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also Kota Ibushi is still an indeterminate object.
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That's one thing you can say for AEW, so many of the wrestlers are really good role models in person, even if they play heels.
Hangman, Brody, Jay White, Kenny Omega, others- they all seem like really good people.
In a society that is outright evil, one so bad I'll probably be leaving this country for good soon, we really need those good role models. (and you might be getting some really obscure lucha reviews if that happens)
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2 hours ago, Go2Sleep said:
AITA was really good. I don't know that they needed to let Bodies loop 3 times, but otherwise it was a perfect blend of comedy and violence. The Bucks were great stooging in their Continental Army getup, and I'm So Excited getting a music spot was great. Willow getting padlocked to the ring post through her gauged ear did not get enough focus. Swerve's staple gun-fu is always a blast, and the staple to the tongue was some fresh cringe. Briscoe driving the ambulance back to lock up the DRs and leave the stooging Bucks to get theirs was a good layout. The OWA through an exploding table being an afterthought was hilarious.
Hanger/Ospreay was great as expected, and didn't seem to run excessively long, refreshingly simple even. I liked the touch with each trying to finish with a move from their biggest rival, showing what they've learned through their epic battles. Hanger winning is cool and somewhat unexpected. Big question is what does Ospreay do at All In now?
Got to watch this with the wifey at home, which never happens. My wife was pleading with willow not to rip her lobe out. Rings especailly true given how much trouble she had with her last piercing. (That said, if you're in the Triad part of NC, and need a piercer, full rec for Sarah Starling at Restful Souls in Archdale, NC)
We both loved the show, though wifey did fall asleep a few times because she gets to be a tired puppy given her job. She loved Toni/Mina and the kiss at the end, and the other women's match. She loved Hangman winning, as Hangman's her favorite.
I was really happy with the show all around, it was a great mix of stuff, but like all AEW PPVs, a bit too much of a good thing, but that's not really a complaint about AEW as much as it is a complaint about me. I was kinda hoping for a different story from Hangman-Ospreay of Hangman overcoming his demons, but the story they did tell was really good and earned. I wonder where Ospreay goes from here. Hangman needs to win at All In, and I think he does. If they let Mox win to hold it for Darby, I think it's going to hurt Darby as the fans will reject his win.
Darby really should be AEW's Goto- he needs to keep losing title matches.
I'm also wondering where HOOK goes from here, he seemed unhappy with the Opps upgrading from him, but I don't think a heel turn would suit him, and Hook and Hobbs have history too.
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Question for folks. My wife really, really loves Saya Kamatani now (not as much as Toni or Hangman, but she's up there!). Can anyone recommend some other wrestlers who are like Saya if such a thing is possible that I can look up?
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23 hours ago, username said:
If you want someone to actually move up someone else generally has to move down. If you try to protect everyone you really don't push anyone.
EDIT: This also causes the "if we let them look competitive all the time then we don't ever have to actually let them win and they'll still be fine!" flawed thinking that AEW mightily struggles with at times.Also someone going "5 minute match = automatically bad" hurt my heart a good bit.
I think this is intentional booking on TK's part. He figures if someone can stay over in losing, they have enough value to invest in when you want to have them win. Kevin Knight's currently in that role, and he'll end up in a good place.
JTTS's in AEW tend to either fit into this trope (which has worked well- some guys have gotten mad over due to this- Darby, Takeshita, Swerve, Willow, Stat, Bandido) or Monsters of the Week whose job it is to squash folks until they need to lose to someone who is being pushed.
With 4 hours of TV every week, you can only have so many pushed talents, no matter how many deserve it.
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I have doubts TK would use Naito given how bad his showings at Forbidden Door have been, but I'd like to see him at the Arena Mexico show on the 18th, perhaps a tag match with BUSHI vs Bandido and Gravity, and then a Forbidden Door match vs Bandido for the ROH belt would be a nice sending off.
Bandido has shown with the Jericho feud he can carry washed-up vets.
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Neither. It was just a passionate fan, and I was happy for everyone involved. I've seen this with my wife- who is a very new wrestling fan (we each took a hobby from his other- she got wrestling, I got Night Lords!), and the Toni/Mariah/Mina stuff means a lot to her, and I was glad I was able to take her somewhere to meet Toni and Mina before we flee America in the next several months (hopefully).
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4 hours ago, Craig H said:
He'll feud with Jay White, which when I was younger, the trope of someone's friend accidentally hitting them leading to dissension and then a feud was fine. Now that I'm out of my teen years, it's the dumbest fucking bullshit imaginable. Like, if my friend accidentally hit me, I wouldn't start doubting them. That's why I liked what the Young Bucks and FTR have done as a tag team because there have been a bunch of times where those teams have accidentally hit their teammates and they didn't get pissy with each other because of it. They all also have the benefit of watching this shit back. But clearly we're going to get Edge and White feuding, which at least will make White a heel again.
If they feud, I wouldn't be surprised if the fans turn on Cope and cheer Jay.
It wouldn't be hard to do it that way. Jay needs to be protected right now as a future challenger, I'd only do the Cope feud if Cope's gonna put him over clean.
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Given how hot Toni vs Mariah is and how not hot Mox vs Cope is, unless you've got a ton of crazy overbooking in that match , Toni vs Mariah should be the main.
I suspect Mox vs Cope has at least 2 folks or briefcase cash-ins turn between the start of the match and the PPV, which would make it hard not to main.
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3 hours ago, The Green Meanie said:
Why exactly would Jericho be helping Don Callis after being attacked when he attempted to join the family?
Daniel Garcia dumps 2.0 to bring in FTR and still loses. Are the FTRunners still a thing? How about Rated FTR?
Interesting that Pac gets two chairshots but Marina and Claudio only got one each. I really think they should have gotten Yuta instead, and saved Claudio for the mini-boss spot.
Tony Schiavone was unhinged on commentary tonight and I'm all for it.Excalibur said the first one was flat out money on commentary. As for FTRunners, title shot chance > random 6-man, and Garcia and FTR are friends from Collision a few months ago.
Got a feeling Yuta betrays Mox at Revolution.
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I have my doubts on that. Folks are competitive, wrestling is competitive, and being a jobber can limit you. That said, it is part of going up the chain, I can understand veterans being less willing to job than up and comers, it's hard to confront your limits and your mortality- and know you're not going to be the top guy.
That said, it is a self-destructive mentality, and TK has shown folks who can job really well do get more opportunities, and those folks usually succeed (see Swerve, Harley Cameron, and even Eddie Kingston for this)
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28 minutes ago, NoFistsJustFlips said:
I'm really curious to thr logistical reasons they had to use an 18 foot ring for this one vs the 20 foot ring they normally use. Takeshita & Omega botched that reverse rana purely because of spacing issues. The smaller ting might not be a thing that every fan recognizes immediately, but for those that do it's pretty jarring. Odd to see a major national promotion using someone else's ring.
It was a solid episode of TV. But man I'd be mad I paid epic stadium ppv prices for tickets to get switched over into just a Collision episode. That crowd was great for the event. But man those videos of them booing TK have got to sting lol.
Thought Harley was able to hang with Mercedes pretty well. She's certainly gained respect in my book for putting the work in and rising above what I thought her ceiling was going to be. Can we get Mercedes vs Athena already please?
Mariah May was over as a baby face. This heel run kinda turned into the shits. She wasn't over. Her matches weren't great. She was an after thought as champion. Just a swing and a miss all around. Maybe a baby face turn and mixing it up with Athena (who takes the TBS off of Mercedes) would be a good direction for her. Move Mercedes up already. I don't understand these RVD TV Title reigns TK does. The world title is for your top stars. Not slumming it with the secondary titles. (Mercedes, Athena, Ospreay, Okada, etc).
Enjoyable show. But AEW still feels so far away from something hot that it doesn't matter how good the show was. The vibes are off and we need to shift gears and try new people on top and try new tv & booking formulas out in my opinion.
Kinda don't agree on Harley- yet.
Just watched the match, and I was watching a little more critically then I normally do. Harley looked rough on offense. You could see hesitation on a lot of her advanced stuff, very similar to Anna pre-Stardom run. Harley has the entertainment down, and will always have value in AEW because of that, but she could be a lot, lot more.
What Harley needs after this is a few tours of Japanese joshi indies where she can get a lot of work- I don't think she'd be a particularly good fit for Stardom right now, I don't think her in-ring is up to that standard, and I don't think the Stardom style would suit her anyways. Give Harley to Emi for this year. Mone did a really really good job of keeping things together.
This isn't being overly harsh on Harley, she's doing well for her experience level, on par with Anna I think. This is a critical year for her development, she needs as many reps as she can get right now, even if it means keeping her off TV a bit at times.
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You can easily make a debate on Okada, but Jay and Ospreay have clearly been valuable to AEW. Ospreay is one of their most over stars, and Jay has had a lot of great matches, kept things together, and held together booking during the whole Punk mess by being the Collision Cowboy. Jay's been very snakebitten in his AEW run with Punk bullshit, injuries to partners, and MJF's injury making him look like a chump at Full Gear 2023.
Jay's gotten over as a face too, which I'm not surprised at but I know folks weren't expecting it.
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18 hours ago, tbarrie said:
I know. I was playing straight man. MAKE WITH THE PUNCH LINE!
I admire you for saying this. But honestly, I wasn't being circuitous and using "a certain portion of the AEW audience" as longhand for "me". I wouldn't precisely count myself as part of that portion. (I was actually thinking of explicitly mentioning Gordi, but I wasn't sure if he still read the AEW threads and thought it would be weird to name-drop him behind his back.) Personally, I'm kind of in the middle on the issue.
To provide some context - back in the early days of AEW, I was one of the guys arguing that they shouldn't be afraid to do an unclean finish now and then. Used right, they're useful storytelling tools. But they're also something that's much easier to overuse than underuse, and I lean towards thinking they've shifted to overusing them in the last year or two. So having some matches where a clean finish is virtually guaranteed is a nice thing.
But now I'm going to argue against my own point and wonder if the Continental title even has much of a "no bullshit" aura any more. I mean, they've stuck to the "no interference" thing, but how many matches in the second Classic were decided by a low blow behind the ref's back? And is that noticeably better than a second interfering to decide a match?
I'm ok with cheating that's not caught by the ref. That's part of a heel's trade. It's when they just ignore that the rule exists that it's a problem.
BritWres could get a ton of miles out of a hair pull or a closed fist. I want rules, and I want refs who will enforce what they see, but I want wrestlers to be able to sometimes get one over on the ref.
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The implication is that you get fired if you interfere, similar to Pure Rules in ROH. So folks aren't going to risk it.
That said, I would have someone interfere and get caught, and get fired, if they were on the way out. You could also do a Midnight Rider with this.
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Starks in a way, feels like of all people Nick Aldis. I think he's great in a smaller promotion- he'd be a top guy in Impact, but I think he gets lost in the shuffle of an AEW or WWE. His shtick needs wins to really be effective to me, guys who can get over in the mega promotions kinda have to get over while being able to not get pushed.
I do think highly of Ricky's ability, he's a knowledgable guy who works hard and is solid in the ring. I just don't think his package is enough for what he wants.
The Starks/Hobbs pairing in a smaller AEW was the best for him.
BTW in sadder news Juice Robinson is hurt. Was on crutches at Wrestlecade. That said, Toni was there, and she thought I had potential when talking to my wife (who is new to wrestling fandom and had the time of her life!)
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45 minutes ago, Ziggy said:
All they have to do is build the division around more than just one or two teams. I gave up a long time ago on both AEW and WWE doing it. Even a Vinceless WWE. When AEW started, I thought it would be more of a tag team division friendly promotion but it’s no different than WWE.
The Trios belts hurt this I think. As did the pandemic talent influx. 2019 AEW Tag division was really good. It feels like what would have been tag depth now revolves around Trios belt.
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They should have called an audible on the Jay/MJF match and either had Jay win, or Joe screw over Jay with a DQ.
It wrecked Jay hard. Joe had a very logical reason to run in for the DQ too with his guaranteed shot at MJF but not Jay.
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On 10/10/2024 at 5:56 AM, The Natural said:
Thought this could be fun, which AEW belts would you put on whom and which would you get rid off?
Here's mine:
AEW World Championship: Bryan Danielson.
AEW TNT Championship: Brody King.
AEW International Championship: Claudio Castagnoli.
AEW World Tag Team Championship: FTR.
AEW Women's Championship: Jamie Hayter.
AEW TBS Championship: Athena.
Get rid:
AEW World Trios Championship.
AEW Continental Championship. I miss the visual of the Continental Championship, ROH World Championship and NJPW Strong Championship.
AEW World: Bryan then Takeshita
AEW TNT: Garcia. This belt gets the open challenge rule. Win 10 open challenges, you get a world title shot guaranteed.
AEW Crown (combine it with the ROH and International Belts, make it an internal triple crown fought under Continental rules): Hangman then Jay. Holding the Crown at year's end gives you a title shot the next year anytime you want a week in advance if the champion isn't scheduled already. If the Champion wins, the crown goes away until the next C2.
The C2 is always a field of the Champion, the top 10 contenders who wish to enter, and the winner of a last chance battle royal.
AEW Tag: The Gunns
AEW Trios: Top Flight and Lio Rush.
AEW Women's Tag: Tayjay when Tay returns
AEW Women's : Willow
AEW TBS: Athena
The other ROH belts would be pure developmental belts, or dropped.
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The C2 showed the evolution of what the dance was for Garcia. Garcia is legit the closest thing AEW has to a successful NJPW homegrown from Young Lion talent with the evolution of his gimmick from rookie to midcarder to perhaps something more who wasn't a 2018-9 signing,
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Archer was too busy beating up jobbers in the back.
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7 hours ago, Craig H said:
I’m my entire life of watching wrestling from 4 until now, so like 40 freaking years, I have always, ALWAYS hated the double pin whether if it was like that Ricochet and Ospreay did or a German duplex double pin, a cradle, or whatever. It always sucks. I would rather Takeshita come out and blast both dudes when they were asking to run it back than have the match restart and end like it did.
It's also time to belt up Takeshita.
And the opener was probably one reason why the main event felt a little flat. It wasn’t the same, but the way each were booked felt similar enough to the point where it was just a bad bookend.
It doesn’t help that Danielson is at the point where he just can’t go. He’d be better off doing what he said he was going to do years ago and wrestle like Nagata or MiSu or ZSJ but he’s fully going out on his shield to the point where either Mox vs Danielson is going to be a Vader like squash or it will be like Vader vs Flair and Danielson sneaks out with a victory and then I guess drops the title to Darby.
I suspect that's part of the reason for this- temporarily protect Richochet so they can get to the triple threat, then protect Ospreay by having Take beat Ricochet, who really is JAG at this point in his career.
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On 10/2/2024 at 5:55 PM, Shartnado said:
I started watching All Out 2019 after finishing All Out 2020 (great main event and tag title match there, btw) and there was a Private Party vs Angelico & Jack Evans match on the pre-show that was already completely bonkers! Holy crap what action! How much have Private Party regressed in the last 5 years? Angelico was also way more exciting than he is these days.
All of them except Zay had the injuries pile up over the years. Jack's a good dude, but even he admits he was washed when AEW signed him.
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I wonder if Hangman-Juice is going to lead to the return of Jay. Hangman did take out Jay, and Jay is likely still on Hangman's list. That would be a good distraction feud for Hangman, and I think Jay as a babyface hanging with Hangman in some sort of deathmatch would solidify Jay as a top guy in AEW.
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ALL IN IV - 7/12/2025
in ALL ELITE WRESTLING
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My wife was saying AEW was going all in on political allegories last night, in the best of ways- she loved it. She loves Hangman so much, and she loves Toni and the women in general, but especially Toni.
We both really enjoyed the show, and both of us were so glad good won. I know I've seen several posts on social media lately saying AEW is like the one thing that's giving them hope right now. Reminds me of 2020 and the pandemic- I remember back in 2020, when the combination of the pandemic and my complete mental and physical reshaping has happening, AEW was really what got me through a tough time.
I kinda expected more in-ring from the matches, which was unfair as hell, but that's the standard AEW has set, but the right folks won everything.
I do think AEW has booked themselves into a bit of a corner due to a lack of heels right now. Someone's gonna have to turn in the next month or so. Ricochet will probably be Hangman's first challenge, and DCF will likely challenge some too. Thankfully they're good stories for turns with any of Swerve, Ospreay, Jay, or Omega (who is the EVP now)
There's a reason the Jay/Juice/Toni threesome photo is in our house and is going with us to Ecuador. I really hope one day I can write an Ecuadorian indy lucha thread in there.