HumanChessgame
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The preshow was the typical "get as many people a ppv spot as possible" deal. Nothing was bad but not all that noteworthy either; basically just matches that would have been home on one of the weekly shows.
It was nice seeing Skye Blue get a segment but I'd rather have seen another women's match on the preshow.Garcia/MJF opened hot and was consistently good. Both guys, Garcia especially, looked like they were legitimately struggling with eachother and desperate to win. In a promotion where headdrops and high spots are the norm, they even made a fairly simple piledriver look devastating. MJF even took a step back from his usual cocky heel self to wrestle more viciously than normal, up until going back to his usual underhanded tricks to win.
Tag title match was fine but nothing groundbreaking. They really need to have a fresh team holding the tag titles.
Osprey/Pac was very much the shit.
I'm pretty over every AEW ppv having some homogonized sports entertainment hardcore match, but I have to say this one far exceeded the normal offerings. Both women are great and they really brought the rage along with some innovative spots (I cringed at Stat's thumbtack bump). This was one of the best women's brawls in AEW.
The four way match for whatever random singles title was what it was.
TBS title match had a weird ending to an otherwise average match. The last minute or two of the match were really awkward. It looked like Mercedes was trying to dodge or block the Katana but didn't completely, so she kicked out at one and rolled out? As always, the Moneymaker finisher looked like crap. She's just too small to hit a move like that. I don't know if that was a miscommunication or what but the finishing stretch was awkward at best. People were quick to blame the last match on Brit, but after this I'm not so sure.
Jack Perry's strength is in his bumping and selling and he did an admirable job of that here. This kind of reminded me of the 123 Kid/Bret Hart match on Raw where Waltman came off looking like he could hang with Bret, though not quite as good. I still think Perry peaked as an underdog face. When Moxley showed up at the end I figured his turn was coming but didn't predict Claudio joining him.
With everything Swerve and Page have done to eachother, it's hard to really call either the heel or face, but that didn't matter so much as they just went in looking to kill eachother. Unlike most of the AEW brawls, this didn't come off as a watered down version of an actual deathmatch. I've seen plenty of cinder block bumps in deathmatches, but Page's back hitting the corner of that block was just painful. The powerbomb on it looked almost as bad. It didn't look to be gimmicked either. I figured they'd continue with showing that no matter what Page tried he wouldn't be able to beat Swerve but him winning by KO was a good way to conclude this.
Great show overall with the TBS title match being the only thing that under-delivered. The four way was nothing special but it was perfectly fine as a cooler/filler match. Osprey/Pac was my favorite of the evening.
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Hot damn that Mortos/Takeshita match was good.
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In the main wrestling discussion thread, there's some conversation about people pushed as top guys that you just didn't see and Page would have always been in my list. Since he morphed into Silas Young and went full arsonist (was he in front of a green screen at the end?) I've come around on him. His faux tough guy cowboy promos were never that great but he really captured the person who was pushed too far to the point of becoming deranged and finally realizing he had to one-up his tormentor. Page and Swerve's matches have always been good so this should be no exception.
This card is actually more appealing to me than All In was.
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4 hours ago, RazorbladeKiss87 said:
The fall of Younger is sad to me. His deathmatch work was exceptional within the genre and his non-death stuff was really good as well. I heard people say really nice things about him when they met him.
Different deathmatch guys I know are saying his recent stuff is good but, much like MAGA Butcher, I have little desire to see it and no desire to support it.
I met him at an IWA-EC (promotion Madman Pondo ran briefly) and he couldn't have been a nicer guy. His deathmatch stuff was a lot better than the standard mindless plunder spots, and he proceeded to get in great shape and focus on being a better in-ring worker. From what I heard he got involved in one of those q-anon adjacent churches after going to rehab.
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24 minutes ago, Zimbra said:
Yeah, it was. And to his credit he did kinda look like unmasked Rey if you squinted.
There was a Dave Jericho working the indies around the same time along with a fake Vader.
Wasn't David Jericho Kid Kash's name when he was starting out?
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10 minutes ago, Nice Guy Eddie said:
That's for sure. I was going to say basically the same thing, but decided to scrap it because Jack Perry isn't worth it. It should have been Christian as Danielson's first challenger.
Christian winning the title shot was underwhelming enough, but he's a totally decent heel to have a quick two week program with. Perry is even more underwhelming than him, so I wonder if Christian cashes in mid-match to make this somewhat interesting. I wasn't as high on Danielson/Swerve as everyone else, mainly because the melodrama was built around the retirement stipulation when it was obvious Danielson was winning, but it was a great match in a vaccuum and this is going to be something in the opposite direction
Swerve and Hangman had a segment with some actual omph to it, even though I can't figure out if there's a heel or a face here.
Mariah did a gender swapped Rick Rude promo
Ricochet's match was good and while I've always liked his work I don't think AEW really needs him with everyone else they have, although there will undoubtedly be some good matches to come.
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Hasn't MVP been done as an in-ring competitor for a few years now?
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Drew/Punk and Gunther/Priest were decent matches with stupid endings. Gunther winning was the right choice, and there was really no right person to win Drew/Punk as it was just there to set up a three way.
Is Nia's push another one of Rock's conditions for returning? Because that's the only reason I can think of why she's winning a title.
Rhea got as much out of Liv as she was going to and the turn at the end was pretty predictable.
Sami/Bron was under six minutes?
I'm not that big on Knight, but he definitely needed to win here. Paul showing his ass on social media is probably getting him off the air for a while, if not for good
Like other said, the main event was a redo of the WM main with less bells and whistles. Hopefully Jacob didn't get hurt too badly right when he's picking up some traction.
The padding of bullshit between matches due to Peacock's commercials or what the fuck ever was especially egregious here. According to the times on wikipedia there was roughly 106 minutes of wrestling on a four hour card. The tag title matches from Smackdown easily could have been slotted in here. Summerslam is the third or fourth biggest PPV of the year and there were only seven matches.
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59 minutes ago, JLowe said:
Team No McMahons in AEW here.
Of all the things TK could piss money away on, Shane is among the worst.
10 hours ago, evidence said:They need to come up with something new. "Sure! Sure! Sure!"
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As far as re-running angles goes, wrestling is just like any other form of media where there are plenty of tropes that are always being recycled. Just look at AEW with the heel authority figures/owners. You've also got tag partners turning on eachother, faces who turn when they say the fans don't appreciate them, heels who have a change of heart when it comes to an old friend of theirs, etc. Variations of angles get re-run on a regular basis but it's in the subtleties and follow-throughs that keep them from being tired retreads.
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My friends and I would always refer to jobbers as "wimps" when we were pre-teen marks. I can't tell if Dustin's tweet was meant to be tongue in cheek or not.
The Bret/Douglas talk makes me wish Bret had a cup of coffee in ECW post-Montreal and worked a program with Douglas. My timeline is fuzzy here but I think that would have been early 1998?
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When I was first able to watch ECW on tv, Douglas was beginning his program with The Pitbulls and his promos and over the top heel attitude really made teenage me buy into ECW as an overall product. I remember liking some of his matches, but am sure few of them have aged all that well. The Bigelow match where he regained the world title is highly regarded, but I probably haven't watched it in 20 years. Wasn't he working as a manager at a Target at one point? I respect him for staying alive and relatively healthy while so many of his peers haven't been able to say the same.
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4 hours ago, Kevin Wilson said:
Where are all my IT brothers so we can lie in a fetal position together after the day we had
If it's been a busy day, there will be max 50-60 tickets in the queue when I start my Friday night shift. There were just under 400 in there tonight. At least the phone calls are slowing down so I can whittle away at this...
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Was anyone else expecting Jarrett to turn the whole match? When he revealed the ref shirt I was expecting him to el kabong Danielson with a guitar then give a fast count or something.
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4 hours ago, Cliff Hanger said:
Team Roman vs Team Solo is the obvious choice for men's War Games and it'll be goofy as hell if they just trot Roman out at Bad Blood or later
Is there a date announced for War Games? I'd think kickstarting this feud at Summerslam would be the perfect way to set up a Survivor Series match against the two factions. If Wargames is after that, then the heels could get the first win via some shenanigans to set up Wargames.
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"Smuggler's Blues" and "You Belong to the City" are bangers and I won't hear otherwise.
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Good show overall. After a period of being stagnant and directionless, AEW is starting to pick up steam once again.
If Page is on team AEW, I imagine him either turning or walking out a la Samoa Joe in the ROH/CZW cage match in 2006.
Maybe it's just me but I always thought Mercedes was clearly a heel from the get-go.
Part of me thinks they should have milked MJF going full heel for another week or two, but after re-watching it I think it was the right choice, especially if he gives the explanation someone mentioned about how whenever he tried to help someone, they ignored him.
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Here's some random thing I thought of recently-
Jim Cornette's constant shit talking of AEW is a work that Tony Khan put him up to. I came up with this as Corny has mentioned a few times how Tony called him when he was first putting AEW together for advice but Cornette had no interest in working there as he doesn't need the money and has no inclination to travel or work in wrestling full time again. He's also made a few passing references to an NDA Tony later made him sign. Cornette is one of those people who doesn't know how to not be in character and him hating most modern wrestling isn't too far of a stretch, but the theory is that Tony knew him bashing AEW every week was free publicity. Even if it leads to hate watching or people talking shit online, there's no publicity and online engagement or trending is bad attention.
*Just to clarify, in the original spirit of the thread I don't intend for this to be serious either
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You can have an over the top video game action movie style match where both guys hit their stuff more or less crisply and have lots of fun looking sequences. It's not for everyone but there's a difference between what Osprey and Swerve did and your average indy jabronis trying to recreate something they did with their action figures. I thought the match was pretty good, but there were a few too many sequences that looked too cooperative, namely the Swerve Stomp/springboard cutter counter and that stomp to the outside where Osprey jumped back before contact was even made.
Work was fairly busy tonight so I was distracted with a good portion of the show, but what I saw was decent at worse. Even though this was just as long as the average AEW ppv it seemed to fly by with no too long faux-epic slogs to get through and not nearly as much fat to cut through.
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Trailer for Robert Eggers' Nosferatu remake-
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People have speculated Ricochet as the wildcard in the men's Owen tournament, but I'd rather see Trevor Lee pop up as a surprise debut.
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So the upcoming Toni/Mina match is going to be a Mariah May on a pole match?
Good stuff overall. AEW's booking has been iffy at best for a while now, but it was tightened up tonight.
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I've been shitting on Jericho for a while, but I got a guffaw out of his bit tonight. If it helps get Big Bill and Brian Keith a push I'll be ok with it.
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ALL OUT VI - 9/7/2024
in ALL ELITE WRESTLING
Posted · Edited by HumanChessgame
I don't get the pearl clutching over the main event either, but having watched far worse deathmatch stuff both when trying to view a blurry Big Japan .mov clips on dialup or watching IWA-MS later on this wasn't that bad. That said it had the right level of violence and intensity for a big name show. And yeah, it's too bad it took some of the focus from Stat/Willow because that was probably top 5 or 10 in AEW women's matches for me.