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  1. If you've just arrived on the main roster as a heel, you're in a six person chamber match where you're the only definitive heel in the match, I suspect it undermines a lot of people in that match when you constantly play to the crowd for face reactions and hitting most of the high spots in the match.

    Equal blame should go to whoever produced the match to allow it and an inexperienced rookie, but that's some bullshit.

  2. I just landed in Perth. It's raining which is super rare for this part of the world.

    Should be an interesting out door show if this keeps up (which they're saying is unlikely by bell time, but looking at the forecast probably will stop about four hours before show time)

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  3. 5 hours ago, Elsalvajeloco said:

    I think it was one of those cases where we cannot have you wrestling on the house shows and being on tours internationally while telling folks you're hurt. So he got paid to sit at home. Good work if you can get it.

    There is also a point, but it's very brief, where Mabel raps himself to the ring and we don't see Oscar for weeks. Then, he magically shows back up. It's all very weird. Mabel rapping is terrible, but Oscar's raps don't even really pop the crowds anymore until he gets to the Whoomp There is It part. 

    It's intriguing as a black person watching the ascent of Men on a Mission, Harlem Heat, AND the Gangstas at real time after there being ZERO tag teams that are black of consequence outside of Doom. It's also HILARIOUS watching Booker and Stevie Ray talk about being New Jacks when there is literally a guy named New Jack acting like someone in the film New Jack City. However, I would say if Bruce saw Booker and Stevie Ray in Global and didn't try to get them in WWF, he guessed wrong cause they clearly have improved since 1993. This goes especially that they spent the back quarter of 1994 trying out these crazy ass tag team moves looking for a finisher. All of them MASSACRE these enhancement talent guys giving poor Bobby Heenan a heart attack every time. If someone started doing that now, it would be considered nuts. I am at the week when they finally settle on and introduce Booker doing the Harlem Hangover. They still need help having good matches but at least you can say they have one solid worker in Booker T whereas M.O.M has two guys who need to be carried. I also would estimate they've had a dozen good TV matches once they started to get a push and looked serviceable in the rest. M.O.M has been around for almost two years and giving them credit for two good matches may be being generous. The Gangstas ain't super workers at all, but they are over as a big time heels and New Jack every week is hilarious. The other week when he's making fun of the Armstrong kids was spectacular. 

    You can see in the WWF cartoony world that Men on a Mission is so one dimensional and even that one dimension isn't good once Oscar's creativity with raps stopped (this may or may not run parallel to certain present day acts). Mabel shows a tiny bit of promise, but if they're looking for a new Yoko, they probably should have realized that Yoko was around two years and they had to send him somewhere to go get his weight under control. Mabel started out being too big. These two things are happening at the exact same time. Nash ain't great, but he could be hidden with the right talent across the ring and still was very mobile. I can't say that with Mabel because the trial run as a singles didn't work cause he had ZERO important or halfway notable matches. Same when the tag team came back together. They had him do a two man Rumble match (yeah I know) on Raw with Bundy after they both were in the Rumble match and did nothing, and that was hideously bad. He's batting well below the Mendoza line on things he can actually do. I dunno how you can look at any of that and say "title challenger" for one of the major PPVs. They're already at the point where each PPV is doing worse year over year, and we're not talking difference between 1990 and 1992. We're talking last year was low and this year is somehow is even lower. Things look extremely bleak

    I can understand why they chose Mabel given the issues lingering of the steroid trial and I suspect he was working cheap. 

    But also it just feels like a rehash of Yokozuna who is still prominently featured on the midcard.

    I think they massively dropped the ball on a Scott Hall heel turn around here. 

  4. 9 minutes ago, Elsalvajeloco said:

    I am sure the injury was a work cause they had Owen go after the injury after he hurt himself. That was a KotR qualifier. So he was gone from May 1994 to October/November.

    Yeah it's a strange one - I can see he worked two more house shows after it, but also they're back and forth with USWA both before and after the knee, so he could have been working shows for them and didn't. Also after the heel turn, he was still on TV despite rarely wrestling. 

  5. 2 hours ago, Elsalvajeloco said:

    I would say Shawn starts showing his ass especially when he is rehabbing an injury and does commentary with Vince in late 94. He clearly knows he is best and freshest act in the company by this point (Taker is really over but he's never in anything remotely main event centric and that's weird). And it ain't even close. Being in February 1995, seeing how the arc is (Diesel/Shawn being a long term program and direction), and knowing what happens the night after WrestleMania makes me believe that Shawn seeing Vince doesn't know what the fuck is doing anymore just decided he is going to help steer the ship for Vince.

    An addendum: They took Mo off TV for five or so months to do a test run for Mabel as a singles. It just didn't work. He definitely wasn't ready. So from that, how do you pivot to this guy should be going against Diesel? Where I am they've (M.O.M) had one maybe two actual good matches in the damn near two years they've been there. In every case it's been who they've been working with as the reason why it was good. Why the fuck would you pair someone like Mabel who can only work short bursts at a time versus Diesel who needs a Bret or Shawn or Owen to work with and do the real legwork? There is a ton of questionable stuff in WWF at this time regarding creative. 

    Mo got injured in a televised match with Owen around that time, landed awkwardly on his knee and they just go straight to the finish.

    They did run him as a singles guy which went nowhere, but they also had him tagging with....Typhoon of all people too.

  6. On 2/18/2024 at 12:37 AM, For Great Justice said:

    Remembering when Big Show lost that tables match by accidentally stepping through one. Tag rope and closed fist are also good ones. 

    Was it Dax that said that in the WWE rule book there’s actually a rule about a maximum number of pin breakups in tag matches (I want to say 2?)? Has that ever been called?

    There was an IYH in late 95 where Razor and the Kid faced the Gunns for the tag titles. Finish was Razor had one beat, Kid insisted on tagging in, gets nuked, and Razor gets DQd for breaking up the pin too many times.

    I love that finish. Progressed the story really well and I don't know why they haven't recycled it beyond the requirement of retconning a rule not enforced for thirty years back into existence.

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  7. I thought the Bucks still wrestling in the suits from last week made Top Flight look shit.

    They aren't taking them seriously enough by not wearing their regular gear, and something that looks difficult to wrestle in instead, even though Top Flight beat them last time, and still win relatively easily. 

    Could have easily worn them to the ring with gear underneath and had same result without making Top Flight looking like enhancement talent.

  8. 4 hours ago, ExcellenceofAirPollution said:

    On the latest WOR with Dave & Garrett they were talking about a Russo booked SummerSlam where the main event was up in the air and constantly changing.  As they were talking I thought 99 which was the triple threat with Austin/HHH/Foley and there were rumors at the time that it was supposed to be Austin and HHH 1v1 but they put Foley in so Jesse Ventura could raise a babyface's hand (and to be the transition champ to HHH because Austin was being bitchy about losing to him)....but Dave ruled that out, says it wasn't 1999.

    They (mostly Dave) settled on 1998, which can't possibly be true.  In my memory that Highway to Hell went for a long time and there was never any doubt that Austin and Taker was the main event.

    Sooooo....if the story is actually true....it has to be 1997, right?  Wasn't Bret vs. Shawn on the books for that show at one point just like KOTR?  Stuff was changing constantly that year

    Yeah, it feels like 99 (there were also the rumours of having Chyna in the main event too), but also was Russo in WCW by then?

    Agreed it was a set main event in 1998, was Russo even booking by mid-1997? 

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  9. I think to justify having Seth involved, and put more heat on it, you have Rock/Bloodline either further injure Seth's knee that the title is vacated and up for grabs at Elimination Chamber (Rock best for businessing him and vacating it without doing anything also works), or they cost him the title at Elimination Chamber.

    Put the title on Drew, makes his match with Sami that much more relevant and you can justify their match on night one or two being a midcard whatever scenario if they choose to have Roman on both nights.

    Rollins/Cody vs Rock/Reigns seems the best use of limited Rock.

  10. I think the double turn was the right call but the way they went about it didn't really make a ton of sense.

    Swerve's beaten Hangman twice already. He didn't need the additional five minutes. Hangman was the one that needed to beat Swerve. Additionally the AEW rankings they put out had Swerve at #1 so the logic of him not getting a title shot for failing to beat Hangman wasn't there.

    Yeah, it gave everyone an excuse to boo Hangman but probably should have been leaned into as his self doubts manifesting that he couldn't beat Swerve and was ducking him, rather than trying to fuck with him or do the smart thing and hang onto a title shot he never had to begin with.

  11. I think the most interesting thing they can do is start the show by announcing Sami/Drew and then Rollins accepting the challenge of Gunther instead (maybe in response to Reigns' promo, and perhaps conceding that his title isnt as important, but it would be by beating the title reign that matters most), and leave Cody without too many options.

    But that would also render the Elimination Chamber highly irrelevant (unless you made it for the IC title).

  12. 13 hours ago, Johnny Sorrow said:

     

     

    Young Rock's worst historical inaccuracy was having "loveable comedic side character Bruno" not being one of those , "I'm not a racist, so I'm allowed to say racist shit" guys. 

    I dunno, Rocky Johnson's statutory rape charge and multiple similar accusations being glossed over as "took bookings in Saudi Arabia for a rival promoter" is hard to beat.

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  13. On 2/3/2024 at 10:20 AM, Phantom Lord said:

    I was thinking about this earlier. Suppose Triple H, Nick Khan, and Bruce Pritchard are forced out because of all this. Especially Triple H's role of head of creative, who would take over for him? 

    The true effectiveness of Jerry McDevitt is revealed when a transfer of power document for Jerry Jarrett circa 1994 is revealed to be still legally binding and all further creative meetings are just Dewey Foley working an ouija board.

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  14. 2 hours ago, tbarrie said:

    Why are they seemingly feuding with just the Best Friends, anyway? Didn't the Acclaimed-Bullet Club Gold thing start because they both wanted a piece of United Kingdom? But instead of uniting to face their common enemies, they've united to... do what, exactly?

    At least by contrast Hangman being put through a car windshield and deciding "ehh I'll focus on the world title instead" seems to make sense.

  15. If it weren't for Cody talking himself out of a Mania main event, we'd really be focusing a lot more on Adam Cole masterminding a year long plan to take the AEW World Title.....and give it to someone else, so him and his friends can focus on taking the midcard title from Orange Cassidy and feuding with The Best Friends.

  16. 50 minutes ago, Teflon Turtle said:

    The more I think about it, I’m not sure that Triple H is one of the “Corporate Officials” alluded to in the legal document.

    But, I can’t shake from my head the idea that there’s a non-zero chance that Triple H hasn’t read the complaint because he already knows what’s in it. And not even because he was directly involved. But…I’m supposed to believe that an investigation was done into the payments Vince made, but that his kids and son-in-law have no idea as to the specifics of why the payments were made in the first place?
     

    Hindsight is 20/20, but given the stuff Vince put on TV over the years, I’m also having trouble believing he’d be able to keep secrets if he was called out on the particulars of why it was so important to use millions in company funds in order to keep women silent about their affairs with him.

    I think if there was any possibility that he was: a) the document would go to painstaking lengths to identify him a lot more clearly (as they did with Lesnar), and b) if there was any scuttlebutt of that, media outlets would be running with that story that a current executive is heavily implicated to be involved in it.

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