost as fat as Arn Anderson.
Brodie Lee should've worn his Repo Man outfit when he stole the old TNT belt.
Evil Uno slapped his thigh making a tag. Dork Odor looking like complete dorks losing with a 2 on 1 advantage and then with a 5 on 2 advantage they just let the Bucks sit on stage bragging to the camera instead of jumping on them.
FTR's entire knee injury ruse was about jumping a 60-year old man who just had a bout with Bell's Palsy? And everyone was so upset with them that they let FTR walk away real slow. Page couldn't even bother to put his drink down to help a potentially crippled Ricky Morton.
They've had Tully Blanchard just sitting in the stands looking like he's going to hand a bank teller a note for months instead of having him spit fire promos. Why don't they let people talk in this company? Shida got out one line before they threw to Archer abusing his elder.
Tag Team Appreciation Night sucked. I wanted to know who TH2, Lucha Bros, and The Nightmare Sisters favorite tag teams were.
Was Hardy fined for assaulting a referee? When Guevara came out later Hardy didn't go after him. Also, Posey's wearing a leather jacket in August in Florida. Does he have the cold chills? It might be the 'rona.
The finish of Cassidy/Jericho was overbooked but the rest was what I expected. Jericho's best work is as a brawler. He's never been as athletic as he or internet nerds think he is.
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On 8/8/2020 at 12:30 PM, Niners Fan in CT said:
The tag title scene in the 80's was so great... I'm not sure what happened to Vince. Hart Foundation, Rockers, Powers of Pain, Brain Busters, British Bulldogs, Killer Bees, Twin Towers, Strike Force, Demolition, on and on and on.... so many great teams.
On 8/8/2020 at 1:47 PM, Brian Fowler said:Bret Hart and Shawn Michaels happened, proving to Vince the only purpose of a tag team is to find a main event star.
Also, the 90s happened. In the 80s they were running like 2-4 separate crews on any given week. The World Champ would lead the A-crew, the IC the B, the Tag Champs the C, and then some high school could buy a fundraiser and get a Killer Bees/Bolsheviks main. The 90s come around and syndication dies, PPV is the big revenue source and business is down so they've got just one crew usually running in the Northeast with the occasional Euro tour and they're letting guys do indies cause they don't have enough work for them.
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Cardona showed absolutely nothing. Same ol' WWE B-show filler Zack Ryder. Beaver Boys looked real good though. I think that's the first time I've seen them since they became DO-boys. With the mask, Silver looks like Reynolds' mini. He also looks like one of those Remco-style figures Cardona sells. Maybe he needs some long tights.
Could live without the lame political segments. The MJF stuff feels like a warmed over EC3 gimmick from a few years ago. Also, why is Lee Johnson seemingly reluctantly working for MJF?
Was Guevara covered in blood when he came out before the debate? Should've aired the Hardy thing after the debate to cover for why Guevara was under the ring since he just disappears out of the commercial break. Skeeavone no-selling Taz when he was trying to feed him comparing the Hardy/Guevara situation being the same as Taz/Allin. Matt Hardy deserved that ass-whipping.
I think Sue stole that van. No plates. Also, that camera in the backseat.
Main was good. I liked Allin mocking Mox by wearing the mask from when Moxley could still grow bangs.
November 2021 Wrestling Discussion
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DId they dance?