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    The Termination of CM Punk by The Coward Tony Khan

    in ALL ELITE WRESTLING

    Posted

    I was kinda looking forward to a modern day Flair/Savage program with Adam Copeland, as watching him destroy Punk on the mic would have been the only acceptable use of him in 2024.

    Nonetheless, Dennis Rodman strap match please. Or if it is somehow a work, Punk returning with Shannen Doherty as his legal consultant with past experience of being victimised off the set by the Perry family also would be fantastic. Thank you.

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    All Out V - 9/3/2023

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    In hindsight, not only did the Rocky III storyline for Mox and Punk not work and subsequently was bad. It was totally wasted when it could have been used here.

    Mox destroying OC, leading to vignettes of the Best Friends trying to get OC to find the eye of the tiger, yet punching the meat and chasing chickens in the most lacklustre way possible would have been a far better result. 

    I see they're not too far from Philly for the Collision before Grand Slam. Have him taking his sweet time getting up the museum stairs throughout the entire show. Have it end with him finally getting to the top, half assedly raising his arms in the air and then sitting down again because he's too tired.

    Then he beats Mox at Grand Slam for the title back

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    Ask Octopus Anything

    in LAND OF CONFUSION

    Posted

    I had a dream last night where I, an adult male was riding a school bus, and a generic school bully started picking on the kid sitting next to me, so I stood up for him and challenged the bully to a fight after school (?!) and all the kids were super excited...but then started booing me because I was working shitty back rakes and lengthy chinlocks.

    Is this a sign?

     

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    Tennis

    in SPORTS

    Posted

    I'd really love a major tennis tournament to do away with the pretense of a random draw and book a tournament better than any North American promoter has booked a tournament in the past 25 years.

    Give McEnroe the wacky GM role. Completely lean into the sports entertainment space.

    Nothing fixed or predetermined in the actual matches, just clear storylines about what you want to eventuate, twitter beefs settled in the opening rounds, serial retirees punished with matches against dominant seeds, the equivalent of big meaty men slapping meat with servebots instead.

    AEW - AUGUST 2023

    in ALL ELITE WRESTLING

    Posted

    4 hours ago, zendragon said:

    A guy running around in a lion cloth pretending to be tarzan is on the fun indy pile of gimmicks like Luigio Primo and that Angry Vegan MJF wrestled. Jack Perry had more appeal on a national level

    Bryan Danielson copping strays here I see

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    WWE Network Conversation

    in WWE PROGRAMMING

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    On 8/21/2023 at 6:00 AM, SirSmUgly said:

    I think Guerrilla Monsoon is the one who noted this, but maaaaan did Vince just do an abrupt switch on all the stuff he'd been building for SummerSlam. I mean "abrupt" as in "in mid-July."

    It's looking like we're getting:

    • Bret Hart vs. Shawn Michaels (Intercontinental Championship match)
    • The Natural Disasters vs. Money Inc. (Tag Championship match)
    • The Beverly Brothers vs. The Road Warriors
    • Nasty Boys vs. High Energy
    • Rick Martel vs. Tatanka
    • British Bulldog vs. Repo Man
    • The Mountie vs. Sgt. Slaughter
    • The Undertaker vs. The Berzerker
    • Ultimate Warrior vs. Papa Shango
    • Randy Savage vs. Ric Flair (WWF World Championship match)

    Once we hit mid-July, Vince does a quick tag title switch, but then also flip-flops the feud partners rather than running a Disasters/Money Inc. rematch. Shawn Michaels involves himself in a Bret/Martel match to switch HBK into a short-term feud with Martel and to free up Bulldog for Bret. 

    We end up getting:

    • The Natural Disasters vs. The Beverly Brothers (Tag Championship match)
    • Money Inc. vs. The Road Warriors
    • Rick Martel vs. Shawn Michaels
    • Bret Hart vs. British Bulldog
    • Crush vs. Repo Man
    • The Undertaker vs. Kamala
    • Randy Savage vs. Ultimate Warrior (WWF World Championship match)
    • Nailz vs. Virgil

    Watching those '92 Superstars shows, the switch-up is so abrupt, it's crazy. Obviously, running Bret/Bulldog was the right call, and Bret/Bulldog + Disasters/Beverlys were both very good, but the TV feels utterly disjointed in the run-up to the show because it drops months of build in a hot second. 

    This card also doesn't have Flair wrestling on it; it's an odd bit of trivia (to me) that Flair didn't wrestle a SummerSlam match until 2002 (against Chris Jericho). You can see the utter dearth of upper card babyfaces in this company. Was Hogan shooting a movie or something? The obvious move is to give him a bunch of money to finally have that singles match with Ric Flair at this show. 

    Even though running Bret/Bulldog necessitates changes to Martel/Tatanka, Repo/Bulldog, and  Bret/HBK. I'm not sure why it was also necessary to switch Berzerker out for Kamala against the Undertaker or to suddenly flip-flop the tag teams in the Beverlys/Road Warriors/Disasters/Money Inc. feuds. You could just run a rematch for the tag titles and blow off this dumb "sissy" shit between the Road Warriors and the Beverlys. The matches that we got ended up being aesthetically superior, I'll say that. 

    If the idea was that the Beverlys were going to lose to the Road Warriors and would be insufficient dance partners for the Disasters as their next title feud, just having lost a feud to the Road Warriors, the Nasty Boys can slot into that role as title challengers until October, when Money Inc. gets the gold back...which is what they did anyway, IIRC. Anyway, I have no clue why they blew up the tag match pairings except that Vince wanted matches that were as good as possible. Which, hey, I like that too, but book in that direction in the first place, maybe. 

    Anyway, I would have run this card:

    • Bret Hart vs. British Bulldog (Intercontinental Championship match)
    • The Natural Disasters vs. Money Inc. (Tag Championship match)
    • The Beverly Brothers vs. The Road Warriors
    • Rick Martel vs. Shawn Michaels
    • Tatanka vs. The Mountie
    • The Undertaker vs. The Berzerker
    • Ultimate Warrior vs. Papa Shango [ed. note: This would have stunk, but a) it was set up for months, and b) maybe with enough stupid gaga, it's a fun sort of stink]
    • Randy Savage vs. Ric Flair (WWF World Championship match)

    I'm sure there's something that I don't know about the booking of this thing that someone will tell me necessitated the weird card changes, though. 

    On another note, it's too bad we didn't get the Steiners and Quebecers into the company quickly enough to run those teams vs. the Natural Disasters. We only got Beverly Brothers/Steiners. 

     

    My guess was how unreliable LOD had become that necessitated taking the belts off them. 

    I agree with your tag title match (and essentially doing the Headshrinker debut and title switch that happened on TV anyway).

    Two face vs face matches at the top of the card was overkill. Savage vs Warrior was only going to work if Savage was getting his win back, and you intended Savage to be getting a long run with the title. 

    Again, they could have run the Flair title switch here with the assist from Razor (or Perfect).

    Was listening to STWW the other day re this timeframe and apparently they were desperately trying to resurrect the ratings of Prime Time and Superstars by running all these random title switches and big moments, before giving up and instead trying to get Raw greenlit instead.

     

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    WWE Network Conversation

    in WWE PROGRAMMING

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    On 8/18/2023 at 3:24 PM, Cobra Commander said:

    WWF Monday Night Raw (7/24/1995)

    Last night, Shawn Michaels won the Intercontinental Title

    Shawn Michaels vs Jimmy Del Ray: We got Cornette and Prichard in the corner of Jimmy Del Ray. Always nice to see a matchup where 90s Shawn Michaels is the less creepy of the competitors. Jimmy Del Ray bumps around for a few minutes, takes control, misses a splash, and HBK takes over, superkicks Prichard off the apron and superkicks Del Ray to win. The Louisville Gardens looks likely smaller than I was expecting. Postmatch HBK teases getting his ass out. Our hero!

    There's a really good Shawn vs Tom match on Superstars before this match happening. Definitely recommend.

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    August 2023 Wrestling Discussion

    in The PROFESSIONAL WRESTLING

    Posted

    2 hours ago, Elsalvajeloco said:

    I think a lot of what hurt WWF in that period ('92-'95) is they just refused to allow folks to get clean wins over other top talent on TV. They were still clinging to clean victories on happen on special occasions or on PPV. That or if someone is on the way out. That's it. Someone had to slip on a banana peel or some fuckery had to occur. I mean sometimes you can have the fuckery, and the fans still pop for the win (ex. the overly long Crush-Tatanka lumberjack match on Raw where the fans went crazy at the end). However, as they would soon learn, you don't have to feel like you're giving something away if you have someone go over clean. You don't need someone to be two rungs down for them to lose.

    100%

    It's just insane watching upper midcard guys struggle to get any momentum while protecting Jerry Sags or Quebecer Pierre. Especially when there's so little for them to do in a three belt company.

    Conversely I think there's an over reliance on squash matches to keep guys looking strong too. Useful to showcase debuting talent or that they've had a face/heel turn, not sure why Scott Hall is still coming out and beating up Iron Mike Sharpe in 1995.

    At the same time though, you look at that early 2010s period where they went the extreme other way and everything had to be fifty fifty.

    Remember that random Cage/Page match on Dynamite where everyone thought that they might strongly push unpredictable finishes? That was a nice idea.

     

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    August 2023 Wrestling Discussion

    in The PROFESSIONAL WRESTLING

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    Still on my 95 Superstars run.

    Trying to remember when the transition was made from the top faces never winning cleanly on TV unless they were the champ or facing a job guy. Watching the Bulldog, Crush, Luger etc really became the chokers they were considered to be not just because of the main misses but so many Superstars matches where they couldn't be put over Tatanka or Bundy any more convincingly than with a countout win.

    That Sid turn on Shawn after Mania was terribly played out. The face pop for Sid attacking him is huge. They edit or mute the sound in the replay just like Hogan at the Rumble. Even when Diesel makes the save all these people in the crowd cheering for Sid to powerbomb him again are still somewhat "....ehh?" about it all.

     

    August 2023 Wrestling Discussion

    in The PROFESSIONAL WRESTLING

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    I remember that promo. Very underrated.

    Some of that program was pretty good. The actual heel turn/Savage beatdown where he bites his tongue getting dropped on the guardrail and just takes a massive shit kicking was fun.

    The concept was stupid because they just randomly shoehorned Savage as his close best friend in like a week before the Yokozuna match. 

    The slow burn in hindsight is pretty cool - I only recently saw the spot on the USS Intrepid where they had him get Yokozuna off the ground only for his back to go out. Getting punked by Doink for an entire year. Hooking up with his old manager Fuji made total sense.

    I loved that Falls Count Anywhere match as a kid. Made no sense logically but thought it also gave Crush a few visual pinfalls over Savage in the process. They seemed really committed to building him as a major heel until his legal issues. Having him beat Bret on Raw weeks before Mania 10 was certainly a choice.

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    August 2023 Wrestling Discussion

    in The PROFESSIONAL WRESTLING

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    One of the big talking points for why Vince blackballed Savage was that he took the Slim Jim's advertising deal with him to WCW.

    Watching Superstars in early 95 and the ads, now featuring Nash and Bam Bam, if anything have increased.

    Also makes me wonder what they'd have done with him creatively had he returned as rumoured around Survivor Series 96. There doesn't seem to be anything obvious.

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