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  1. 6 hours ago, Curt McGirt said:

    I liked Andretti pushing the pace at the start of the open, he didn't give Sammy a second to breathe. Good work. The knee counter that shut him down was nasty. Andretti almost didn't make the table spot which is always appreciated for realism's sake. 

    Jack Cartwheel's gear reminded me of Danshoko Dieno. 

    The Lard Lad/Vance match could have been better but was still alright, liked the finish not being a big knee. The Blue Thunder Bomb being an eternal two-count everywhere when it would have been straight death in the '80s amuses me. 

    There is no way Tony is gonna stick the Lucha Bros in ROH. 

    Riho/Nyla was their typical great match. The Outcasts ignore Nyla who is an OG I guess out of heel solidarity?

     

    Or maybe they're just scared of Nyla and Shafir cause they're big, mean, and nasty?  That's how I saw it.

     

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  2. 2 hours ago, Cobra Commander said:

    the options for Luchasaurus if his mask is in legal limbo are either..

    1) get a new mask

    or

    2) do the Luchasaurus equivalent to Joseph Park/Ezekiel and have Luchasaurus' "brother" feuding with Jungle Boy

     

    I'd settle for putting him in a bodysuit and using him as like a Masked Thundertenderfoot on Dark,

    Luchasaurus does nothing for me, especially without the gimmick.

     

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  3. I loved seeing all the cribbing MJF was doing with territorial stars, and even Jay White.  I had two matches make it to my all-time great list tonight.   This might have been the best AEW PPV.


    Mox/Page was a well-told, well-earned story as well.  The only real mediocre match on the card was Wardlow/Joe, and that was perfectly servicable, and in a spot no one was going to pop for more due to being worn out, so that was fine.

    They paced the card out well.

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  4. 2 hours ago, Belgian_Waffle said:

    I wrote a gargantuan block of text both praising but mostly nitpicking tonight's show that apparently got lost in the ether before it could be posted. 

    I won't bother trying to rewrite it but some bullet points: 

    - I liked Jungle Boy. The more he becomes Jack Perry, especially Badass Jack Perry, he's just another boring dude who can't talk. The last thing a company that already employs Juice Robinson needs is just another boring dude who can't talk. 

    - If Andretti turns and joins the JAS I hope they are least going to try to come up with an explanation for why him and Sammy beat the shit out of each other tonight if he was turning the whole time 

    - Did Eddie disappear during the ladder match and if so is he okay

    - Wardlow probably shouldn't lose to Joe again. But Hobbs shouldn't lose to anybody right now. Another corner successfully painted into. 

    - the HOB beatdown at the beginning of the show needed more time and a promo. The way it was done felt rushed and tacked on. The HOB promo at the end helped but they should have at least tried to come up with an explanation for why the Elite were coming out for no reason. 

    - especially given that the show ended with Orange Cassidy getting booked in sunday's tag title match they probably should have just put the All Atlantic belt on Big Bill 

    - women's match was real good especially since Riho won. Toni Storm is solid and has that awesome hip attack but she needs a charismatic tag partner or something. As a top singles she's just too devoid of personality, even before this questionable heel turn. 

    I remain excited for the ppv although I hope we get more focused booking coming out of it. 

    Edit: forgot my main point. Why are Claudio and Yuta heeling it up vs the Dark Order while also ostensibly being the babyface singles champs for ROH?

     

    Juice is actually a better talker then wrestler- he just needs to go back to 2018 even if it means the dreads again.  Check Juice vs Jay White feud- that was underrated feud of the year in NJPW, and he had great promos from that in Cow Palace and G1.

     

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  5. On 2/11/2023 at 9:26 PM, Teflon Turtle said:
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    This was a good event. A few of you shared some of the thoughts I had already, to wit (I wish the "@" system was still working so I could give all of you proper credit):

    - The Styles Clash getting a pop whenever someone from Bullet Club uses it. The fans' appreciation for that Bullet Club history is impressive. AJ has not wrestled in New Japan for a pretty long time now, measurable in years...but the fans always react instantly to the move and that it is part of the story in these matches. 

    - I agree that Tama and ELP had a very enjoyable match, overall. Tama has either improved or is simply taking good advantage of having a bit more time in the spotlight now. Phantasmo has, to me, always been pretty fun in New Japan. He's making the most of his spot too. 

    - Evil Otto's point that Jay went out of his way to make Hikuleo look good was something I thought as well. Maybe the best point made about this event so far. I've made it no secret that I think Jay White is excellent and I count myself as a fan of his. There were a few spots where he just bumped like crazy for Hikuleo here. I cringed where Jay just flung himself into the corner headfirst with reckless abandon to highlight the size and strength difference present in the match. Overall, it was a decently absorbing match considering how slow the pace was compared to some other stuff on the card. 

    Some thoughts of my own:

    I liked how Jay fist-bumped Tanahashi on his way out. Stylistically, I have in recent years seen a lot of similarities between the two in terms of ring IQ. To me, Jay is like a "darkside Tanahashi:" basically what Tana would be if he had no morals whatsoever. Beyond everything, it wouldn't shock me to hear that Tana was a huge influence on Jay. In-story, they are linked for all wrestling history whether the Switchblade likes it or not, so that moment was cool to see on a few levels.

    (Also...Tana's out here looking like a deathmatch wrestler. I had no idea he had lost 2-3 front teeth.)

    To me, there is maybe more to the Jay White/NJPW story yet to come. He's booked for the San Jose show. If NJPW is looking for someone to anchor their U.S. shows around, they could do worse than building it around Jay; I am not sure he's leaving NJPW entirely yet. If his deal with NJPW is well and truly up after San Jose, then selfishly, I would prefer it if he'd stay out of WWE. I think there are better matchups for him in AEW, yet I get the feeling he'd maybe be lost in the shuffle there in terms of story. Some of my more self-indulgent fantasy booking: I kind of want him to show MJF who the real devil is and make a splash by taking the AEW championship, but there's practically no way a heel/heel story like that is what AEW winds up going for. 

    Takagi/Okada match up so well together. It was, for sure, an NJPW "main event epic." But, those two do not miss a beat when they are wrestling one another. Like a few of the rest of you have written, I'm hoping NJPW heard that crowd reaction for Shingo and are open to having him have another run with the world championship. He has earned it. 

    It seems to me that where the stories in NJPW are going would be Ospreay taking the championship from Okada either later this year or at the start of 2024 at the next Wrestle Kingdom. However, if Takagi maintains the frankly unbelievable standard of consistent quality that he's been on...he should really be next in line after that, and he has a history with Ospreay too. It would make sense to have the title then go back to him for a bit if Will really is up next.

     

     

     

    Jay was Tana's young lion and his big support before Shota filled that role.   The influence can really be seen, and the two of them are linked heavily.

    As for AEW , who says Jay can't be a face there?  I think Jay would make an excellent face.  I'm not 100% convinced the NJPW story for Jay is over yet either.

     

  6. 42 minutes ago, HumanChessgame said:

    I agree with Billy not turning on The Acclaimed being the bigger swerve considering how much people were predicting it would happen. The Ass Boys cheated to win after a good bunch of chicanery and it was the perfect way for a heel team to steal the belts. The Acclaimed are hot enough that they'll stay over even after losing, and people will get behind their path to regain the belts and hopefully get more heat on the Gunns every time they weasel out of defending them or cheat to retain them. Unless they drop the belts back in the next few weeks, which would be kind of on brand for AEW.

    When Starks rolled through 2.0 I thought for sure he was going to win but nope, he's still carrying that boulder that is Chris Jericho up the hill every week.

    Did MJF confess to vehicular manslaughter? At least I think he suggested he wrecked while drunk and getting road head, then covered up what really happened. The match with Takeshita was one of the best matches I think he's had. I'd put that up as an example of anyone who thinks he can't wrestle.

     

    Nope, hit a lightpole, and then framed his girlfriend for it.  Crime, but not a felony, statute of limitations expired on it too, he's in the clear.

     

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  7. 4 hours ago, Belgian_Waffle said:

    Fwiw I actively disliked Page for the longest time and didn't like their second match at all but the 60 min draw was the match that really opened my eyes to Page's good qualities, especially when he has the right opponent to direct some of the traffic. His Takeshita match was also excellent from a Hangman-skeptical perspective. 

     

    Hangman is a bomb thrower to me.  Kinda like a heavyweight spot money, not as bad as Brian Cage, and does have an idea of psychology, but his pacing is just off.  I'd love an extended Hangman/Jay White feud just so Jay can reel him in.  

    Hangman and 80s Lex Luger could be comparable in some ways, both were really good when they didn't have to carry the match, but when they had to lead, it wasn't good when Lex did it (Hangman is more of a mixed bag)

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  8. 4 hours ago, The Natural said:

    Is it too early to say Jamie Hayter is the best AEW Women's World Champion ever? The match with Toni Storm to begin her reign, Hikaru Shida and Emi Sakura were all great. Looking forward to Hayter's rematch with all three. Hikaru Shida had a great year long reign and I really liked Dr. Britt Baker's run more than some also.

     

    I still vote for Shida, but Hayter's already #2, and if her reign lasts a bit longer she'll be #1.

     

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  9. 13 minutes ago, Andrew POE! said:

    Yeah, that's my sentiment as well. Brian Cage had a better match (for him) but it was still terrible for Danielson or anyone else. Brian Cage is honestly suited as a tag team wrestler (he needs a Barbarian to his Warlord) or jobber squash matches on Dark / Dark Elevation / Whatever ROH does. He has the look, the size, but holy shit does he not have the wrestling ability. Vince McMahon would have stuck him in a Brawling Brutes like faction with John Morrison & The Miz.

    He did target the arm of Danielson throughout the match despite not having a submission finisher (I mean I guess he could have gone for the Fujiwara armbar, but why?).

    I will say though....no one gets seriously injured wrestling him.

     

    MJF wanted Danielson's arm injured and offered Cage a bounty if he injured it.

     

    As for Mark's partner, I'd ask NJPW for Yano, given their history as 6-man champs.    Either that, or

  10. On 1/11/2023 at 7:29 AM, Thunder Down Under said:

    I hate to sound like Bischoff, but this is such a  lazy take. While it was a somewhat unsatisfactory ending in hindsight (certainly not as a 10 year old watching live), a clean decisive Sting win would’ve meant no rematch at SuperBrawl, and a Hall/Sting main event (or any other combo except maybe bringing Sting/Savage forward 2 months) would’ve done worse numbers than the rematch actually did. 

    Even if you accept the questionable “He’s not tanned, Brother” reason, pivoting away and not even having the match WOULD have been way worse than what they actually did. Certainly by Uncensored 97 it was clear fans wanted Sting to be the one to take down Hogan and Starrcade always made the most sense for that from that point. Luger/Giant/Bret/Flair would’ve all been a let down in that spot, and would’ve had to likely to the job to keep Hogans big title loss for when Sting was eventually ready. Dragging out their first confrontation until 1998 likely would’ve cooled it off even more and we would most likely be pointing to that delay as being the reason for the death of the company.

    But back to the wider point, their PPV buyrates and TV ratings show there was very little negative effect on business as a result of the finish of Starrcade 97 (or 98 for that matter). It’s hard to think it killed business when Goldberg hadn’t even started his rise at that point. The summer and fall of 99 is when the real drop offs for ratings and buy rates happened, with the end of Russo v1.0 driving the final nail in the coffins with fans. I’d still argue everything was still salvageable up until Havoc/Starrcade 99. Fans would’ve still gotten behind Goldberg as late as Havoc 99, but he still would’ve needed a strong heel/group of heels to work with afterwards. Funnily enough, Bischoff leading a group of heels is probably the best possible story they could’ve told at that point, but clearly not a realistic option considering Russo hadn’t failed at that point.

    I actually don’t mind what Russo’s initial plan seemed to be (again except I’d have had Goldberg stay champ after Havoc 99 and still do a Sid rematch at Mayhem as a title match and just switch make the tourney to a No 1 contenders match instead of vacant title tourney), which really does seem like it was cruelled by injury to Goldberg right when it was getting started. I don’t know that it would’ve necessarily turned business around to the point they were challenging Vince, but it may have kept their ratings attractive enough as a TV property to make it worthwhile for a different buyer.

     

    You had plenty of choices for Sting at SuperBrawl.  Bret as the obvious one, Nash- start the Wolfpac a bit early, Raven would be interesting if you built him up.

     

  11. On 1/19/2023 at 8:30 PM, elizium said:

    I wonder if they regret putting Jade in that Casino Battle Royal? Since they count tag matches for her record, its weird they don't count that as a loss. Upholding the great wrestling tradition of ignoring shit that doesn't fit the narrative.

     

    They've never counted battle royals as losses.

     

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  12. 2 minutes ago, Andrew POE! said:

    Caught Darby Allin vs. Kushida. I wish it went longer but that was probably one of Allin's better matches. He sold the fuck outta the arm and I liked his Scorpion Deathlock into a cradle pin (he needs a name for it honestly).

    MJF said a bunch of words that I saw on Twitter and I don't care. Most of the Twitter comments were like "whatever, when are you gonna wrestle MJF?" or "when's Moxley getting the title back?" Honestly, he needs to just stop doing promos since he's supposedly an 'attraction' (like a car wreck on the side of the road type). His promos need to come once in awhile if at all. Otherwise, they are going to overstay their welcome and not be special anymore since he talks every week.

    I guess TK told him that people were pissed about his making fun of Takeshita last week and just said don't come out and to stay backstage. I would have hated for MJF to have dressed down Bandido about where he's from and stole something else from YouTube (probably Ernie Ladd's comment about Mr. Wrestling II wearing a mask and 'only criminals wear masks' and applying it to Bandido).

     

    It's the Last Supper and it's his secondary finish.

     

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  13. 13 hours ago, hammerva said:

    Man I knew they were loved locally but closing schools?  I mean that is Von Erich adoration for a hometown wrestling superstar 

     

    From the sounds of it he was also the middle school football coach there and the kids are in bad shape. 

     

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  14. 6 hours ago, Pete said:

    Punk has always been a very uneasy babyface at best... and that's from the horse's mouth. He's said he never wears the white hat well, even though the fans almost always go for him. Page OTOH is as natural a babyface as we've had come down the pipeline in years.

     

    I do think AEW is in a danger zone with Hangman- he's starting to git of Naito's smell in the not really winning the big one.  He has to go over Mox, maybe even give Mox his well-earned vacation.

    Maybe a Loser Leaves for 30-90 days stip to their next match, perhaps after Hangman gives Mox a concussion, and TK gets tired of them interfering with each other?

     

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  15. 2 hours ago, Casey said:

    We’ve been through this before. Plenty of people took notice of the worker’s rights comment from Page because it was out of the blue, and did not fit the build up to the match (since there hardly was any). There were mentions of it in the thread for Dynamite that night.

     

    Most of those mentions were wonderring if someone was turning heel, and thought it was in-character if one of them was turning heel.

     

     

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  16. 1 hour ago, Matt D said:

    If you honestly want to understand why someone might like Punk and dislike Page and especially like that match, I wrote about it.

    http://segundacaida.blogspot.com/2022/05/aew-five-fingers-of-death-week-of-523_31.html

    I think I explained myself fairly thoroughly there. You're free to disagree, but if you really care enough to post about it and really do want to understand, take the time to read about it. If you're being earnest about things, I'm happy to explain further, though I already have a lot.

     

    I read that and it's why I like Hangman.   Doesn't necessarily mean I dislike Punk's in-ring style, even if I think he lacks athleticism and is sloppy, he tells good stories too in a different way.  They both do to me.

     

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